Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 8

ItsDanger · Post #921 » by **ItsDanger** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:34 pm

Kanter's stock will drop a LOT with that news. I dont want him anyways.

IntricateOh25 · Post #922 » by **IntricateOh25** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:34 pm

Take Kanter at 5 and run.

Strategist1 · Post #923 » by **Strategist1** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:37 pm

CalderonFan wrote:DE strongly indicating that Enes Kanter is going to slide by refusing to work out competitively:

8th is likely the furthest Kanter would slide, due to a combination of not playing competitively the past two years and not working out for anyone outside of one-on-zeros

Kanter is scaring off already-skeptical teams with his unwillingness to work out competitively for any team.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Pos ... z1MiqQF9Sa
http://www.draftexpress.com

Did anyone know about this? that's a huge red flag

Wow...if he refuses to work out for any team besides 1 on 0's, I definitely do not want this guy. BC needs to make the most educated decision. Without seeing him against competition makes him more of a mystery.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #924 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:40 pm

I can't see BC taking him without seeing him in action competitively.

Post #925 » by **darth_federer** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:41 pm

Biyombo and Kanter are refusing to work out. So we re going to have to rely on Maurizio to help us out. That pick will most likely be an international player.

nowayguy · Post #926 » by **nowayguy** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:42 pm

Biyombo is working out in the European combine, I thought.

ty123 · Post #927 » by **ty123** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:47 pm

Trade the pick for minnoesoetas pick next year or something. I think we have a good shot at getting Kabongo.

Post #928 » by **DG88** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:50 pm

Kanter DO NOT WANT. He's the next bust in this draft. He would rather play against a chair than a live bball player.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #929 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:52 pm

darth_federer wrote:Biyombo and Kanter are refusing to work out. So we re going to have to rely on Maurizio to help us out. That pick will most likely be an international player.

Biyombo isn't refusing to work out, he simply isn't here. He's going to be available for measurements and workouts at the Adidas Eurocamp in June (like Motiejunas/Vesely/Valanciunas etc.)

yayotube · Post #930 » by **yayotube** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:00 pm

I think Id just take Kawhi Leonard/Biyombo this year and ride with Bayless at PG... then next year's draft aim for Kabongo

fredericklove · Post #931 » by **fredericklove** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:06 pm

Lol...Wolves is very high on him but realistically they should take DWill. Not sure about the Jazz though, they have too many big men but for sure the cavs won't pass on Kanter at 4th spot.

Truthrising · Post #932 » by **Truthrising** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:07 pm

CalderonFan wrote:DE strongly indicating that Enes Kanter is going to slide by refusing to work out competitively:

8th is likely the furthest Kanter would slide, due to a combination of not playing competitively the past two years and not working out for anyone outside of one-on-zeros

Kanter is scaring off already-skeptical teams with his unwillingness to work out competitively for any team.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Pos ... z1MiqQF9Sa
http://www.draftexpress.com

Did anyone know about this? that's a huge red flag

Right, Givony hasn't provided any proof that he refuses to workout with any team (He hasn't provided any source or quote to prove otherwise) We do know that Kanter will be at the Combine and Workouts so it's not like he's shying away from competition.

What we do know is the fact the Givony for some reason hates Kanter and will do whatever reason to bad mouth him, also I wonder who's Kanter's free agent is and is his agent giving him the proper advice?

Post #933 » by **5DOM** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:15 pm

Givony obviously heard something from the GMs.... Seriously, why do you keep thinking that he's making all these comments up? And if it's actually true that Kanter's unwilling to participate in competitive workouts, he IS shying away from competition.

jrsmith · Post #934 » by **jrsmith** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:18 pm

Kanter refusing to work out vs competition that he should be dominating (according to his fanboys). What toughness and passion, def. the type of player we need.

Post #935 » by **Rhettmatic** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:18 pm

5DOM wrote:Givony obviously heard something from the GMs.... Seriously, why do you keep thinking that he's making all these comments up? And if it's actually true that Kanter's unwilling to participate in competitive workouts, he IS shying away from competition.

Givony does seem to have an ax to grind with Kanter, but I agree, he's not just going to invent this stuff.

Though the blame should fall with Kanter's agent, not the player himself. Still, if they're trying to hide something, it's not encouraging.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #936 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:20 pm

5DOM wrote:Givony obviously heard something from the GMs.... Seriously, why do you keep thinking that he's making all these comments up? And if it's actually true that Kanter's unwilling to participate in competitive workouts, he IS shying away from competition.

To clarify my view, I don't think this would be a problem had he played basketball competitively over the last year or so. But, since he hasn't, there's just not enough footage on him to get a read on him. That's why GMs probably would like him to workout in something other than 1-on-0s. Some GMs might not care though, and take him regardless.

DatHomieYouHaTe · Post #937 » by **DatHomieYouHaTe** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:20 pm

If I was Kanter 1 on 1's would be the way to go. He would dominate like our boy hoffa did. If anything kahn(Babcock still there?) might take him at 2

Zarko · Post #938 » by **Zarko** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:23 pm

Kemba and Knight don't do anything Bayless can't. All 3 have poor court vision, are good at creating their own shot but don't have explosiveness to really put teams in trouble.

Unless were getting a sure fire dynamic point guard, we shouldn't burn a pick on one. That leaves Biyombo, Kanter, Jonas, Vesely. Jonas looks like he needs 3-5 years to develop and Kanter has a bunch of ? marks. Don't know much about Vesely or Biyombo so this draft is a mystery to me.

Truthrising · Post #939 » by **Truthrising** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:23 pm

5DOM wrote:Givony obviously heard something from the GMs.... Seriously, why do you keep thinking that he's making all these comments up? And if it's actually true that Kanter's unwilling to participate in competitive workouts, he IS shying away from competition.

I think Givony has taken it out of context, the last we heard was this:

Kanter's advisors want to wait and see what happens with the draft lottery. They only want Kanter to work out for teams that are drafting in the top 5-7 range, but more importantly they want to be selective of which teams Kanter works out for so that they can find teams that would be an ideal fit.

http://thehoopsreport.com/article.aspx?id=710

So it's not like he's not going to workout, but be selective as per the advice from his advisors.

Post #940 » by **Rhettmatic** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:26 pm

^ That article was from April, though, and didn't say anything about competitive workouts. Givony was at the draft lottery yesterday interviewing GMs, Colangelo and Kahn included.

I'm intrigued by Kanter too but it seems like you're just hearing what you want to hear. If Givony is reporting that teams are frustrated by the fact that Kanter is avoiding competitive workouts, I believe him.

I don't think he would put his credibility on the line because of some vague personal vendetta against Enes Kanter.