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Re: Trade Dwight with this deal? 

Post#581 » by Mr Loggins » Tue May 17, 2011 3:32 pm

initiald wrote:If Dwight Howard isn't resign and Orlando FO is forced to trade him.

We can snap him under these offers that beat out most offer out there.

Ship Pau + Luke to Minnesota for top 5 draft pick, Darko, Anthony Randolph.

Then trade Bynum + Minn top 5 draft pick + Anthony Randolph for Dwight Howard + Bass.

Blake/Fisher
Kobe/Brown
Artest/Barnes
LO/Bass
Dwight/Darko

Personally, I think Dr. Buss is okay with it. We get risk of Luke meanwhile getting a cornerstone franchise player for the future. LO is a legit 3rd option. Defense is great and offense is fine with Dwight and Kobe. More offensive load for Artest and LO, which might be the best thing in disguise.



How are you going to get Kahhhhhnnn to accept that trade?

The last thing Minnesota needs is a 31 year old-making max money-BACKUP-power forward. Because you know their not going to bench Kevin Love.

no soup for you!
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Re: Trade Dwight with this deal? 

Post#582 » by Jetset » Tue May 17, 2011 4:22 pm

BosBorgon wrote:
initiald wrote:If Dwight Howard isn't resign and Orlando FO is forced to trade him.

We can snap him under these offers that beat out most offer out there.

Ship Pau + Luke to Minnesota for top 5 draft pick, Darko, Anthony Randolph.

Then trade Bynum + Minn top 5 draft pick + Anthony Randolph for Dwight Howard + Bass.

Blake/Fisher
Kobe/Brown
Artest/Barnes
LO/Bass
Dwight/Darko

Personally, I think Dr. Buss is okay with it. We get risk of Luke meanwhile getting a cornerstone franchise player for the future. LO is a legit 3rd option. Defense is great and offense is fine with Dwight and Kobe. More offensive load for Artest and LO, which might be the best thing in disguise.



How are you going to get Kahhhhhnnn to accept that trade?

The last thing Minnesota needs is a 31 year old-making max money-BACKUP-power forward. Because you know their not going to bench Kevin Love.

no soup for you!


My thoughts exactly.




Besides, the only way to get their pick is if we give them Bynum.



And yes, no soup for you.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#583 » by The Skyhook » Tue May 17, 2011 4:38 pm

LApwnd wrote:^^^^read carefully, I said playoff series....just WOW Pau that garbage that Lou Williams is the center piece of trade ideas for Pau now?, so like I asked, who plays C when our "franchise" takes his annual mid-season or the occasional season-ending vacation? :lol:, and wtf has Bynum done over these last 4yrs in the PLAYOFF to warrant him being our franchise? Had some nice gms against NOH and their midget front court, or 1-2 good game against Dall? please!

Where in the world are you getting that Lou Williams is the centerpiece of any of those trades? Nobody in their right mind would be trading Andrew Bynum or Pau Gasol for just Lou Williams. Obviously Iguodala is the bigger picture in that trade but it also gets you Williams.
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Re: Trade Dwight with this deal? 

Post#584 » by Penberthy » Tue May 17, 2011 4:44 pm

BosBorgon wrote:
initiald wrote:If Dwight Howard isn't resign and Orlando FO is forced to trade him.

We can snap him under these offers that beat out most offer out there.

Ship Pau + Luke to Minnesota for top 5 draft pick, Darko, Anthony Randolph.

Then trade Bynum + Minn top 5 draft pick + Anthony Randolph for Dwight Howard + Bass.

Blake/Fisher
Kobe/Brown
Artest/Barnes
LO/Bass
Dwight/Darko

Personally, I think Dr. Buss is okay with it. We get risk of Luke meanwhile getting a cornerstone franchise player for the future. LO is a legit 3rd option. Defense is great and offense is fine with Dwight and Kobe. More offensive load for Artest and LO, which might be the best thing in disguise.



How are you going to get Kahhhhhnnn to accept that trade?

The last thing Minnesota needs is a 31 year old-making max money-BACKUP-power forward. Because you know their not going to bench Kevin Love.

no soup for you!


I think they would find the best passing big man in the game, who has primarily played center in the past 4 regular seasons (3 Finals appearances, 1 single-handed shut-out of dwight) a slight upgrade to their starting Center position over DARKO MILICIC, in Kurt Rambis' quasi-wannabe-triangle.

I think they would be OK with a 20-15 guy at pf and a 20-10 guy at C, considering they are the #1 and #2 passing big men in the league, and they would both prefer to pass.

