2011 NBA Draft Thread II (New Poll & Mock Draft Results)

[GONYK]

Why do you prefer him over reggie jackson?

Morris is more of a pure PG. I like his athleticism, size, and vision. He reminds me of Andre Miller. I think under Chauncey's tutelage, he would be perfect here. Especially since Chauncey is also a bigger PG.

[Guano]

Why do you prefer him over reggie jackson?

Morris is more of a pure PG. I like his athleticism, size, and vision. He reminds me of Andre Miller. I think under Chauncey's tutelage, he would be perfect here. Especially since Chauncey is also a bigger PG.

I'll admit I don't know much about this draft class. It was the first time in a long time that the draft didn't give me more hope than actual Knicks basketball. From the little I've read, Reggie Jackson seems like he would be a good fit. Has good size(7ft wingspan) and a good 3pt shot.

Its good that our pick will be coming to a solid team with not a lot of pressure to be a savior. Whoever it is will be given a great chance to succeed.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Klay makes the most sense with the team we have. He is a marksman and he has a high IQ. The genetics don't hurt either.

Brooks has a pro game and I believe will be a starter in the NBA down the line.

Faried has some glaring issues, namely height and lack of offensive polish but he is a beast in the paint and has the demeanor to fit in with our collection of talents.

Fredette is MDA's wet dream but I don't think he can guard a door in the league. If the plan is to use Melo more as a creator then I can understand the logic but I am not as high on this guy as most.

I like Brooks and his proclamation of being the only pure point guard after Irving in this draft but he doesn't fit the mold of what I'd like to see in a back up for Chauncey; I believe we need a speedster and a guy that can finish at the rim consistently....he doesn't appear fast and is not a good finisher for his height...and we know he can't shoot. I wouldn't be upset if we pick him but he's down on my personal board.

Tyler is big but I see Daniel Orton written all over the kid and I don't think he''s worthy of a guaranteed contract. If we had another pick, maybe but not at #17.

Jenkins just seems like a really good college player with a game that won't transition to the NBA.

Nikola may be tall but that doesn't make him good or rather I wouldn't project him being a good pro as the #'s suggest. I'm biased, Pac-10 big men scare me. Unless it's Kevin Love.

Reggie Jackson may be the sleeper but the fact that he pulled out of the combine worries me. I don't know enough about him to pass judgement but from everything I hear he has upside. If we pick him, I wouldn't jump for joy but I'd definitely give him the benefit of the doubt.

Selby may be the most talented guy on the list...but he doesn't fit a need. Can he blossom into a good pro? I really think under Chauncey's watchful eye and big bro Melo on board, he will be on best behavior and motivated to prove doubters wrong. He definitely comes across as tough and we need that. I think he's young enough to get a lot better...I am warming up to the kid as the tea leaves suggest he will likely be the pick available to us.

1.Klay Thompson-best shooter; fits what we do.
Comparison: Anthony Parker w/a more dynamic game

2.Kenneth Faried-will be a beast on the glass from day one.
Comparison: Reggie Evans w/more athleticism

3.Josh Selby-has lottery talent.
Comparison: Jeryd Bayless

4.Marshon Brooks-just has a pro's game, size, confidence and wingspan.
Comparison: CJ Miles

5.Darius Morris-is a pure distributor.
Comparison: Ramon Sessions w/better court vision

6.Nikola Vucevic-length and skill.
Comparison: Rasho Nesterovic

7.Reggie Jackson-sleeper.
Comparison: Armon Johnson

8.Jimmer Fredette-Steve Kerr 2.0.
Comparison: Steve Kerr

9.Charles Jenkins-no frills but productive.
Comparison: Dominique Jones

10.Jeremy Tyler-size, youth and upside.
Comparison: Kwame Brown

Subject to change in a half hour or so.

[homeboi21]

The knicks have a lot of areas to fill out such as
1) A Back up pg
2) A center
3) A starting shooting guard etc....
I understand the importance of cap space but i feel with our team having so many holes we need to acquire another 1st rounder in this draft. A year from now if we feel that one of the players we selected isn't in our future plans do a straight salary dump example Beasley for a 2nd rounder.

