2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II

[daner01]

Lol some of these trade proposals are just ridiculous. Maybe we can throw in Weems and Memphis will add Gasol! On second thought NO WAY, keep Weems and move Alabi instead.

[chinny]

Toronto In:
James Posey
Dhantay Jones
Francisco Garcia
Beno Udrih
#7

Indiana In:
Jose Calderon

Sacramento In:
Andrea Bargnani
Jerryd Bayless

Draft:
#5 Kemba Walker (assuming Knight is gone)
#7 Bismack Biyombo

Free Agent:
Reggie Evans

Lineup:
Walker/Udrih
Derozan/Barbosa/Jones
JJohnson/Garcia/Kleiza/Posey
Davis/AJohnson/Evans
AJohnson/Biyombo/Ajinca

This team should be much better defensively. Offensively, they have the potential to be very poor though. However, we will see how Derozan handles being a #1 and increase the offensive usage of Ed Davis to build his experience in the post. Udrih can come in when Walker's struggling. Jones is a good defender, Garcia is a good bench role player, Posey's old but can be of use as a spot up 3pt shooter with decent defense in limited minues. The idea of having Biyombo, Ed, Amir and James Johnson swatting everything and all being able to make athletic plays on the offensive end is also intriguing.

Justification for Sacramento: Bargnani spreads the floor for Cousins and Evans. Bayless is a superior defender to Udrih and looks to be a proven scorer when needed to be.

Justification for Indiana: They need a reliable vet as a backup to Collison who can run a team and not turn the ball over. If they want to go young, they can see if Cleveland will be interested in Granger for #4 and select Kanter or Jonas V.

[theSkinny]

Bargs Jose


for Artest, Walton, Blake, Ebanks and a future 1st and the 46th pick in 2011

[Reignman]

Honestly, just move Bargs for Kaman and call it a night. That'll give us a stop gap for a couple of years while we find a long term option.

[Rapsobsessed7]

would anyone else do this?

To Toronto: Brandon Jennings + Larry Sanders + Corey Maggette
To Milwaukee: Jose Calderon + Leandro Barbosa + Rights to #5

why Larry Sanders? BC talked about shot blocking and he brings that. Hes apparently 6'11 athletic as hell and loves to play defense. Read this interview we had with him during last years draft. Apparently he impressed everyone there. I like this deal.

RHQ: How'd the workout go today?

Larry Sanders: It went good, I thought it went well, very intense, I think we all got after it today which made for some great competition.

RHQ: Cool - I was just asking Jim Kelly (Raptors' Defacto Head of Scouting) about your performance actually; you've sort of flown under the radar a little bit at college compared to the other guys in here today, but Kelly was saying you came out here and were the quickest up and down the court, and really intrigued with your overall skills package. For those readers of ours who don't know you as well, can you talk to us a bit about some of those skills you bring to the game?

LS: Definitely my speed like you mentioned, my ability to get up and down, my motor; I'm able to out-run some of these slower guys. I'm a very energetic player, I love playing defence, and that's where I give most of my energy at...and that's basically my game.

RHQ: I heard you compare your game to KG in the scrum, can you elaborate on that?

LS: I think it's my defense-first mentality and the fact that I'm long, quick and athletic. Not saying I'm the next KG (laughs) but I'd say I try and look to his game in terms of how I'd like to develop.

RHQ: Of course KG provides a lot of attributes that this Toronto Raptors' team could use right now, do you look at this club then and see a good fit for yourself?

LS: I would say it is - I mean, it seems they need big guys, defense, rebounding, that stuff...and of course I'd love to be able to work with Chris Bosh every day, just things like that. It would just be such a privilege for me, learning from the coach here, the coaching staff, the facility is wonderful, I've been here one night and I already love Toronto!

RHQ: (Laughing)

LS: Man, this city is ridiculous! I didn't expect Canada to be like this, and not to down Canada, but I'd just never been anywhere in the country!

RHQ: It's funny but over the past few years of workouts, I've heard that quite a bit!

LS: Yeah man, my eyes are open now! (More laughing.)

RHQ: So I want to get back to the KG compare for a second. KG has a great face-up game and yet can post-up etc, too. Would you say you're more of a "face-up player?" I watched you a good deal in college and I know you've got a back-to-the-basket game, and saw some great drop-steps and footwork today, but what are you more comfortable with style-wise?