What else is Kahn going to do with the pick? Draft another PG?
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#585 » by LApwnd » Tue May 17, 2011 4:44 pm

^^^the guy I was responding too seems to think Williams is some sort missing piece to this team. With that Phil deal, who do you get back as backup C? Please dont say Brand, with him and Bynum on this team, its only a matter of time before we end up having to play Odom at C when both go down with some sort of season ending injuries. If not Brand, then Hawes? The 7 foot wannabe Dirk who likes to chuck 3's instead of banging inside or the dumb **** Speights?
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#586 » by chefy » Tue May 17, 2011 5:13 pm

sign Przybilla/Dalembert/Martin/Foster...etc


But IMO Hawes wouldn't be that bad as your 2nd center.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#587 » by The Skyhook » Tue May 17, 2011 5:48 pm

I think even if the front office was presented with similar deals involving one of the Lakers bigs its hard to imagine one of the bigs being traded. The trio of Laker bigs is rare and you really don't see that every year. I believe the current core can still compete for a championship but some minor changes have to be made to the rest of the team. I don't feel confident with Derek Fisher or Steve Blake as the Lakers starting point guard. While he brings the Lakers athleticism Shannon Brown just isn't what the Lakers need. However if there is no MLE this year or Dr. Buss isn't willing to spend then the Lakers may just be forced into trading one of the core guys to compete.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#588 » by Jetset » Tue May 17, 2011 5:58 pm

^ How do you know there's no MLE?
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#589 » by The Skyhook » Tue May 17, 2011 6:03 pm

I don't but I'm saying if that were the case after the new CBA is put into place. As of now the CBA negotiations aren't looking too good. Owners were talking about a $45 million dollar hard cap. Now I doubt that if there is a hard cap that it will be $45 million but a possible hard cap could mean no MLE.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#590 » by Jajwanda » Tue May 17, 2011 6:04 pm

Having a TPE will help then. 8-)
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#591 » by Jetset » Tue May 17, 2011 6:08 pm

If the #1 overall pick is available by trading one our bigs, it at least has to be entertained. Minnesota would be the easiest places to deal with seeing as Rubio is coming over this summer, so the pick is basically useless to them. Mitch should at least call and see what the asking price is.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#592 » by LApwnd » Tue May 17, 2011 6:41 pm

Jetset wrote:If the #1 overall pick is available by trading one our bigs, it at least has to be entertained. Minnesota would be the easiest places to deal with seeing as Rubio is coming over this summer, so the pick is basically useless to them. Mitch should at least call and see what the asking price is.


good idea but I think Minn is to cheap to take on any of our big contracts, Pau to old to expensive, Bynum expensive and injury prone....there no on that team that makes over $5mill/yr, I think that trend is going to continue until they DRAFT that franchise guy, I think they rather trade Rubio and get proven talent then trade their upcoming pick if its #1.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#593 » by Jetset » Tue May 17, 2011 7:17 pm

LApwnd wrote:
Jetset wrote:If the #1 overall pick is available by trading one our bigs, it at least has to be entertained. Minnesota would be the easiest places to deal with seeing as Rubio is coming over this summer, so the pick is basically useless to them. Mitch should at least call and see what the asking price is.


good idea but I think Minn is to cheap to take on any of our big contracts, Pau to old to expensive, Bynum expensive and injury prone....there no on that team that makes over $5mill/yr, I think that trend is going to continue until they DRAFT that franchise guy, I think they rather trade Rubio and get proven talent then trade their upcoming pick if its #1.


I'm not sure if this is how Minnesota management feels towards Gasol, but there are some who still view him as a hot commodity. There will be teams that are willing to overlook his piss poor performance this season and give him a chance. A Love/Gasol front court would be killer and easily be the best passing front court in the league. I wouldn't say that we're locked with Gasol because he can certainly be moved. It just might require us giving out a little more than we all expect if we're trying to get a lotto pick, but it could be done.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#594 » by Penberthy » Tue May 17, 2011 8:55 pm

Jetset wrote: A Love/Gasol front court would be killer and easily be the best passing front court in the league... but it could be done.


Dude on the last page you were tearing up the guy who proposed the minn trade because you thought Pau was just a back-up PF and, "Besides, the only way to get their pick is if we give them Bynum."

Now one page later you bite my entire counter argument? At least give me a citation bro.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#595 » by Jetset » Tue May 17, 2011 9:03 pm

Penberthy wrote:
Jetset wrote: A Love/Gasol front court would be killer and easily be the best passing front court in the league... but it could be done.


Dude on the last page you were tearing up the guy who proposed the minn trade because you thought Pau was just a back-up PF and, "Besides, the only way to get their pick is if we give them Bynum."

Now one page later you bite my entire counter argument? At least give me a citation bro.


First off, I didn't see your post I try to avoid them tbh. Secondly, no one is thinking about you.

I wouldn't say I was "tearing" the guy at all, all I said was hinting at is Pau/Walton isn't going to get it done for a lotto pick. A tearing is what I did to you in that one topic, this situation is none the same. And I still think we'll have to give up Bynum to get the lotto pick, just making the case since that guy said Gasol has negative value. Get over yourself.
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Re: Trade Dwight with this deal? 

