2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II

bboyskinnylegs · Post #101 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:50 pm

don't know if this deserved another thread or not, but here's Heisley's stance on trading Rudy Gay:

"Would you please make it clear that we're not trading Rudy Gay?" explained Heisley.

Calkins said he explained the rampant rumors to Heisley who said pretty clearly that trading Rudy Gay was the furthest from the truth.

"It (ticks) me off. I think it's cruel to the guy," explained Heisley. "He died during this period. That's how much he wanted to play. And to now have to hear that we're trading him? There's nothing more untrue than that."

"Let me tell you something," said Heisley. "No disrespect to Oklahoma City, but if we had had Rudy Gay, we would have won the bleepity-bleep series going away. I really believe that."

"Rudy is one of our best players and a big part of what we plan to do in the future," Heisley said.

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bboyskinnylegs · Post #102 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:04 pm

Also, on Marc Gasol:

As for retaining free agent Marc Gasol who may be eligible for restricted free agency if it exists in the next Collective Bargaining Agreement. Heisley says it's about more than just paying Gasol, something he says he's open to doing. Heisley says it's about Gasol wanting to be in Memphis.

"I'm not going to sit and pay a contract which everyone says is ridiculous," said Heisley. "But my intention is to bring Marc back. If he wants to be here, he will find I will be very, very receptive."

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Maybe Jose can persuade him to take his talents up north

rapswin2010 · Post #103 » by **rapswin2010** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:02 pm

If we land the #1 would u deal it for jrue holiday if it was offered. I do it in a heartbeat. Holiday is amazing

bboyskinnylegs · Post #104 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:10 pm

rapswin2010 wrote:If we land the #1 would u deal it for jrue holiday if it was offered. I do it in a heartbeat. Holiday is amazing

Not thanks, I'd prefer Kyrie, Williams, and Kanter (perhaps a few other players as well, depending on how the combine/workouts go) over Holiday.

number15 · Post #105 » by **number15** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:39 pm

Raptors trade:

- Demar Derozan
- Ed Davis
- future1st rounder (2012)
- + $25 million cash, under the table [wink]-[wink] shhhhhh :wink:

Boston Trades:

- Ray Allen
- future 2nd rounder (2012)
- Jermain O'neil (resigned at 15 million 1 year deal)

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bboyskinnylegs · Post #106 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:41 pm

number15 wrote:Raptors trade:

- Demar Derozan
- Ed Davis
- future1st rounder (2012)
- + $99.67 million cash under the table

Boston Trades:

- Ray Allen
- future 2nd rounder (2012)
- Jermain O'neil (resigned at 15 million 1 year deal)

yeah I can see BC aiming for another playoff run and exec of the year after re-upping... but you're being a little ridiculous. We'd just send the maximum allowed $3 million in cash, and JO would probably have a player option for the following year.

Silk Wilkes · Post #107 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:54 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:
number15 wrote:Raptors trade:

- Demar Derozan
- Ed Davis
- future1st rounder (2012)
- + $99.67 million cash under the table

Boston Trades:

- Ray Allen
- future 2nd rounder (2012)
- Jermain O'neil (resigned at 15 million 1 year deal)

yeah I can see BC aiming for another playoff run and exec of the year after re-upping... but you're being a little ridiculous. We'd just send the maximum allowed $3 million in cash, and JO would probably have a player option for the following year.

He was serious?

RocLaFamilia · Post #108 » by **RocLaFamilia** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:23 pm

Youngblood wrote:
RocLaFamilia wrote:assumption: our pick is 6th

TOR gets: Thabeet, Lowry and Budinger + 2011 1st round draft pick (likely 15)
HOU gets: Jose and Alabi + 2011 1st round and 2 round draft picks

What's your reasoning because I can't find a reason why Houston gives up Lowry to move up 9 spots.

Maybe they really really like someone at that spot :roll:

LOL I really really want Lowry on this team, he is the PG we need. Looking back, that is a sloppy trade...

KrazyP · Post #109 » by **KrazyP** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:25 pm

pspot wrote:Bargs and Kleiza for Gay and Henry

Gives Mem a big man rotation of Gasol, Randolph and Bargs
Kleiza fits into their tough / hardworking mold ala Allen, Powe, Arthur, Young

Gay was a huge part of that team but with them making such a run without him maybe they would be open to moving him especially with that price tag.

luenell is probably right though and Mayo will probably be the odd man out

This doesn't save the Griz money and they lose the best player in the trade. I could maybe see Bargs + cap relief for Gay. The cap relief would save the Griz money to keep Mayo around so the trade for them would boil down Bargs + Mayo for Gay which might not be bad for them. That said, couldn't they get more cap relief and possibly a better player than Bargs elsewhere? i.e. here are some other options I could see for the Griz.

