Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 8

[DG88]

As much as I've been dissing Knight, I'd be fine with us taking him. If he busts though & proves me right, I'll be completely pissed.

Kanter is still my guy if he is there at 5. Next guy in line is Walker.

If they pick Knight, they had better have done their homework & considered how he'd fit on this team.

My problem with Knight is that he reminds me so much of Derozan. Raw, athletic, hard worker, good jumpshot, but not a whole lot else.

We'll be in HUGE trouble if both out guards lack court vision, have weak handles, & can't beat their man one on one off the dribble.

His handles are a serious concern...

During the televised combine, Frans Franchillo (sp?) mentioned that Knight can't go left at all. I dug up some clips and noticed that he's right, Knight almost always dribbles right.

How can a point guard not be able to go left? Him and Derozan would be pretty shaky handling the ball.

If he can't dribble left then that a big problem. It makes me want Walker even more now

[henrydunn13]

I like Brandon Knight's size, athleticism, quickness, and defence. Also a great shooter. He's younger than Kemba and has more room to grow (with less experience). Also his body seems to be very thin and he should fill out as he ages. Kemba is the pick for today (don't think we're in urgent need). Brandon will have the potential to be better in the future.

I wonder if Jimmer is going to impress us in the athletic portion of the combine tomorrow and enter into the discussion of top 5 picks...

[Truthrising]

Anyone post this yet?

Kentucky center Enes Kanter, expected to be a top pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, would like to be drafted by the Washington Wizards in the NBA Draft. This is according to CSN Wizards reporter Chris Miller who spoke with the Turkish big man about the upcoming draft. Miller said that Kanter would like to play for the Wizards and John Wall who is apparently a friend of his off the court. Miller also cited owner Ted Leonsis' comments that the Wizards need to improve in the rebounding category, in 2010-11 Washington ranked 15th in the league with 41.3 rebounds per game as a team.

How credible is CSN Wizards reporter Chris Miller???

[ty123]

As much as I've been dissing Knight, I'd be fine with us taking him. If he busts though & proves me right, I'll be completely pissed.

Kanter is still my guy if he is there at 5. Next guy in line is Walker.

If they pick Knight, they had better have done their homework & considered how he'd fit on this team.

My problem with Knight is that he reminds me so much of Derozan. Raw, athletic, hard worker, good jumpshot, but not a whole lot else.

We'll be in HUGE trouble if both out guards lack court vision, have weak handles, & can't beat their man one on one off the dribble.

This is why I'd prefer Walker because of his ability to break down defenses and be a good passer from dribble penetration. We've been wanting a PG like that for a long time.

Would you be wiling to spend 2-3 years devleoping Knight, a pg that has no court vision has trouble getting to the rim and has a Chauncey Billups ceiling when we might have the oppurtunity to pick Kabongo or Tony Wroten who are way, way better prospects? I sure as hell wouldn't.

[RaptorReloaded]

Music to my ears!! Knight or Die!!!

[Silk Wilkes]

Brandon Knight and DeMar DeRozan were highly scrutinized for their lack of abilities coming into the draft. But the one thing they have is that desire to get better with a tireless work ethic. Brandon can't go left but is it impossible to learn? I think not. Last time I checked we weren't only a young point guard away from a championship.

[andyo]

I wouldn't mind taking Knight or Walker over Kanter. It's so tough to call, Kemba is the more impressive player right now but Knight is younger and might translate to the NBA better. I actually wasn't that impressed with either in terms of playmaking.

[RaptorReloaded]

Agreed he's far from a finished product and it's not like we're going to be competing for a playoff spot next year unless our young talent blows our socks off and surprises the nba.

[ty123]

Agreed he's far from a finished product and it's not like we're going to be competing for a playoff spot next year unless our young talent blows our socks off and surprises the nba.

Why wait for him to develop when you got Kabongo, Tony Wroten Jr., etc who are all hundred times better point guard prospects declaring next year, where we're still likely to be terrible. Take Walker, and if he becomes a bust than we don't have to wait for him 2-3 years and can select a good point guard prospect next year.

[OAKLEY_2]

My problem with Knight is that he reminds me so much of Derozan. Raw, athletic, hard worker, good jumpshot, but not a whole lot else.

Uhhh he is a money shooter with the sweetest of strokes. That is a big difference right there when we are talking about 3 point shooting. His weakness is footwork where he pretty much has a forward and reverse. Not a lot of speed changing ability. He actually reminds me of Richard Hamilton in his prime before he donned the mask. He is a shooting guard running the point. So I think he has potential to be a small version of Rip. I'm sure what the raps like is his scoring and defence and that he has been so highly touted coming into college. The biggest knock is that he doesn't have prototypical point guard moves. That he is not compact. After Williams I like him best followed by Kanter.

[Silk Wilkes]

Agreed he's far from a finished product and it's not like we're going to be competing for a playoff spot next year unless our young talent blows our socks off and surprises the nba.

Why wait for him to develop when you got Kabongo, Tony Wroten Jr., etc who are all hundred times better point guard prospects declaring next year, where we're still likely to be terrible. Take Walker, and if he becomes a bust than we don't have to wait for him 2-3 years and can select a good point guard prospect next year.