[BelieveTheDream]

The knicks have a lot of areas to fill out such as
1) A Back up pg
2) A center
3) A starting shooting guard etc....
I understand the importance of cap space but i feel with our team having so many holes we need to acquire another 1st rounder in this draft. A year from now if we feel that one of the players we selected isn't in our future plans do a straight salary dump example Beasley for a 2nd rounder.

we need a starting PG/C/ and if we deal fields for a pick then a starting 2 or 3 depending on matchups we could put melo at the 2 vice versa if we took a guy who was versatile etc.....Like I said

Deal Fields and TD for a first round pick, deal walker and cash for a late first, deal balkman for a 2nd and if we could buy picks do it...a good amount of players in this draft may not be what teams want nad they are going to be looking to sell there pics and we need to jump on this and add as much talent as possile...

[Rasho Brezec]

One of the mods pm bno and tell him to get his butt in this thread. It's the only reason I keep reading it.

[ECity34]

I want to the Knicks to select SG Klay Thompson from Washington State University. However, what if Kemba Walker drops to the 17th pick?

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I want to the Knicks to select SG Klay Thompson from Washington State University. However, what if Kemba Walker drops to the 17th pick?

Honestly, if he drops it's for a reason. Love his toughness and competitiveness but he is overrated in my opinion. If I were Donnie, I'd take Klay and not try to get cute. Buy a second and target a big, if none are there, take a second round flier on Willie Reed/Keith Benson or Greg Smith. I like Smith. We don't have a big burly body anywhere on the roster.

[earthmansurfer]

I want to the Knicks to select SG Klay Thompson from Washington State University. However, what if Kemba Walker drops to the 17th pick?

Honestly, if he drops it's for a reason. Love his toughness and competitiveness but he is overrated in my opinion. If I were Donnie, I'd take Klay and not try to get cute. Buy a second and target a big, if none are there, take a second round flier on Willie Reed/Keith Benson or Greg Smith. I like Smith. We don't have a big burly body anywhere on the roster.

Klay is the best shooter in the draft. He is probably going to be gone by 10-14 or so. I guess it's possible he falls. He would look nice in this system.

As others have said, we really need to buy a couple of more picks.

All - Don't overlook Jerome Jordon helping us at the center position next year. With Melo and Stat drawing most of the attention and Jordan's ability to finish great, I think we may be ok at center. That said BPA.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

While it's widely known that Minnesota is open to discussing trades involving it's No. 2 pick, a source said the Timberwolves' No. 20 pick is even more available. SI.com

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Charles Jenkins has been projected by some as a first round pick. But every scout I have spoken with has him in the 50s or lower. I 've watched him play a number of times and scoured through hours of his highlight footage and I see a player that scores primarily by bullying opponents inside of 12-15 feet of the basket. He's got a strong physique but he's an average shooter and at 6'3 he is very small for a shooting guard. NBADraft.net

[Jmonty580]

I'm interested in Nikola Vucevic but in all honesty I dont know enough about him. I want someone at 17 that I know can come in and have an immediate impact on our team. Guys like Jimmer, and Faried I know would come in and help out right away. Nikola Vucevic could... but I dont know enough about him. If he can grab some boards and defend opposing bigs thats good enough. If he can roll to the hoop and catch some oops even better.

I'll tell you what, I think alot of people arent going to be too happy on draft night lol. I see Jimmer gone, Faried gone, and maybe even Nikola Vucevic gone. I see Biyombo falling but I could see us letting him pass for some reason. I see MDA convincing Walsh that he needs Jordan Hamilton. lol i've been saying it a while and most people shoot it down. But this is a kid who could be a big 2 guard, and he can spend some time at the 3. He can knock down that open 3 and I think he runs the court well and is more athletic that he gets credit for. I think he'll be there and I could see us picking him if some of our other targets are already gone.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I could see that as well. Honeycutt, M.Lee, Nolan Smith, Keith Benson, Travis Leslie, Kyle Singler (yuck) and Chandler Parsons could be dark horse candidates also.