--> Denver - re-signed Wilson Chandler for Gay. Would save the Griz $7-8mill/yr and give them a nice option at the SF spot.
--> Golden State - Ellis for Gay? Saves the Griz $5mill/yr and gives them an explosive SG scorer. They could then flip Mayo for a SF.
--> Sacremento - Gay for cheap depth (Thompson + Casspi + 1st pick). Saves them tonnes of $$$ and gives them some solid young roleplayers.

Deuces · Post #110 » by **Deuces** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:02 am

#5 for #2.

MINNESOTA TRADES: #2 Pick ( Derrick Williams) , Flynn
TORONTO TRADES: #5 Pick (Kanter), Jose.

Walid · Post #111 » by **Walid** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:07 am

Deuces wrote:#5 for #2.

MINNESOTA TRADES: #2 Pick ( Derrick Williams) , Flynn
TORONTO TRADES: #5 Pick (Kanter), Jose.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #112 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:15 am

Deuces wrote:#5 for #2.

MINNESOTA TRADES: #2 Pick ( Derrick Williams) , Flynn
TORONTO TRADES: #5 Pick (Kanter), Jose.

I think they like Biyombo more... if they wanted Kanter they wouldn't trade with us imo, I don't see both the Jazz and Cavs passing on him.

dballislife · Post #113 » by **dballislife** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:17 am

id trade ed + bayless + 5th + 2 1st for number one...lol would cavs bite?

Deuces · Post #114 » by **Deuces** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:20 am

dballislife wrote:id trade ed + bayless + 5th + 2 1st for number one...lol would cavs bite?

im not THAT a believer of Kyrie to give up a future JO.

HighOctane · Post #115 » by **HighOctane** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:22 am

Stephen Curry, Monta Ellis, Kyle Lowry, Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight. Which one would you put at the helm of our offence?

dballislife · Post #116 » by **dballislife** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:25 am

Deuces wrote:
dballislife wrote:id trade ed + bayless + 5th + 2 1st for number one...lol would cavs bite?

im not THAT a believer of Kyrie to give up a future JO.

id give up a potential JO for a potential cp3 anyday...mayb keep our 5th and grab bismack

irving
demar
jj
bargs
bismack

i approve

arbsn · Post #117 » by **arbsn** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:28 am

Do we want Michael Beasley?

I know we turned him down in the Bosh sign-and-trade, but he's much better than James Johnson and only has 2 more guaranteed years on his contract @ 5m/season

Maybe we can do

Minnesota trade: Beasley

Toronto trades: Future 1st round pick (protected) + Linas Kleiza/Trade Exception

Rapsfan4life · Post #118 » by **Rapsfan4life** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:29 am

#2 pick (derrick williams), luke ridnour (bad contract) and johnny flynn for #5 pick (Bismack Biyombo ) and jerryd bayless... lets get er done

flatjacket1 · Post #119 » by **flatjacket1** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:40 am

dballislife wrote:id trade ed + bayless + 5th + 2 1st for number one...lol would cavs bite?

This.

jalenrose#5 · Post #120 » by **jalenrose#5** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:37 am

Toronto Trades

Jose Calderon
Leandro Barbosa
Fifth Selection 2011 Draft

Phoenix Trades

Steve Nash
Josh Childress
13th Selection 2011 Draft

Why for the Suns?

They get some adequate backcourt help that is still relatively younger than Nash and the 5th overall selection. With the fifth overall selection, look for the Suns to take someone like Enes Kanter or Brandon Knight depending on how the draft will play out.

Calderon/5th pick (Walker, Knight)
Pietrus/Barbosa
Dudley/Warrick
Frye/FA/Lawal
Gortat/Lopez

FA: Brooks, Hill, and VC

Why for Raptors?

They get a perfect master for Bayless to learn from. Here Nash also gets to ride out the rest of his career in Toronto and serve as a mentor for the upcoming Bayless. Also, the Raptors get some more size and defence at the wing position in Childress, who in a pinch can play SF as well. The Raptors trade out of the top 10 and select Canadian Tristan Thompson 13th overall.

Nash/Bayless
DeRozan/Childress
FA/J.Johnson
Davis/Thompson
Bargnani/A.Johnson

FA: Evans, Wright, Weems and Dorsey

Here the Raptors can add that necessary piece or two via free agency. Having Steve Nash as your PG will only help bring in that talent via Free agency.

Thoughts?