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dagger wrote:nbadraftnet NBADraft.net
Kemba Walker measured 6'1 in shoes according to a source in CHI. That's huge for his draft stock.
Darain wrote:Dude is like 6-10, 6-12 at the most
But he is definitely not 7 foot
dagger wrote:nbadraftnet NBADraft.net
Kemba Walker measured 6'1 in shoes according to a source in CHI. That's huge for his draft stock.
HSOB SIRHC wrote:@MikeWellsNBA Mike Wells
Kahn via text on the Minny/Indy rumor: "You mean we don't have to give them (Kevin) Love too?"
Youngblood wrote:dagger wrote:nbadraftnet NBADraft.net
Kemba Walker measured 6'1 in shoes according to a source in CHI. That's huge for his draft stock.
HSOB SIRHC wrote:@MikeWellsNBA Mike Wells
Kahn via text on the Minny/Indy rumor: "You mean we don't have to give them (Kevin) Love too?"
Bankai wrote:Anyone think we should grab a 2nd Rounder and look to get hometown kid Corey Joseph on the Raptors? HIs tolerance to ride the pine will be greater than most people since he is playing for his hometown, plus its a feel good story on the cheap. Cant be too bad having a hometown kid as the main towel waiver. And who knows, he might actually see some minutes due to the Jay Triano factor.
2011 Nike Hoop Summit: International Measurements
April 4, 2011
Lucas Nogueira
Weight: 218 lbs.
Height (w/o shoes): 6'10"
Height (w/ shoes): 6'11.5"
Wing Span: 7'5.5"
Body Fat: 7.8%
Standing Reach: 9'3"
Brazilian big man Lucas Nogueira had plenty of NBA draft buzz coming into the 2011 Nike Summit after impressing many who saw him last summer at the U-18 FIBA Americas tournament in San Antonio, where he led the tournament in rebounds, blocks, and field goal percentage. He played less than 13 minutes during the game at the Hoop Summit, second least on the team, but he did score 4 points, grabbed 6 rebounds, and blocked a shot, and gave glimpses of why he is such an intriguing prospect.
Lucas's appeal starts with his incredible physical tools, as a 7-footer with a freakishly long 7'6” wingspan, and excellent mobility for a player his size. At this stage, his physical talents manifest themselves mainly in some jaw-dropping blocked shots, rebounds, and dunks from offensive rebounds, cutting to open spaces, and running the floor. His body is still very thin and weak, but that should come in time with the proper work ethic.
Lucas's offensive skill set is still very raw, but he shows glimpses of some promise, especially in his feel for the game, occasionally throwing some very impressive passes. He is still very limited as a scorer and has virtually no post game, but he has decent touch on his shot and is an outstanding finisher around the basket thanks to his physical tools.
Defensively, Lucas has incredible potential, as his size, length and mobility gives him the ability to cover a huge amount of ground and make a major impact as a shot-blocker. His fundamentals are fairly poor at the moment, struggling to step out on the perimeter, biting on pump-fakes and giving up ground too easily in the post, but he's often able to compensate for that with his sheer length and timing. He'll need to get significantly stronger to avoid being backed down in the paint by more physically mature big men, something that might take a few years and will surely involve plenty of hard work.
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Bankai wrote:Anyone think we should grab a 2nd Rounder and look to get hometown kid Corey Joseph on the Raptors? HIs tolerance to ride the pine will be greater than most people since he is playing for his hometown, plus its a feel good story on the cheap. Cant be too bad having a hometown kid as the main towel waiver. And who knows, he might actually see some minutes due to the Jay Triano factor.
MEDIC wrote:I wasn't impressed at all with Nogueira while watching the Hoops Summit. He looked pretty useless. He needs to add a LOT of size & strength. His athleticism didn''t stick out either.
MEDIC wrote:I wasn't impressed at all with Nogueira while watching the Hoops Summit. He looked pretty useless. He needs to add a LOT of size & strength. His athleticism didn''t stick out either.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:MEDIC wrote:I wasn't impressed at all with Nogueira while watching the Hoops Summit. He looked pretty useless. He needs to add a LOT of size & strength. His athleticism didn''t stick out either.
He seems pretty freakin' athletic to me. He just seems apathetic. Loren Woods-like.
MEDIC wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:MEDIC wrote:I wasn't impressed at all with Nogueira while watching the Hoops Summit. He looked pretty useless. He needs to add a LOT of size & strength. His athleticism didn''t stick out either.
He seems pretty freakin' athletic to me. He just seems apathetic. Loren Woods-like.
That's the problem. He really didn't do anything to impress. He was so tentative out there.
How do you judge someone's athleticism when they don't (or can't) even fight for the ball? The Loren Woods type apathy is a massive red flag.
MEDIC wrote:The NBA needs to do something because kids like Nogueira don't belong in a 2 round NBA draft. He's much too raw to ever be able to evaluate whether or not he'll be a good pro.
They either need to deepen the draft (4-5 rounds) & add a proper farm system.
or
Increase the age restriction to 21-22.
Personally, I like the idea of having a proper farm system, deepening the draft & owning a players rights.