[Jmonty580]

I could see that as well. Honeycutt, M.Lee, Nolan Smith, Keith Benson, Travis Leslie, Kyle Singler (yuck) and Chandler Parsons could be dark horse candidates also.

Defintely could see Honeycutt or Keith Benson. LOL @ Singler ha ha.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/willie-reed

I was just reading about this kid WIllie Reed and he sounds like he could help us a bit. If he can play some decent defense and at the very least on offense play the Ronny role where he runs around and when people are sleeping on him because they are paying so much attention to Amare and Melo he can swoop in for easy dunks and oops (much like Gozgov did too). A little undersized but with our small line ups he could work for stretches. Thats just reading a review though, has anyone really watched this guy play?

[BLACKFEET 2010]

There was a rumor being floated that Allan Houston was a big fan of his.

[Jmonty580]

There was a rumor being floated that Allan Houston was a big fan of his.

Huh, hadnt heard that one. Honestly reading what nbadraft.net has to say about him he sounds like a fit for our system. He seems mostly a bit undersized for a center, but very athletic. Seems not polished on offense but we wouldnt need much from him. I'd be very interested in him if we can snag a second round pick. Just liked what I read, sounds like a fit for our team.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I've heard John Wallace meets Amare. Raw but shows solid promise.


TKB: A lot has been talked about Reed, who the Knicks worked out last week. For more off court background info, click here (thanks Ridiculous Upside)…

Reed has caught the attention of Allan Houston, who I’m told is running this year’s draft coverage for the team before reporting findings to Donnie Walsh.

[moocow007]

I could see that as well. Honeycutt, M.Lee, Nolan Smith, Keith Benson, Travis Leslie, Kyle Singler (yuck) and Chandler Parsons could be dark horse candidates also.

For 17? Maybe Honeycutt (unlikely since he's a bit on the rawish side). Otherwise the Knicks should be sticking with the usual suspects and not try to get too cute. It's one thing to take a shot on one of these guys with a mid 2nd rounder (see Fields), it's another to take guys that likely would be around in the middle of the 2nd in the middle of the 1st.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Strangely, he (Reed) wasn't at the combine. Maybe we told him to shut it down.

[Deeeez Knicks]

did you watch the video though? sullinger spins around him like he's stuck in cement. sullinger only played 25 minutes and had limited stats because it was such a blowout. and most of those steals were off of guards like diebler, lighty, and craft. I don't doubt that he'll get hustle stats like steals and maybe blocks just from being energetic a la balkman. so he probably doesn't have the height or weight to defend the post- one thing that will probably translate though is his rebounding but that's the only thing known.

As for Vucevic, I picked those games specifically since he was playing against future nba big men. it's not like those are the only blocks he ever had. I'm just trying to understand how 1.4 blocks per game is in any universe bad. at worse, it's average. I won't address the toughness concerns because who knows. At least he rebounds.

I watched the video. He will probably struggle in the post defensively to start off. Pretty much every young big man does. But he has really quick feet, he's athletic, he hustles and he's relentless. I think those things will translate into him eventually being a good defender. Rebounding is our biggest weakness which is the biggest way he will help our defense though.

I understand people don't see how Faried fits next to Amare, but there's still plenty of minutes for him off the bench. And he could play next to Amare for stretches the way the Celtics use KG and Big Baby or the Bulls use Gibson/Boozer/Kurt Thomas or the Spurs use Duncan and Blair. Pretty much every team goes small now a days.

Vucevic was 130th in blocks. Usually when a player can't get at least 2 blocks a game, he's not going to be a shotblocker in the NBA. Bogut is the exception and he was still at 1.9 in 30 min.

Its really difficult to find any player that size who only blocked 1.4 in 35 minutes. Only big men I can find w/ less are bad defenders like Lee and Boozer. Even Nick Collison was blocking 2 shots a game. Maybe Horford is another example at 1.8, but he's not really a shot blocker in the NBA and was playing next to Noah. Even guys who were busts like Michael Bradley were blocking almost 2 shots a game.

I won't be mad or anything if we draft Vucevic though. He definitely has his plus's. And who really knows how any of these guys will translate and improve?