LS: I would say back-to-the-basket, but in this league, the players are going to be a lot bigger and stronger. My face-up game is definitely in development, that's something I'm working on every day and I'm going to be good at. I'm going to be able to use my quickness to get around some of these bigger guys, and I think that will help expand my game.

RHQ: Talk to us a bit about your career in college, because you played at a smaller school, do you think that helped or hurt you? I was talking to a colleague during the workout and explaining how sometimes that's a benefit because you get increased playing time, you get to dominate and therefore really work on your game. Contrast that to say Daniel Orton who's here, who barely played at all even though he went to one of the biggest basketball programs in Division I.

LS: Well, I talk to Eric (Maynor) about this a lot and he said something interesting that I agree with; players who go to big schools, the schools kind of make the player. We felt like we made our school.

LS: It's hard because we're not on ESPN a lot, you know, it's difficult to get certain games against certain people so scouts can see you match-up against other prospects, stuff like that. It's hard, but we did it and I think showed the pluses of our situation.

RHQ: How many workouts do you have after this, you were saying earlier this is your...

LS:...fourth.

RHQ: Fourth one, ok...

LS: ...yeah, four so far...and I have approximately nine more.

RHQ: Oh wow...

LS: ...yeah...

RHQ: ...you'll be getting a good run in!

LS: Rolling. (laughs.) I'm almost at that hump though! Almost there so I'm good, it goes up from there!

RHQ: So any particular players you're working out with? I know there are groups of guys working out in Vegas, or LA etc.

LS: I'm at IMG...

RHQ: ...aww, right, forgot you're working out with that team.

LS: Yeah, in Florida. Down there with Derrick Caracter, the point guard from Alabama, Mikkail Torrance, just going at each other every day and trying to improve.

RHQ: Great stuff man. Well thanks for taking the time to talk to us and good luck in the process!

so he already loves Toronto, compares himself to KG because he loves playing defense and puts all his effort into that end of the floor, is athletic and a shot blocker. Hes exactly what we need and we fill our void with Jennings.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvqai-Xia2c[/youtube]

imagine these 2 on our team running with Demar and Ed. Sanders looks like a center to me.

[luenell]

Toronto In:
James Posey
Dhantay Jones
Francisco Garcia
Beno Udrih
#7

Indiana In:
Jose Calderon

Sacramento In:
Andrea Bargnani
Jerryd Bayless

Draft:
#5 Kemba Walker (assuming Knight is gone)
#7 Bismack Biyombo

Free Agent:
Reggie Evans

Lineup:
Walker/Udrih
Derozan/Barbosa/Jones
JJohnson/Garcia/Kleiza/Posey
Davis/AJohnson/Evans
AJohnson/Biyombo/Ajinca

This team should be much better defensively. Offensively, they have the potential to be very poor though. However, we will see how Derozan handles being a #1 and increase the offensive usage of Ed Davis to build his experience in the post. Udrih can come in when Walker's struggling. Jones is a good defender, Garcia is a good bench role player, Posey's old but can be of use as a spot up 3pt shooter with decent defense in limited minues. The idea of having Biyombo, Ed, Amir and James Johnson swatting everything and all being able to make athletic plays on the offensive end is also intriguing.

Justification for Sacramento: Bargnani spreads the floor for Cousins and Evans. Bayless is a superior defender to Udrih and looks to be a proven scorer when needed to be.

Justification for Indiana: They need a reliable vet as a backup to Collison who can run a team and not turn the ball over. If they want to go young, they can see if Cleveland will be interested in Granger for #4 and select Kanter or Jonas V.

Sacramento is rebuilding, their not going to take an extra 10 million dollars in annual salary along with trading away their draft pick

[plainballing]

Toronto In:
James Posey
Dhantay Jones
Francisco Garcia
Beno Udrih
#7

Indiana In:
Jose Calderon

Sacramento In:
Andrea Bargnani
Jerryd Bayless

Draft:
#5 Kemba Walker (assuming Knight is gone)
#7 Bismack Biyombo

Free Agent:
Reggie Evans

Lineup:
Walker/Udrih
Derozan/Barbosa/Jones
JJohnson/Garcia/Kleiza/Posey
Davis/AJohnson/Evans
AJohnson/Biyombo/Ajinca

This team should be much better defensively. Offensively, they have the potential to be very poor though. However, we will see how Derozan handles being a #1 and increase the offensive usage of Ed Davis to build his experience in the post. Udrih can come in when Walker's struggling. Jones is a good defender, Garcia is a good bench role player, Posey's old but can be of use as a spot up 3pt shooter with decent defense in limited minues. The idea of having Biyombo, Ed, Amir and James Johnson swatting everything and all being able to make athletic plays on the offensive end is also intriguing.

