MIN Could Trade #2 or Trade Down?

[LarSiN]

The Wolves very well could trade that No. 2 overall pick for a veteran(s) and/or a pick later in the lottery.

Kahn said he and his staff will have to discuss if such a young team should get younger still.

"Is there a tipping point where you're too young, where it's just not right," he said. "I won't say the draft pick won't be used."

http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/122083164.html

Come on Kahn. Id love to swing a deal to get Flynn + D.Williams from them. Id throw them #5 and a 2012 1st lottery protected till 2015 or something.

Short sighted to trade 2012 1st for this year's pick.
Next year's top 10 can be better than this year's top 2.
I would rather give up this year's 5th for next year's top 15.

You do realize that "lottery protected" means we'd keep it next year if we don't make the playoffs ?

[HEDOBALL]

#5, TPE, Bargnani

#2, Flynn, Pekovic

[Leolovinliberal]

Trade Bargs to Cleveland for #4, package #4, #5 for #2 and Anthony Randolph. New lineup:

PG: Bayless
SG: Demar
SF: DWill
PF: Easy Ed
C: AR

Our front court would be freaky athletic, and they would all be excellent rebounders. Sure Randolph is a little skinny for center, but a.) so what, we're still gonna be a lottery team anyway, b.) he was effective as a center with GSW when he was even skinner and c.) He's already as tall as and heavier then Camby was when he was our center.

[CreaM]

Do we still have Barbosa under contract? If we do, he could be a major asset if were looking to move up.

[EH15]

You have to be out of your freaking mind if you want Anthony Randolph as our starting center.

[blueseeka]

Can't believe people are thinking offering Calderon + #5 for #2.
Really, Minny's gonna trade down 3 spots for Calderon

[henrydunn13]

Calderon, Alabi, and #5 Pick

for

Milicic, Flynn, and #2 Pick


J.Bayless/J.Flynn
D.DeRozan/L.Barbosa
D.Williams/J.Johnson/L.Kleiza
A.Bargnani/E.Davis
D.Milicic/A.Johnson/J.Dorsey

[Leolovinliberal]

You have to be out of your freaking mind if you want Anthony Randolph as our starting center.

Why? He played it for GSW, he played it for Minny at the end of the year and put up several double doubles, and he's as tall as and heavier than camby was when he played center for us.

[T_Biggums]

You have to be out of your freaking mind if you want Anthony Randolph as our starting center.

Why? He played it for GSW, he played it for Minny at the end of the year and put up several double doubles, and he's as tall as and heavier than camby was when he played center for us.

LOL he played it for two terrible teams!

Camby is a natural born centre.

[just23]

They need a starting point guard or a great wing. We aren't going to be their trading partner. They won't take Bargs, or Jose for the number 2 pick. They already have a great perimeter shooting big, who happens to be an all star and the league's number 1 rebounder. And why would they want Jose? They've invested a lot of time and hope into Rubio and need to give him a chance at least. For anyone who thinks Jose is some kind of mentor, what are you smoking? He is one of the most uncreative point guards in the league and he gives nothing on the defensive end. We just don't have anything they would want.

[Kabookalu]

They need a starting point guard or a great wing. We aren't going to be their trading partner. They won't take Bargs, or Jose for the number 2 pick. They already have a great perimeter shooting big, who happens to be an all star and the league's number 1 rebounder. And why would they want Jose? They've invested a lot of time and hope into Rubio and need to give him a chance at least. For anyone who thinks Jose is some kind of mentor, what are you smoking? He is one of the most uncreative point guards in the league and he gives nothing on the defensive end. We just don't have anything they would want.

I agree it'll take a lot more than Calderon to get the number 2 pick but you're also forgetting about his nationality. Bringing over Calderon will help further convince Rubio to play for Minnesota because he'll know at least one other player on the team. If negotiations with Rubio break down, they might look into somehow acquiring Calderon. I doubt it's for the 2 pick but we'll leave to fleecing the Wolves to BC

[Leolovinliberal]

You have to be out of your freaking mind if you want Anthony Randolph as our starting center.

Why? He played it for GSW, he played it for Minny at the end of the year and put up several double doubles, and he's as tall as and heavier than camby was when he played center for us.

LOL he played it for two terrible teams!

Camby is a natural born centre.

Uh, we're terrible too. And if you go to the Wolves board, many of them are advocating that he become their center this upcoming season, as he's a much better rebounder and scorer than Darko. Again, we have a "natural born center" size wise, currently, but he's petrified of contact, rebounding and boxing out, so what good does it serve us? AR is 6'11 235lbs, he's only 21 and has the frame to easily put on 30 more lbs. Not getting the objection.

[JamesNaismith]

I have no idea how we could convince them to trade this without coughing up our 2012 pick (which definately isn't worth it) but damn I hope BC can work some magic to get DWill.

[flatjacket1]

I have no idea how we could convince them to trade this without coughing up our 2012 pick (which definately isn't worth it) but damn I hope BC can work some magic to get DWill.

Top 5 protected and I'd do it.

[JamesNaismith]

I have no idea how we could convince them to trade this without coughing up our 2012 pick (which definately isn't worth it) but damn I hope BC can work some magic to get DWill.

Top 5 protected and I'd do it.

I wouldn't

Even after the top 5 next year there will be either Gilchrist, Barnes, McAdoo, Miller, PJones -- all of whom I think have potential close to DWilliams or better so no I don't give that up when we can wait a year. Maybe swap this years with a top 10 protected 2013 pick but nothing more for me (I'm even on the fence about lotto protecting it overall)....he's good but not that good.

[Narf]

Seems I should clear up a few things from a Wolves fan point of view.

1) We don't want Calderon. No, no, really.
2) We don't need quantity, we have a lot of that. We need quality.
3) Any trade for the #2 pick would start with DeRozan. Otherwise you can't come close to competing with other team's offers.

I do think a deal could make sense for both sides. Some variation of #2, Flynn, and Wes Johnson for DeRozan, #5, protected future pick might help both teams.

But really, don't worry about #2 unless DeRozan is on the other end of that deal

[J Dilla]

double post

[ty123]

Seems I should clear up a few things from a Wolves fan point of view.

1) We don't want Calderon. No, no, really.
2) We don't need quantity, we have a lot of that. We need quality.
3) Any trade for the #2 pick would start with DeRozan. Otherwise you can't come close to competing with other team's offers.

I do think a deal could make sense for both sides. Some variation of #2, Flynn, and Wes Johnson for DeRozan, #5, protected future pick might help both teams.

But really, don't worry about #2 unless DeRozan is on the other end of that deal

You should really get the **** off our board.

[J Dilla]

Toronto: 5th Pick+Calderon+Johnson

Minny: 2nd Pick, Beasley,

Sign DeAndre Jordan

Jordan
Davis
Beasley
DeRozan
Irving

Championship time.

[Narf]

Seems I should clear up a few things from a Wolves fan point of view.

1) We don't want Calderon. No, no, really.
2) We don't need quantity, we have a lot of that. We need quality.
3) Any trade for the #2 pick would start with DeRozan. Otherwise you can't come close to competing with other team's offers.

I do think a deal could make sense for both sides. Some variation of #2, Flynn, and Wes Johnson for DeRozan, #5, protected future pick might help both teams.

But really, don't worry about #2 unless DeRozan is on the other end of that deal

You should really get the **** off our board.

Trolling your own board is still trolling. You're welcome to disagree with me, but I suggest you grow up just a touch and try a more intellectual approach.