Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread

[corwin]

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I am half tempted to put this in a poll. I mean maybe this is why so many people on this board are Iggy lovers. He is certainly a solid role player that is in the middle of the pack on a talent level. But if its fear that is making some love him. Then they need to get some therapy. Keeping him is like paying 15.00 bucks for a big mac. Yeah its pretty good. But it isn't worth 15.00 bucks.

Please do this. Maybe the wording should be:
Should the franchise be satisfied to have a competitive team?
Should the franchise attempt to build a championship team?

[P2K]

Yeah yeah they should have started from scratch back when they traded iverson and you knew this all along and blah blah blah. I'm not going down this road with you again.

You disagree?

Wouldn't surprise me.

The fact is that in hindsight perhaps yep they should have but it's too late now.

That "it's too late", "we are in the situation that we're in" bullcrap dopesn't work on me. This franchise's past idiocy has us where we are today.

Back then at the tome of the A.I trade Iggy was an up and coming young talent that the franchise believed could turn into something nice, he didn't and now we have to move on. **** happens. They guessed wrong and now they have to find they're way out. They'll trade Iggy and try to build with Turner and Jrue as the centerpieces and if that doesn't work then move on to the next feasible plan.

So, like that other poster said, there are those on here that are content with mediocrity. "Oh, it didn't work out. Yeah well, that's life. Onto the next deal."

And yet, I'm insulting you? You're insulting all of us with you bull****.

[P2K]

The Sixers drafted Evan Turner #2 overall.

And?

[Point-God]

The Sixers drafted Evan Turner #2 overall.

And?

Exactly.

[Kobblehead]

Ya'll going hard in this thread.

[P2K]

The Sixers drafted Evan Turner #2 overall.

And?

Exactly.

Exactly what?

Soooo that's it? Just stop right there with Turner and build around him? Or because he didn't kill it this past season, that means we should just never pick in the top 3 again? Exactly what?

[Kobblehead]

I challenge someone to make a post with three points about why we should keep Iguodala. Make your points well articulated and in a few words as possible. Don't waste time and space by filling up your post with filler. Which is what most pro Iguodala posts contain.

[Negrodamus]

I challenge someone to make a post with three points about why we should keep Iguodala. Make your points well articulated and in a few words as possible. Don't waste time and space by filling up your post with filler. Which is what most pro Iguodala posts contain.

1. He's a great defensive player in the NBA.

2. He is entering his prime

3. Matching him up with a bona-fide star would make him a great second option.

4. Trading him would say to the fan base that the organization made a mistake in signing him to that contract.

However, I want to trade Iguodala very very badly. I don't see this team doing much more than what we saw this season without some drastic moves.

[tgo2223]

I challenge someone to make a post with three points about why we should keep Iguodala. Make your points well articulated and in a few words as possible. Don't waste time and space by filling up your post with filler. Which is what most pro Iguodala posts contain.

1. He's a great defensive player in the NBA.

2. He is entering his prime

3. Matching him up with a bona-fide star would make him a great second option.

4. Trading him would say to the fan base that the organization made a mistake in signing him to that contract.

However, I want to trade Iguodala very very badly. I don't see this team doing much more than what we saw this season without some drastic moves.

+100

[SJSF]

I challenge someone to make a post with three points about why we should keep Iguodala. Make your points well articulated and in a few words as possible. Don't waste time and space by filling up your post with filler. Which is what most pro Iguodala posts contain.

1. He's a great defensive player in the NBA.

2. He is entering his prime

3. Matching him up with a bona-fide star would make him a great second option.

4. Trading him would say to the fan base that the organization made a mistake in signing him to that contract.

However, I want to trade Iguodala very very badly. I don't see this team doing much more than what we saw this season without some drastic moves.

1. He is a good defender.

2. He has been in the league 6 years, i believe he is on the decline. Injuries? Without his legs he has no game at all. His whole game is based on his athletic ability since he has limited basketball skill.

3. Saying he is a role player doesn't cut it.

4. Nothing wrong with saying you made a mistake if you try to fix it.

3.

