Official Transaction Ideas thread

[Doormatt]

spurs arent giving up parker AND ginobili, but i imagine one of them, probably parker, can be had.

i think i proposed a artest/gasol/filller for jefferson/parker/filler trade a few weeks ago. lakers could throw in a couple of 2nd rounders that the spurs always do so well with, possibly blake, and the spurs could kick us a big. doubt they want to part with splitter, but blair is still decent.

parker/fisher
bryant/????
jefferson/barnes
odom/blair
bynum/????

i think we'd look pretty damn good if we could get kobe a good backup. pipe dream = jamal crawford.

[Jajwanda]

Or perhaps Bynum+Ebanks+Caracter+Blake for Parker+Ginobli with no youth thrown in by San Antonio at all and Blake being a decent backup for Hill for the Spurs. Lakers then either sign a decent C or (Timmy D makes a strange decision to opt out). They'd probably be the greatest old team the league has ever seen. Just for **** and giggles:

PG- Parker, Douglas
SG- Bryant, Ginobli
SF- Artest, Barnes
PF- Gasol, Odom, Rashard Lewis
C- Duncan, Keith Benson

Would pretty much be absolutely ridiculous. I call them the Lakurs...

[Jetset]

The Lakers and the Spurs joining one team......interesting. But the same result would be had, and that's an early exit. Besides Duncan will retire in San Antonio, and I'm doubtful that Spurs would even deal with us anyway. Especially Duncan, Parker, AND Ginobili

[Doormatt]

Reminds me of the 04 team, except a lot less talented. Thankfully there's no defensive juggernaut like the pistons, so the lakers would easily win the title.

Unfortuantely that deal isn't even remotely based in reality.

[Jajwanda]

Chris Douglass Roberts? He can improve his 3 point shot in this offense and if he can hit even 35% over the next couple of years, the guy could be really good. He's a FA and I think we can nab him. He's actually got legitimate SG size and the ability to make his own shot.

[Jetset]

Who the hell is that

[Jajwanda]

Dude who played for the Nets for two years and then the Bucks. 24 years old, 6-7. Not that athletic, but not slow at all. Has a really good, smooth game. A poor man's Nick Young perhaps with better defense.

[The_Trade_Seer]

CDR was the leader of the Memphis Tigers team the year he and D-Rose lead them to the title game ... smoothe game, very solid backup 2-3 ... worth around 4-5 mil per at most. I'd say a poor man's Wilson Chandler more than Nick Young but whatever ...

[Doormatt]

no interest in douglas roberts. id like to get Gibson from the cavs tho, but dont think we have anything theyd like other than a resigned brown, and really, he's not as good as gibson so why would they deal?

we should try dealing brown to a gullible team for a mid to late first and offer it, along with caracter, for gibson. id like to at least keep ebanks to develop him as our future wing.

gibson's a great blend of 3pt shooting and defense that would be perfect off the bench...

[chefy]

trade 1

s&t Barnes, Brown, #41, #46

for

Michael Redd and #40

trade 2

Blake, tpe, #40

for

Willie Green

Lakers sign

Brooks with the full MLE and Foster for Vet's min + LLE


Bynum, Foster
Gasol, Odom
Artest, Ebanks, Walton
Kobe, Redd
Brooks, Green, Fisher


Championship!

[Zebra People]

trade 1

s&t Barnes, Brown, #41, #46

for

Michael Redd and #40

trade 2

Blake, tpe, #40

for

Willie Green

Lakers sign

Brooks with the full MLE and Foster for Vet's min + LLE


Bynum, Foster
Gasol, Odom
Artest, Ebanks, Walton
Kobe, Redd
Brooks, Green, Fisher


Championship!

I like the last two but why in the world would we trade a serviceable backup in Barnes for the corpse of Michael Redd? He hasn't played NBA basketball in well over a year.

If a shooter is what we need we should look at a guy like Boobie Gibson still fairly young is expendable since the Cavs are loged jammed at the pg S&t for brown or Sasha TPE and 2nd rounders could possibly land him.