FYI Brandon Knight was the #1 ranked high school point guard in his class (over Kyrie Irving). So calling Kabongo and Wroten better players is laughable. I like them as players too, but Brandon is no joke.

[toka]

I like Brandon Knight's size, athleticism, quickness, and defence. Also a great shooter. He's younger than Kemba and has more room to grow (with less experience). Also his body seems to be very thin and he should fill out as he ages. Kemba is the pick for today (don't think we're in urgent need). Brandon will have the potential to be better in the future.

I wonder if Jimmer is going to impress us in the athletic portion of the combine tomorrow and enter into the discussion of top 5 picks...

Yeah, you shouldn't like Knight's defense or quickness. Knight's not that quick. He has trouble getting by quick guards in college. And he's not a good defender. Everyone says he has the potential to be a good defender because of his size, that remains to be seen. He is younger, so maybe he has loads of untapped potential. His body will fill out and he'll have good strength, combined with good size and decent quickness.

[prototype]

I'm not surprised BC is interested in Brandon Knight. He seems to have a thing for combo guards as much as tall shooting bigs, remember he really liked Jrue Holiday during the 2009 draft too.

I wouldn't be upset picking Knight either. Like I said he's the better prospect with a lot of room to grow and skills to add if you're patient whereas Kemba is the better player now. You know what he can bring and he is more NBA ready.

[ty123]

Agreed he's far from a finished product and it's not like we're going to be competing for a playoff spot next year unless our young talent blows our socks off and surprises the nba.

Why wait for him to develop when you got Kabongo, Tony Wroten Jr., etc who are all hundred times better point guard prospects declaring next year, where we're still likely to be terrible. Take Walker, and if he becomes a bust than we don't have to wait for him 2-3 years and can select a good point guard prospect next year.

FYI Brandon Knight was the #1 ranked high school point guard in his class (over Kyrie Irving). So calling Kabongo and Wroten better players is laughable. I like them as players too, but Brandon is no joke.

I could give two **** about high school rankings. Avery Bradley was the number 1 rated point guard in high school over John Wall. Kabongo and Wroten are better PGs. Your only fooling yourself.

[Silk Wilkes]

I could give two **** about rankings. Kabongo and Wroten are better PGs. Your only fooling yourself.

No need to get your panties in a bunch nancy I was just letting you know. You probably didn't like the DeRozan pick either, although you'd never admit it.

[toka]

FYI Brandon Knight was the #1 ranked high school point guard in his class (over Kyrie Irving). So calling Kabongo and Wroten better players is laughable. I like them as players too, but Brandon is no joke.

He was for a long time but at the end there he was being overtaken by Irving and Selby.

Kind of like when Mayo was consensus #1 for a long time but Rose & Gordon caught up & were considered better pro prospects by the end of their HS career.

Some guys develop really early, and are so much more athletic and bigger than everyone else in their age group that they dominate. By the time they reach the end of their senior years, other guys catch up and they start looking more and more mediocre. See Lance "Born Ready" Stephenson.

[ty123]

I was rooting for the Derozan pick. He was always a versatile scorer and if you look at his high school videos you see a very interesting SG prospect.
I'm not in love with PG's that have absolutely no court vision. If you want to make yourself look like a fool go post a thread who is a better pg prospect Brandon Knight or Myck Kabongo/Tony Wroten jr. /Thread.

[Silk Wilkes]

FYI Brandon Knight was the #1 ranked high school point guard in his class (over Kyrie Irving). So calling Kabongo and Wroten better players is laughable. I like them as players too, but Brandon is no joke.

He was for a long time but at the end there he was being overtaken by Irving and Selby.

Kind of like when Mayo was consensus #1 for a long time but Rose & Gordon caught up & were considered better pro prospects by the end of their HS career.

Some guys develop really early, and are so much more athletic and bigger than everyone else in their age group that they dominate. By the time they reach the end of their senior years, other guys catch up and they start looking more and more mediocre. See Lance "Born Ready" Stephenson.

Yea that's true. Lance is another cup of tea

[Silk Wilkes]

I was rooting for the Derozan pick. He was always a versatile scorer and if you look at his high school videos you see a very interesting SG prospect.
I'm not in love with PG's that have absolutely no court vision. If you want to make yourself look like a fool go post a thread who is a better pg prospect Brandon Knight or Myck Kabongo/Tony Wroten jr. /Thread.

Calm down smart guy. I think any intelligent person would agree you have to compare them at the same levels. At this point Brandon would win out since he was the better high school prospect. Am I saying Brandon is guaranteed to be a star while Tony & Myck are sure to fail? No. I think I admitted I liked them as potential prospects. Tony and Myck could very well turn out better than Brandon. Now do you get it? Got it? Good, since you understood.

[henrydunn13]

Yeah, you shouldn't like Knight's defense or quickness. Knight's not that quick. He has trouble getting by quick guards in college. And he's not a good defender. Everyone says he has the potential to be a good defender because of his size, that remains to be seen. He is younger, so maybe he has loads of untapped potential. His body will fill out and he'll have good strength, combined with good size and decent quickness.

I disagree, I think he has great quickness and is easily able to penetrate and get by his man. His defence is good and he puts effort in - with his strong work ethic he will reach his defensive potential. The knock on Knight's athleticism is normally his jumping, not his quickness.