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Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39)

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Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#1 » by fatlever » Wed May 18, 2011 3:23 pm

this thread is to replace the year long "draft prospects" thread. please use this thread for general discussion about our pick possibilities, mock drafts, prospects and other general draft talk.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#2 » by fatlever » Wed May 18, 2011 3:48 pm

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Pos ... tions-3706

#9- Charlotte Bobcats

Will Consider: Donatas Motiejunas, Marcus Morris, Kawhi Leonard, Alec Burks

Trying to plug holes over the last few years by putting on band aids on gaping wounds, the Bobcats are in one of the least desirable positions of any team in the NBA considering their roster makeup and cap situation. The team has few assets, many needs and looks far away from competing for anything more than a first round playoff exit in the absolute best case scenario.

The #9 pick therefore isn't going to change the franchise's fortunes in a single night, but there will be an opportunity to add a player who can hopefully develop into a building block moving forward.

Power forward looks like a good place to start, and the team should be able to provide Donatas Motiejunas the minutes and touches needed to develop into an asset down the road. His skill-level and overall polish will allow him to put up major numbers right off the bat, and should ease the scoring load on Stephen Jackson and D.J. Augustin playing both the 4 and the 5 spots.

Small forward is another spot where the team has a major hole, which could very well make Kawhi Leonard an attractive option. He's no Gerald Wallace, at least not immediately, but his rebounding, toughness and work ethic could be useful even if his offensive limitations are not ideal considering Charlotte's struggles in that area last season.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Pos ... z1MifmrbTc
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#3 » by fatlever » Wed May 18, 2011 3:51 pm

GiveMeTheRock Nels @ GiveMeTheRock
According to @dv140, the ROY was selected in the Top 9 picks every year for the last 20, including 9 times #1 overall http://goo.gl/Rigjf


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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#4 » by doc.end » Wed May 18, 2011 4:52 pm

ROY is overrated.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#5 » by fatlever » Wed May 18, 2011 5:02 pm

doug gottlieb had tristan thompson at #5 on his rankings. what are our thoughts on him? defensive big man, good rebounder, raw offensively, big wingspan. seems to be in play for #9

what about kenneth faried for the #19 pick? we have been missing a nasty rebounder off the bench for a long time. bilas listed him as one of his sleepers (guys outside of top 5 who could really make an impact).
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#6 » by doc.end » Wed May 18, 2011 5:08 pm

I like Faried but I can't compare him to other options at 19 as I don't really know some of these players. I wouldn't be upset if we draft him though. Would like to know his measurements, can he play some C (if Diaw could...)?
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#7 » by BigSlam » Wed May 18, 2011 5:14 pm

fatlever wrote:doug gottlieb had tristan thompson at #5 on his rankings. what are our thoughts on him? defensive big man, good rebounder, raw offensively, big wingspan. seems to be in play for #9

He's Tyrus Thomas with even less offense. At least T2 has a jump shot.

what about kenneth faried for the #19 pick? we have been missing a nasty rebounder off the bench for a long time. bilas listed him as one of his sleepers (guys outside of top 5 who could really make an impact

I like Faried, but we could sign Reggie Evans this off season and get the same sort of thing.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#8 » by ohara » Wed May 18, 2011 6:05 pm

My current predictions:
#9: Burks
#19: Reggie Jackson
#39: Jordan Williams

All 3 would be very good value at the spot being picked. My concern is that each one could actually go a few spots higher and be off the table when we pick each time.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#9 » by BigSlam » Wed May 18, 2011 6:15 pm

I really hope we are talking to the Jazz, the Cavs and the Rapss to see if we can move up into the 3, 4 or 5 spot by offering #9 and #19 to them.

I assume something like that wouldn't happen until after the workouts though once they have had a chance to check the players out in person and decided there was in fact someone worth moving up for.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#10 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed May 18, 2011 6:15 pm

I just hope that they won't take Jimmer with the #9 pick. Please, somebody assure me that it won't happen. I'm a huge disbeliever in picking white guys, who had good college careers/stats.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#11 » by hotrod » Wed May 18, 2011 6:44 pm

basketballtalk Kurt Helin
Report: Timberwolves willing to trade No. 2 pick http://dlvr.it/S8qW6 #PBT #NBA


Would we consider trading up? Who would Minny want from us?
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#12 » by BigSlam » Wed May 18, 2011 6:52 pm

hotrod wrote:basketballtalk Kurt Helin
Report: Timberwolves willing to trade No. 2 pick http://dlvr.it/S8qW6 #PBT #NBA


Would we consider trading up? Who would Minny want from us?