[Zebra People]

no interest in douglas roberts. id like to get Gibson from the cavs tho, but dont think we have anything theyd like other than a resigned brown, and really, he's not as good as gibson so why would they deal?

we should try dealing brown to a gullible team for a mid to late first and offer it, along with caracter, for gibson. id like to at least keep ebanks to develop him as our future wing.

gibson's a great blend of 3pt shooting and defense that would be perfect off the bench...

The Cavs are loaded with point guards there also expected to be drafting Irving.I expect they'd be looking to unload any combination of Gibson,Sessions or Davis. S&T for Brown and Sasha TPE & 2nd rounders i think would be enough for them to let go of Gibson.

[Jajwanda]

Could get him for the TPE but I don't see the point exactly although I do admit that Gibson when playing alongside another PG has been EXTREMELY productive throughout his career. If you can find a larger PG (Kobe would work fairly well with him, but I'd rather a true large PG) like a Delonte West those two could kill from the perimeter at an almost ugly level from other teams. The floor would absolutely be spread wide open. Acquire Rashard Lewis and it could get ugly. That lineup could really give Miami trouble.

PG- West guarding Wade
SG- Gibson guarding Chalmers
SF- Bryant guarding James
PF- Lewis guarding Anthony
C- Gasol guarding Bosh

It wouldn't be that great defensively, but it would absolutely shoot the lights out and be a nightmare in the P and R.

[Doormatt]

Bynum for gortat+nash

I wouldn't do it but it would make us a great team.

[Jetset]

Well guys, Jerry West is now an advisor for the Warriors.



Looks like that Curry for Fisher+58th pick is still going down.







As for trading Gasol for the 2nd pick, I'd think long and hard about it, then I'd say no dice. We don't have a need for Derrick Williams and the 2nd overall pick is too high to draft Knight or Walker. Although I'm sure trading down wouldn't be an issue, it just seems like a bad idea overall. If Irving was going to be available with that pick then there'd be less hesitation on doing it. A front court of Kanter/Bynum is disastrous, they both have bad knees.

[chefy]

trade 1

s&t Barnes, Brown, #41, #46

for

Michael Redd and #40

trade 2

Blake, tpe, #40

for

Willie Green

Lakers sign

Brooks with the full MLE and Foster for Vet's min + LLE


Bynum, Foster
Gasol, Odom
Artest, Ebanks, Walton
Kobe, Redd
Brooks, Green, Fisher


Championship!

I like the last two but why in the world would we trade a serviceable backup in Barnes for the corpse of Michael Redd? He hasn't played NBA basketball in well over a year.

If a shooter is what we need we should look at a guy like Boobie Gibson still fairly young is expendable since the Cavs are loged jammed at the pg S&t for brown or Sasha TPE and 2nd rounders could possibly land him.

I knew I was gonna get burn for that lol. I think Redd still has a lot of left in the tank, if hes healthy, I believe hes still capable of playing at a high level, borderline-all star level. Plus if you noticed veteran all star players who are also good shooters, like Ray Allen, Stojacovic, Finley, and Terry are extremely deadly come playoff time. But I agree the trade is indeed a big gamble.

[chefy]

Gibson would be nice if we don't have Fisher and Blake already on our team. His game is kinda similar to Fisher but with less defense.

but to be honest I don't think we're gonna a true pointguard this off season, why? for two reasons.

1) I don't think were gonna be able get rid of Fisher and Blake. if we try to sign a pointguard it would create a log jam in the position and we would be undersized at the 2 spot.

a)the Lakers are not trading Fish period.
b)no team would want Blakes's contract. unless we're gonna get a bigger contract in return. still, doubt that is enough, we probably still need to add a sweetener for the deal, like a future draft pick.

2) there is no available pointguard in the free agency. Brooks and Chalmers are nice. but we only have the MLE. and I don't see any of those two settling for just the MLE.


IMO the only way we can get a starter caliber pointguard is via trade.