[Mik317]

Yeah yeah they should have started from scratch back when they traded iverson and you knew this all along and blah blah blah. I'm not going down this road with you again.

You disagree?

Wouldn't surprise me.

The fact is that in hindsight perhaps yep they should have but it's too late now.

That "it's too late", "we are in the situation that we're in" bullcrap dopesn't work on me. This franchise's past idiocy has us where we are today.

Back then at the tome of the A.I trade Iggy was an up and coming young talent that the franchise believed could turn into something nice, he didn't and now we have to move on. **** happens. They guessed wrong and now they have to find they're way out. They'll trade Iggy and try to build with Turner and Jrue as the centerpieces and if that doesn't work then move on to the next feasible plan.

So, like that other poster said, there are those on here that are content with mediocrity. "Oh, it didn't work out. Yeah well, that's life. Onto the next deal."

And yet, I'm insulting you? You're insulting all of us with you bull****.

You insulted me with that underhanded I doubt you thought about it comment. As If I'm an idiot or something. and then you call my opinion bull. If you payed any attention you'd know that I thought that the okay with mediocrity comment was crazy.

My point being that everything you criticize this franchise with is via hindsight. Iggy was a young guy that the FO though he could become a top tier guy. You can't fault them for that because you know now that he isn't that guy. That hindsight. It suck and we can hope that they find a way out that's not settling for mediocrity that's being realistic and not a whiny baby. I'm frustrated as hell at where we are at but I'm not going to act like we cannot get out of here without blowing **** up. Besides if/when we move Iggy Brand will be the only guy that is old barring what we get back for Iggy so technically they will blow it up.

That's the the end of it because I'm going to say something I'd regret and get banned from here if I continue.

[Negrodamus]

I challenge someone to make a post with three points about why we should keep Iguodala. Make your points well articulated and in a few words as possible. Don't waste time and space by filling up your post with filler. Which is what most pro Iguodala posts contain.

1. He's a great defensive player in the NBA.

2. He is entering his prime

3. Matching him up with a bona-fide star would make him a great second option.

4. Trading him would say to the fan base that the organization made a mistake in signing him to that contract.

However, I want to trade Iguodala very very badly. I don't see this team doing much more than what we saw this season without some drastic moves.

1. He is a good defender.

2. He has been in the league 6 years, i believe he is on the decline. Injuries? Without his legs he has no game at all. His whole game is based on his athletic ability since he has limited basketball skill.

3. Saying he is a role player doesn't cut it.

4. Nothing wrong with saying you made a mistake if you try to fix it.

3.

He's consistently in the conversation as one of the best man on man defender in the league. Just because you say he's a "good defender" doesn't make it so.

He still has his legs and length. He's 27 years old which means he's entering his prime. What's his worst injury in his career thus far? An Achilles strain? I honestly don't know. I don't remember him having any knee problems. He looks like he can still yam it pretty damn well.

Being a second option doesn't mean you are a role player. Look around, there are a lot of good second option players on teams. Some priced lower than Iguodala.

"try to fix it". Ha, you think Philly fans are forgiving if you "try to fix it"? If they get rid of Iguodala and start sucking hardcore, the Thorn will never hear the end of it.

[corwin]

1. He is a good defender.

2. He has been in the league 6 years, i believe he is on the decline. Injuries? Without his legs he has no game at all. His whole game is based on his athletic ability since he has limited basketball skill.

3. Saying he is a role player doesn't cut it.

4. Nothing wrong with saying you made a mistake if you try to fix it.

3.

Sums it up pretty well. I think he's been in the league 7 years & role player may understate what he is. Not sure what I'd call him but I also don't see him as a 2nd option.

[P2K]

You insulted me with that underhanded I doubt you thought about it comment. As If I'm an idiot or something.

You said it, not me.

and then you call my opinion bull. If you payed any attention you'd know that I thought that the okay with mediocrity comment was crazy.

Yeah because you made it obvious lol

My point being that everything you criticize this franchise with is via hindsight.

