We may have a deal with Twolves (Granger)

[MNPacersfan]

Only way I give the Wolves Granger is in exchange for Wes Johnson, Anthony Randolph and the pick.

Rubio was a bad idea from the beginning, Beasley is inconsistent, and there's still something crazy (like, Artest crazy) under there.
Let the Wolves figure out their issues on their own. That team is a mess with no clear direction...

Randolph shores up the frontcourt, Wes Johnson can be a really nice option at the 2. Johnson's improvement last year was really fun to watch. The confidence is there, the experience is building. He'll not be a star, but he's going to be a really nice player.

By the way, it also frees up even more cap space...

[IndieRuso420]

Only way I give the Wolves Granger is in exchange for Wes Johnson, Anthony Randolph and the pick.

Rubio was a bad idea from the beginning, Beasley is inconsistent, and there's still something crazy (like, Artest crazy) under there.
Let the Wolves figure out their issues on their own. That team is a mess with no clear direction...

Randolph shores up the frontcourt, Wes Johnson can be a really nice option at the 2. Johnson's improvement last year was really fun to watch. The confidence is there, the experience is building. He'll not be a star, but he's going to be a really nice player.

By the way, it also frees up even more cap space...

Thats a solid deal. Said last week only way I trade Granger is for 2 youngs, an expiring, and a 1st rounder w/ no long term salary included. This is perfect. However, Im really not sure I want to trade Granger now. Ide consider it.

[8305]

I would be very surprised to see Granger bring the 2nd pick in the draft and additional value. This is a weak draft after you get past the first two guys. Very good chance Williams turns out to be a stud.

[216pacers]

if they could trade granger for the #2 and get derrick williams thats a NO BRAINER!

granger is a good player and would hate to see him leave but dwill is a STUD! replacing danny wih dwill's talent/potential is the best move for the future of this franchise.

i'm hoping this deal can get done

[orangeparka]

No offense, but I don't think Minny would trade even one of those for Granger.

[Boneman2]

No offense, but I don't think Minny would trade even one of those for Granger.

Are you talking about the same Granger that outperformed all the great players against Chicago's vaunted defense in the playoffs. His performance is even more spectacular when you consider that he was the only focal point for Chicago's D to focus on.

The fact you don't believe Minny would trade Wes, or AR, for Danny really sets your credibility back quite a bit. I can respect if you think the package is lopsided, but come on.

You can always come to Indiana and learn how to evaluate players.

[paulgeorge24]

No offense, but I don't think Minny would trade even one of those for Granger.

Are you talking about the same Granger that outperformed all the great players against Chicago's vaunted defense in the playoffs. His performance is even more spectacular when you consider that he was the only focal point for Chicago's D to focus on.

The fact you don't believe Minny would trade Wes, or AR, for Danny really sets your credibility back quite a bit. I can respect if you think the package is lopsided, but come on.

You can always come to Indiana and learn how to evaluate players.

WTF!! He was hardly the only focal point for chicago's D. Hansbrough??? Hibbert??? Collison???

That being said, he's worth anyone on the Wolves except for maybe Love.

[Boneman2]

No offense, but I don't think Minny would trade even one of those for Granger.

<BR itxtNodeId="849"><BR itxtNodeId="848">Are you talking about the same Granger that outperformed all the great players against Chicago's vaunted defense in the playoffs. His performance is even more spectacular when you consider that he was the only focal point for Chicago's D to focus on.<BR itxtNodeId="847"><BR itxtNodeId="846">The fact you don't believe Minny would trade Wes, or AR, for Danny really sets your credibility back quite a bit. I can respect if you think the package is lopsided, but come on. <BR itxtNodeId="845"><BR itxtNodeId="844">You can always come to Indiana and learn how to evaluate players.

<BR itxtNodeId="843">WTF!! He was hardly the only focal point for chicago's D. Hansbrough??? Hibbert??? Collison???<BR itxtNodeId="842"><BR itxtNodeId="841">That being said, he's worth anyone on the Wolves except for maybe Love.