Justification for Sacramento: Bargnani spreads the floor for Cousins and Evans. Bayless is a superior defender to Udrih and looks to be a proven scorer when needed to be.

Justification for Indiana: They need a reliable vet as a backup to Collison who can run a team and not turn the ball over. If they want to go young, they can see if Cleveland will be interested in Granger for #4 and select Kanter or Jonas V.

Pretty bad deal to me. The main thing is the #7 this year...if it is a #7 next year then it's good deal. Other wise you are giving away our first option and a good PG for 4 scrubs and #7 in a very weak draft.

[Gymbo]

Hey everyone - Cavs fan here.

I could be totally mistaken, but I thought at one point your organization was interested in Anderson Varejao. If this is true, then what do you think about this:

Cleveland trades: Anderson Varejao
Cleveland obtains: Traded Player Exception (Bosh) and 2011 first (#5)

Please note that this is just a foundational question. This can be tweaked. Like you guys, Cleveland has our TPE that we are still trying to use prior to July 1 (just in case the CBA is restructured to eliminate them).

I listened to Bryan Colangelo at the Combine saying that he thinks his biggest need is a defensive presence to put next to Bargnani. Well, Varejao would be a great fit next to Bargnani at the four and would provide veteran leadership since many of your players are young. Varejao is one of my favorite players, but I look at nobody on our roster as unmovable right now.

If I'm way off base, my apologies.

[Silk Wilkes]

Hey everyone - Cavs fan here.

I could be totally mistaken, but I thought at one point your organization was interested in Anderson Varejao. If this is true, then what do you think about this:

Cleveland trades: Anderson Varejao
Cleveland obtains: Traded Player Exception (Bosh) and 2011 first (#5)

Please note that this is just a foundational question. Like you guys, Cleveland has our TPE that we are still trying to use prior to July 1 (just in case the CBA is restructured to eliminate them).

I listened to Bryan Colangelo at the Combine saying that he thinks his biggest need is a defensive presence to put next to Bargnani. Well, Varejao would be a great fit next to Bargnani at the four and would provide veteran leadership since many of your players are young. Varejao is one of my favorite players, but I look at nobody on our roster as unmovable right now.

If I'm way off base, my apologies.

Giving up #5 for Varejao is way too much. I'd give up a Calderon or Bargnani, but I'll take my chances with the pick over Andy. I might even give up Leandro's expiring with some sweetner added from Cleveland's perspective.

[Gymbo]

Hey everyone - Cavs fan here.

I could be totally mistaken, but I thought at one point your organization was interested in Anderson Varejao. If this is true, then what do you think about this:

Cleveland trades: Anderson Varejao
Cleveland obtains: Traded Player Exception (Bosh) and 2011 first (#5)

Please note that this is just a foundational question. Like you guys, Cleveland has our TPE that we are still trying to use prior to July 1 (just in case the CBA is restructured to eliminate them).

I listened to Bryan Colangelo at the Combine saying that he thinks his biggest need is a defensive presence to put next to Bargnani. Well, Varejao would be a great fit next to Bargnani at the four and would provide veteran leadership since many of your players are young. Varejao is one of my favorite players, but I look at nobody on our roster as unmovable right now.

If I'm way off base, my apologies.

Giving up #5 for Varejao is way too much. I'd give up a Calderon or Bargnani, but I'll take my chances with the pick over Andy. I might even give up Leandro's expiring with some sweetner added from Cleveland's perspective.

Fair enough. I wasn't sure. To your knowledge has there been past rumblings about interest in Varejao at any time before?

As an amendment would the Cavs' second round pick (#32) being added to my proposed deal bring things closer together?

[Silk Wilkes]

Hey everyone - Cavs fan here.

I could be totally mistaken, but I thought at one point your organization was interested in Anderson Varejao. If this is true, then what do you think about this:

Cleveland trades: Anderson Varejao
Cleveland obtains: Traded Player Exception (Bosh) and 2011 first (#5)

Please note that this is just a foundational question. Like you guys, Cleveland has our TPE that we are still trying to use prior to July 1 (just in case the CBA is restructured to eliminate them).