I think what Mitch is going to do or should do is try to get a combo guard. Like Aflalo, Nick Young, Barbosa, Marcus Thornton, Josh Howard, Al Thonton, Willie Green. And then start Blake, and move Fisher at the bench to backup the 2 spot.

our backcourt would look like this

Kobe, Fisher
Blake, Young

[Jajwanda]

Anyone think we could acquire Brandon Jennings? Taking a chance on a guy with that much talent with Kobe around is the way to go. Kobe is one guy that helped Derrick Rose, Carmelo Anthony, and a few other stars really take off from just chuckers and players constantly trying to play out of their element to becoming what they should be. Brandon Jennings should be a score first PG in a system like Rick Adelman's offense that asks for that. He just needs to be more efficient doing it.

We would have to take a large contract coming back but perhaps it can be done. Here's a try:

Jennings, Gooden for Barnes, Blake, Caracter, Ebanks, two first round picks

[ALL HAIL]

Minnsota needs a center and defense ... especially on the wings.

Gasol to MINN for #2, Milicic, and filler (Pekovic/Flynn)

Minnesota does it to give them their best center since Mikan. They also do it to placate Rubio and somewhat ease his transition to cold ass Minneapolis.

With Gasol and Love in the paint, and a pass first PG to get them the ball, Minnesota would need dynamic defense on the wings to balance out the soft interior:

Beasley and Webster to PHIL for Iguodala and Speights:

MIN looks like this:

PG - Rubio - Ridnour
SG - Iguodala - Ellington
C - Gasol - Speights
PF - Love - Randolph
SF - Johnson - ???

LAL look like this:

PG - Blake - Irving or Knight (#2 pick)
SG - Bryant - Fisher - SG depth
C - Bynum - Mohammed - Milicic
PF - Odom - Landry - Pekovic
SF - Barnes - Artest - Ebanks

Would Minnesota take on Gasol's contract? Probably not. Would I? Yes

Because, although neither are great defenders, Gasol and Love has the potential to be extremely, extremely dynamic. Although they both won't make any All-Defense teams, they would compliment each other extremely well. Both are first rate passers, and Love physicality and brute should mix well with Gasol's finesse. Also, with Rubio, who seems to be a pass first, and very unselfish PG, it only adds to the chemistry (not to mention Gasol and Rubio are countrymen). When you throw in the defense and athleticism on the wings of Iguodala and Wes Johnson, and a four solid rotational guys off the bench, this MIN could really do some things.

I moved this discussion to where it belongs because I didnt want to get that Bynum thread off topic.

The aforementioned deal probably won't happen but if I were Minny, I damn sure would think long and hard about it.

If Irving falls to #2, do you all really think Kahn has the BALLS to draft another PG when his prize jewel has already agreed to come next year? I don't. And I wouldn't. Not when you have the opportunity to build your team around two talented bigs and a big, cagey, pass first PG who would willingly feed the ball to Love and Gasol every trip down the floor.

And oh yeah!

The Lakers solve their decade long PG dilemma wiht Irving or Knight. You have to give to get.

[Doormatt]

Gibson would be nice if we don't have Fisher and Blake already on our team. His game is kinda similar to Fisher but with less defense.

Is this a joke? did you actually insinuate fisher is a better defeder than Gibson?? WTF?? Just because fisher tries hard on defense doesn't mean he is doing a good job, Gibson is a much better defender.

As far as shooting, it's not even close. Gibson has posted a TS% of 61 and 53 the last 2 years while shooting 40+% from 3. In that time, fisher has posted a TS% 49 and 48 respectively.

Most importantly, fisher is 36 and is only going to get worse. Gibson is only 24 and worst case scenario, this is the best he can do.

Gibson is infinitely better/more valuable than fisher. I would imagine he would be a lot like what people thought Blake would be, good shooter, good defender and solid off the bench. And unlike Blake, he's already used to playing off a superstar, so it won't be that difficult for him to assimilate.

IMO Blake needs to run plays in order to be a truly effective PG. Gibson does not.