Yeah. Because they are paid to have hindsight. They are paid professionals that are hired on their ability to judge if the players they pick are any good or not. So what's the problem?

Iggy was a young guy that the FO though he could become a top tier guy. You can't fault them for that because you know now that he isn't that guy. That hindsight.

Did you see Iguodala being a superstar player when he was picked? Especially after Iverson was traded?

If you say you had to think about it, you're lying through your teeth.

It suck and we can hope that they find a way out that's not settling for mediocrity that's being realistic and not a whiny baby.

I never thought I'd see the day when wanting your team to stop being incompetent is being whiny.

I'm frustrated as hell at where we are at but I'm not going to act like we cannot get out of here without blowing **** up. Besides if/when we move Iggy Brand will be the only guy that is old barring what we get back for Iggy so technically they will blow it up.

With your past posts and with comments like above, I don't believe that you are frustrated at all. I think that dude was right when saying some are good with 40-45 wins a season over building a champion.

[P2K]

"try to fix it". Ha, you think Philly fans are forgiving if you "try to fix it"? If they get rid of Iguodala and start sucking hardcore, the Thorn will never hear the end of it.

Why would they suck? With so many sold on Jrue and Turner being future superstars (based on God knows what), losing a role player like Iguodala shouldn't hurt at all, right?

[sixerswillrule]

P2K's plan is to not re-sign anyone, ever, until we get a superstar. Then we can re-sign him. Iguodala should've been let go, Young should be let go now, Holiday should be let go in 2 years, and Turner should be let go in 3 years. The roster should just be made up of rookie contracts and minimum salary veterans, and when the rookie contracts expire they should be tossed aside like chopped liver. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Kobblehead]

P2K's plan is to not re-sign anyone, ever, until we get a superstar. Then we can re-sign him. Iguodala should've been let go, Young should be let go now, Holiday should be let go in 2 years, and Turner should be let go in 3 years. The roster should just be made up of rookie contracts and minimum salary veterans, and when the rookie contracts expire they should be tossed aside like chopped liver. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Don't dumb down or exaggerate what he is saying just because you don't agree with it.

[Point-God]

P2K's plan is to not re-sign anyone, ever, until we get a superstar. Then we can re-sign him. Iguodala should've been let go, Young should be let go now, Holiday should be let go in 2 years, and Turner should be let go in 3 years. The roster should just be made up of rookie contracts and minimum salary veterans, and when the rookie contracts expire they should be tossed aside like chopped liver. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Don't forget that in the process the GMs and coaches should be fired every other season because they couldn't get a superstar and/or coach a winning team, even though they stuck to the plan of certain fans of not committing to any players that aren't top 20 in the NBA while still playing under their rookie contract. The Trailblazers were the perfect franchise model until injuries and unfulfilled promise took hold. Now OKC is the perfect franchise model, although Westbrook is taking heat from these same fans for not being perfect. I wonder how those fans will feel about Westbrook come extension time. You know he will ask for the max. CUT HIM! HE'S A BUM!

[sixerswillrule]

P2K's plan is to not re-sign anyone, ever, until we get a superstar. Then we can re-sign him. Iguodala should've been let go, Young should be let go now, Holiday should be let go in 2 years, and Turner should be let go in 3 years. The roster should just be made up of rookie contracts and minimum salary veterans, and when the rookie contracts expire they should be tossed aside like chopped liver. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Don't dumb down or exaggerate what he is saying just because you don't agree with it.

I didn't exaggerate anything. He's made it clear that since we didn't already have a superstar, Iguodala shouldn't have been re-signed because he isn't a superstar. Same for Young. He's also made it clear that he doesn't think Holiday or Turner will become superstars. I'm just going off of what he has already said.

[Kobblehead]

Honestly, and no offense, but you still seem buthurt over the comment he made about Iguodala not being a top 6 forward.

All he is saying is that we shouldn't overpay to retain replaceable players. Regardless of how he feels about Jrue or Turner, that concept itself is right.