Post#596 » by Mr Loggins » Tue May 17, 2011 9:21 pm

Penberthy wrote:
I think they would find the best passing big man in the game, who has primarily played center in the past 4 regular seasons (3 Finals appearances, 1 single-handed shut-out of dwight) a slight upgrade to their starting Center position over DARKO MILICIC, in Kurt Rambis' quasi-wannabe-triangle.

I think they would be OK with a 20-15 guy at pf and a 20-10 guy at C, considering they are the #1 and #2 passing big men in the league, and they would both prefer to pass.

What else is Kahn going to do with the pick? Draft another PG?


a) no one's is arguing that Pau isn't better than Darko. But the last thing MN needs is another PF (albeit one who can get some minutes at center) -- especially one who is 31 years old. His age and salary are the big reasons they don't do that deal. WIth Pau their what? A 35-40 win team?

b) not to split hairs too much, but I don't think Pau has ever been a 20-10 guy, so I don't think he'll start doing that now that he's the rong side of 30.
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Re: Trade Dwight with this deal? 

Post#597 » by Penberthy » Tue May 17, 2011 9:33 pm

BosBorgon wrote:
Penberthy wrote:
I think they would find the best passing big man in the game, who has primarily played center in the past 4 regular seasons (3 Finals appearances, 1 single-handed shut-out of dwight) a slight upgrade to their starting Center position over DARKO MILICIC, in Kurt Rambis' quasi-wannabe-triangle.

I think they would be OK with a 20-15 guy at pf and a 20-10 guy at C, considering they are the #1 and #2 passing big men in the league, and they would both prefer to pass.

What else is Kahn going to do with the pick? Draft another PG?


a) no one's is arguing that Pau isn't better than Darko. But the last thing MN needs is another PF (albeit one who can get some minutes at center) -- especially one who is 31 years old. His age and salary are the big reasons they don't do that deal. WIth Pau their what? A 35-40 win team?

b) not to split hairs too much, but I don't think Pau has ever been a 20-10 guy, so I don't think he'll start doing that now that he's the rong side of 30.


Although its not his natural position, Pau is nevertheless a top 5 Center in the NBA, please name me 5 better. And he was 18.8 and 10.2 this year, my mistake, great point though, how stupid of me to make that egregious error. What a worthless pile.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#598 » by Penberthy » Tue May 17, 2011 10:30 pm

Jetset wrote:
Penberthy wrote:
Jetset wrote: A Love/Gasol front court would be killer and easily be the best passing front court in the league... but it could be done.


Dude on the last page you were tearing up the guy who proposed the minn trade because you thought Pau was just a back-up PF and, "Besides, the only way to get their pick is if we give them Bynum."

Now one page later you bite my entire counter argument? At least give me a citation bro.


First off, I didn't see your post I try to avoid them tbh. Secondly, no one is thinking about you.

I wouldn't say I was "tearing" the guy at all, all I said was hinting at is Pau/Walton isn't going to get it done for a lotto pick. A tearing is what I did to you in that one topic, this situation is none the same. And I still think we'll have to give up Bynum to get the lotto pick, just making the case since that guy said Gasol has negative value. Get over yourself.


Congrats on adding another thousand posts since last week. Not obsessive in the least. I see how you get there now, just argue both sides of every issue (first gasol is nothing but a back up pf and Minny would never trade for him, then, a few posts later, Gasol and Love would be the best passing front court ever).

Feel free to regurgitate any of my other arguments. I give you permission.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#599 » by LAzPhenom » Tue May 17, 2011 10:33 pm

LApwnd wrote:^^^the guy I was responding too seems to think Williams is some sort missing piece to this team. With that Phil deal, who do you get back as backup C? Please dont say Brand, with him and Bynum on this team, its only a matter of time before we end up having to play Odom at C when both go down with some sort of season ending injuries. If not Brand, then Hawes? The 7 foot wannabe Dirk who likes to chuck 3's instead of banging inside or the dumb **** Speights?


i never said Williams is the missing piece, im saying that it would fix one of our problems. I am also 100 percent sure that in my posts i stated that i want another talented big man on our team in a three team trade involving Lou Williams and Gasol like Josh Smith
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#600 » by Jetset » Tue May 17, 2011 10:46 pm

Penberthy wrote:Congrats on adding another thousand posts since last week. Not obsessive in the least. I see how you get there now, just argue both sides of every issue (first gasol is nothing but a back up pf and Minny would never trade for him, then, a few posts later, Gasol and Love would be the best passing front court ever).

Feel free to regurgitate any of my other arguments. I give you permission.


Congrats on taking an hour and 30 mins to come up with something worthwhile to say. I'm sure you clearly saw my post earlier, but it taking your little brain this long to formulate a response is amusing to say the least.

Just stop. Your responses always leave you looking like an idiot, and you are becoming very redundant with your posts filled with nothingness. I'm not sure what it is with you, you seem to be stalking me for some reason. You need to get off my jock and pick up a hobby and quick. And I'm well capable of forming my own intelligent arguments, but if I ever wanted to come off as having the IQ and personality of a bitter tree stump I'll be sure to keep your little suggestion in mind. Thanks.

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