I listened to Bryan Colangelo at the Combine saying that he thinks his biggest need is a defensive presence to put next to Bargnani. Well, Varejao would be a great fit next to Bargnani at the four and would provide veteran leadership since many of your players are young. Varejao is one of my favorite players, but I look at nobody on our roster as unmovable right now.

If I'm way off base, my apologies.

Giving up #5 for Varejao is way too much. I'd give up a Calderon or Bargnani, but I'll take my chances with the pick over Andy. I might even give up Leandro's expiring with some sweetner added from Cleveland's perspective.

Fair enough. I wasn't sure. To your knowledge has there been past rumblings about interest in Varejao at any time before?

As an amendment would the Cavs' second round pick (#32) being added to my proposed deal bring things closer together?

I personally can't remember an instance where Toronto showed interest in Varejao but I can't see why they wouldn't be interested in acquiring a player like him. As for the 2nd rounder, it does bring things closer but not enough. The original deal is too far apart for a 2nd round pick to bring it close enough for Toronto to pull the trigger. For example, I'd need something like Barbosa + 5 for Varejao + 4 to take the deal.

[Gymbo]

I didn't think Barbosa could be traded because he holds a player option. Is Toronto trying to retain the Traded Player Exception for another purpose or simply trying to not take on too much salary?

Linas Kleiza, Julian Wright, and 2011 first for Anderson Varejao? The same thing though, was Wright's team option picked up yet? Otherwise, I don't think he could be traded either.

[Silk Wilkes]

I didn't think Barbosa could be traded because he holds a player option. Is Toronto trying to retain the Traded Player Exception for another purpose or simply trying to not take on too much salary?

Linas Kleiza, Julian Wright, and 2011 first for Anderson Varejao? The same thing though, was Wright's team option picked up yet? Otherwise, I don't think he could be traded either.

Barbosa can definitely be traded, he'll never turn down that option. The second deal is something I'd go for, I'm not sure what the majority of Cavs fans would think though.

[OAKLEY_2]

I'd love to have Varajao. Like Cleveland we need picks. I would not trade Barbosa if Varajao is incoming. I'd do Kleiza, our number 5 for Varajao, 2 second rounders 2011/2012 and Eyenga. Sign me up.

[Rapsobsessed7]

To TOR: Jennings + Maggette + Sanders
To MIL: Calderon + Barbosa + #5

Raptors get rid of Calderon get a young PG and C. Sanders loves Toronto, i think Jennings in an uptempo system with guys who can run would be great

Bucks get scoring which they need and grab #5 along with #10 who replaces Sanders (Thompson?)

To TOR: Diop + Najera + 2012 2nd Round Pick
To CHA: Maggette

Raptors save 3 million in 2012, grab a 2nd to hopefully combine with our 2nd and move up in 2012 to the late 1st round

Bobcats get their starting SF while giving up nothing of use really.


- Sign a SG via FA (Reggie Williams? Shot over 40% from 3 this year addresses that need)
- Sign a PG via FA (Ronnie Price? Vet backup)

Jennings / Bayless / Price
Derozan / Williams
Johnson / Klezia / Najera
Davis / Amir / Diop
Bargnani / Sanders / Alabi

[nostradamus]

If westbrook becomes available after losing to the mavs, I'd trade whatever it takes to try to get him.

[luenell]

If westbrook becomes available after losing to the mavs, I'd trade whatever it takes to try to get him.

You could trade them the whole team and they still wouldn't give up Westbrook

[nostradamus]

By his demeanor on the court, didn't look like he was all that happy, or they were all that happy with him with him getting benched in some key times in the series and Harden getting the ball in key situations.
But you're right, even if he is available, we may not have the pieces to get him, but would try with any combination of assets we have which would probably require a third team, because they don't have a bad contract on their roster.

[WeThe2019Champs]

This should work this off season.....

Tor
In: Rudy Gay & Nikola Pekovic
Out: Andrea Bargnani & Jose Calderon

Mem
In: Andrea Bargnani & Jonny Flynn
Out: Rudy Gay

Min
In: Jose Calderon
Out: Jonny Flynn & Nikola Pekovic

Draft a PG and pickup a C off season....

[andyhop]

This should work this off season.....

Tor
In: Rudy Gay & Nikola Pekovic
Out: Andrea Bargnani & Jose Calderon

Mem
In: Andrea Bargnani & Jonny Flynn
Out: Rudy Gay

Min
In: Jose Calderon
Out: Jonny Flynn & Nikola Pekovic

Draft a PG and pickup a C off season....

The Twolves have absolutely no interest in Calderon .