You do understand why Deng guards all the best scorers from the opposing team ( Lebron/JJohnson)? It's because he's an elite defender. Apparently Chicago felt the need to apply their primary defender on Danny, making him the focal point. This is perfectly sensible since Danny is actually the focal point of our offense... duh. It's like saying we made DRose the focal point of our defense, because it is true.

What did you expect would happen after Danny ran his pie-hole, that Chicago would not focus on him.. That act alone put him on a pedestal.... no?

I think by game three Noah and Boozer felt they had broke Tyler and Roy's spirits. Once they started contesting Tyler, and abusing Roy things changed quickly.

Collison was our 2nd option and he was treated as such.

I maintain Granger had Chicago's full attention, and they had less to worry about against our roster, as opposed to Miami and ATL. This allowed them to focus even more on Granger.

[pacersfan1967]

I don't like it..I think it well set us back about 2 or 3 years.... I'm sure other trades well happen lets just enjoy this & be smart & get the players that fits the team & make us a contender & have a team we can be proud of once again...

[granger05]

I was reading Chad Ford's CHAT from almost a week ago and he made reference to this.

Brandon (Phoenix, AZ)

Thoughts on the rumor of Granger going to Minny for players and the #2? I would love it only if Indy drafted Kanter then they could move George to the 3 and pick up a SG in F.A.


Chad Ford (1:31 PM)

I think it's bogus. It think that's Minnesota trying to set the bar for what they're looking for. If the Pacers did swing a deal like that, I think it would be Derrick Williams that they grabbed. He's No. 2 on virtually EVERY board.

[orangeparka]

No offense, but I don't think Minny would trade even one of those for Granger.

Are you talking about the same Granger that outperformed all the great players against Chicago's vaunted defense in the playoffs. His performance is even more spectacular when you consider that he was the only focal point for Chicago's D to focus on.

The fact you don't believe Minny would trade Wes, or AR, for Danny really sets your credibility back quite a bit. I can respect if you think the package is lopsided, but come on.

You can always come to Indiana and learn how to evaluate players.

I meant one of the #2, Beasley or Rubio. They're really high on all of them. Trading a guy like Beasley plus incentives for Granger (regardless of what Indiana thinks) would really be beneficial for the Twolves, but I just don't see them doing it.

[shrink]

The thing that people need to understand about MIN is that their biggest need is a superstar. Love isn't one and neither is Granger, though both are very talented NBA players. Assets like the #2, Beasley and Anthony Randolph most likely aren't going to be superstars either, but they still have a sliver of a chance of making good on their potential and becoming one.

Now, I understand Kahn wants to win now, but accumulating a team full of Robins is generally not a successful direction. There are a lot less nab champs like 2004 DET, then there are superstar teams with guys like Michael, Shaq, or Kobe -- and I think that will be more likely in the current NBA.

Moreover, Granger is the star of the Pacers, and a focal point for ticket sales in Indiana. He has more specific value on his current team than he would in Minnesota.

In the end, while Granger is certainly a better player than #2, Beasley or Randolph, I think the specific value of guys like that to the Wolves makes it unlikely a deal could be reached that both teams would deem fair. IND would need at least two of them to consider moving Granger, and I don't think MIN would do it.

[8305]

The thing that people need to understand about MIN is that their biggest need is a superstar. Love isn't one and neither is Granger, though both are very talented NBA players. Assets like the #2, Beasley and Anthony Randolph most likely aren't going to be superstars either, but they still have a sliver of a chance of making good on their potential and becoming one.

Now, I understand Kahn wants to win now, but accumulating a team full of Robins is generally not a successful direction. There are a lot less nab champs like 2004 DET, then there are superstar teams with guys like Michael, Shaq, or Kobe -- and I think that will be more likely in the current NBA.

Moreover, Granger is the star of the Pacers, and a focal point for ticket sales in Indiana. He has more specific value on his current team than he would in Minnesota.

In the end, while Granger is certainly a better player than #2, Beasley or Randolph, I think the specific value of guys like that to the Wolves makes it unlikely a deal could be reached that both teams would deem fair. IND would need at least two of them to consider moving Granger, and I don't think MIN would do it.

agree