If the Cavs are smart they would trade down one spot.

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#2 and #20 (or a future 1st?)

That way the Wolves would get Rubio and the Cavs would get Williams - who I think is a better fit for them away way - while getting a little gravy (the 20th pick) as well).

That would mean the Cavs woudl have picks:

#2, #4, #20, #32

Which could be something like:

Derek Williams, Kemba Walker/Brandon Knight, Klay Thompson/Marshon Brooks, JaJuan Johnson/Trey Thompkins

Not a bad way to start the rebuild.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#13 » by ohara » Wed May 18, 2011 7:14 pm

We'd have to add a player to #9 and #19 to get up to #2. They really dont need anyone we would consider expendable. Would they want Diaw or Jax, considering Kahn wants some veteran help? Not sure either gets much PT with the current Wolves roster. I think #9 and #19 get us no higher than #5. And unless Kanter is there, I dont make the trade. I just select at #9, and consider adding #19 and #39 and try to move up a few slots to get Jordan Hamilton if he is still there around #15/#16.

No matter how it pans out, we should get 2 players who can fit right into the rotation and get some good minutes and help us. Silas is not afraid to let the youngsters play and learn. Not like that idiot we had before who wouldn't trust a Rookie not to pi$$ all over his shoes, much less give him time in the game.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#14 » by Marvel » Wed May 18, 2011 9:08 pm

#9 Bismack, Kawhi - if they're there.
#19 Reggie Jackson, Justin Harper - if they're there.
#32 Malcolm Lee - if he's there.

Faried is Reggie Evans v2.0, with little to no offensive upside, i really don't see a need to get him, unless we trade TT.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#15 » by SWedd523 » Wed May 18, 2011 9:34 pm

Chad Ford's mock has Biyombo, Burks, and Singleton in play at 9 and Klay, Hamilton, and Williams in play at 19. Which combination would you be most happy with?


I think Burks and either Hamilton or Williams would be best. I don't trust Bismack "where'd he come from" Biyombo enough to gamble right now. We can't afford to drop the ball on yet another lottery pick.

Hendo, Burks, and Hamilton can form one hell of a young, talented wing trio that has a ton of of potential and can make all sorts of lineup combos.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#16 » by Marvel » Wed May 18, 2011 9:52 pm

One guy to really look out for, Justin Harper. He's definitely in play at 19, in my books.

If Bismack, Kawhi and Kanter are gone by 9. I'd go with Jackson at 9 and Harper at 19.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#17 » by ohara » Wed May 18, 2011 10:18 pm

Swedd, I'd go with Burks at #9 and then Hamilton at #19. Very nice additions to this roster.

Marvel, are you saying go with Reggie Jackson at #9? He will be available post lottery. I can see adding #19 and #39 to move up to get him in the #15/#16 range if we really want him, but he would be a real stretch to take at #9.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#18 » by Marvel » Wed May 18, 2011 10:44 pm

^Depends who's there and whose stock rises of falls during/after workouts. Once the smoke clears a little bit, we'll have a clearer piture of what the other teams have in mind and who they're looking at.

If anything, i think Jackson could be an upgrade over DJ in the future and would make him expendable in a trade. Considering BPA from 9-19 and the lack of talent in this class already, i don't think Jackson would be a stretch at 9 and if his stock rises after workouts, he'd be worthy. Same for Harper.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#19 » by BigSlam » Thu May 19, 2011 1:11 am

SWEDD523 wrote:Chad Ford's mock has Biyombo, Burks, and Singleton in play at 9 and Klay, Hamilton, and Williams in play at 19. Which combination would you be most happy with?

Burks and Williams for me.
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Re: Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39) 

Post#20 » by BigSlam » Thu May 19, 2011 1:13 am

Marvel wrote:One guy to really look out for, Justin Harper. He's definitely in play at 19, in my books.

Why? Don't we already have enough jump shooting big men on our roster?

If anything your Celtics should target him @ #25.
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