Official Transaction Ideas thread

[Jetset]

What's so confusing about my post? All I'm saying is if Bynum + filler is getting traded like you suggested it may as well be for a Chris Paul instead of a Curry and injured disk Biedrins. Since that's what it would take to get Paul anyway. Paul on one knee > Curry + Biedrins + 11th pick

what? when have i ever said bynum can get us cp3? he'd have a hard time fetching us curry+beans+11th, let alone chris paul. cp3 for bynum is a pipe dream, just like howard.

bynum+filler can get us a package involving curry, but probably has no shot at getting us cp3. dont even know why you equated the two.

I'm not exactly sure how you figured that out, but if you don't think NOH would trade Paul (who's bound to leave them anyway) for the league's 2nd best C then I don't know what to tell you. Tell me one trade that's better than Bynum + filler for Paul.

It's cool don't sweat, I can wait.

howard to me is a non-starter at this point. it looks very unlikely that orlando will trade with us, and since we have no shot in hell at picking him up in FA (unless he wants the MLE, lol), i dont expect dwight to wear P&G anytime soon, if ever.

Then why'd you mention about signing him in 2 yrs in your previous post? And I agree, I aint even mad. It's his decision and unless they pull of something that we're more likely of which is getting Paul or Deron then he'll continue to fall at the hands of Miami and Chicago.

[dockingsched]

i gotta disagree, i think bynum + filler getting cp3 is pipedream. no way that happens right now.

[Jetset]

Is it because of the league owning the Hornets? Because that's the only reason I can come up with of that trade not being considered.


I'm just pointing out that trading Bynum for Curry is a bad idea in it's own right and we're better off with the known of Bynum's knees.

[Doormatt]

I'm not exactly sure how you figured that out, but if you don't think NOH would trade Paul (who's bound to leave them anyway) for the league's 2nd best C then I don't know what to tell you. Tell me one trade that's better than Bynum + filler for Paul.

It's cool don't sweat, I can wait.

if you think bynum can get us cp3, then youre dreaming.

dont know what else to tell you.

Then why'd you mention about signing him in 2 yrs in your previous post? And I agree, I aint even mad. It's his decision and unless they pull of something that we're more likely of which is getting Paul or Deron then he'll continue to fall at the hands of Miami and Chicago.

because if he signs a 2 year extension and then walks after not winning (which is likely), then we'd probably have the capspace to sign him outright. kobe's contract will be up, artest will be done, and so will pau.

[Doormatt]

i dont think youre fairly evaluating bynum jetset. he's obviously a very good center, but his injuries take his value down, like a lot. teams that are looking to acquire him cant afford for him to miss 20-30 games, they dont have the talent we have. you dont trade a franchise PG like cp3, a guy who has all-time potential, for a center who has questionable knees.

bynum needs to have a full season without injuries to even be considered to have that kind of value.

[Jetset]

Ok. My point being is he'll leave them outright if he isn't traded. It's best to get at least some value for him, rather than him leave the franchise high and dry. While it's probably a long shot I'd rather F.O. swing for the fences and go after CP3 with Bynum + Filler rather than settle for Curry/Biedrins.

[Shamizy]

I really don't want Biedrins here.

[The_Trade_Seer]

if you think bynum can get us cp3, then youre dreaming.

dont know what else to tell you.

Naw dude, Bynum and filler could easily net us CP3. I've covered this in detail before for the huge CP3 fan who posted and he understood my post perfectly.

Our competition for CP3 is Orlando, New York and the Clips ... New York has nothing to offer and will hope CP# is a FA so they can sign him outright ... Orlando's best offer would be a garbage package featuring Jameer Nelson ... I don't care if Bynum has only plaed 25 games a year, the Hornets would rather have Bynum then Nelson any day. That leaves the Clips are our only legit competition ... they could offer Mo Williams, Eric Gordon, Kamaan, cash and future picks for CP3 and Okafor which is a solid offer but one without any real star power ... Kamaan is average, Mo Williams is an average player with a bad contract and Eric Gordon has top 5 SG potential ... nice, but nothing like the top-2 center potential Bynum offers.

[Jetset]

I wouldn't go as far to say it could "easily" be done, but you've got to strongly consider it if you're NOH.

[Doormatt]

the clippers could offer Minnys 2012 pick AND eric bledsoe on top of gordon+filler. im sorry, but that is A LOT better than what the lakers could offer. a lotto pick in a great draft, a nice young PG, a SG with great potential, and the ability to take back a bad contract, such as okafor.

and the hornets, as well as the rest of the league, certainly care that bynum has played ONE full season his entire career. teams just cant afford for him to be missing large chunks like that, it reduces his value. if he were to play the entire season next year, i could see an argument for his value being closer to this, but not now.

[chefy]

what you guys think of courtney lee?

I like his game, has high bball iq, good shooter, can penetrate, solid passer/playmaker, good defender and hes still young. since his magic days, I've always thought he'll be a good fit here, playing a combo guard role. his value is kind of low right now, so we might actually have a chance of snatching him from the rockets.

[MoLakers]

According to the Minnesota Star Tribune, Zgoda says that flynn almost certainly will be traded this month. since they got rubio, ridnour etc.. what do you guys think about getting some flynn on this team? cuz we NEED a pg. he's a fiery competitor (ex. syracuse v connecticut), small.. but quick. can hit a 3 a game.. maybe more with the attention others will get on this team. he aint great right now but he has a lot of potential imo.. and we can get him on the cheap. thoughts?

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/122994133.html

[LApwnd]

what you guys think of courtney lee?

I like his game, has high bball iq, good shooter, can penetrate, solid passer/playmaker, good defender and hes still young. since his magic days, I've always thought he'll be a good fit here, playing a combo guard role. his value is kind of low right now, so we might actually have a chance of snatching him from the rockets.

I like but unless we come at him at a high price tag, Hou can match any lowball offers. Considering we're still in need of a solid PG I dont think we'll have the money to pry away Lee from Hou unless they are interested in Sasha TPE

[chefy]

I think a future 1st pick + an expiring(brown?) for lee and a future 2nd pick would do.


Rockets have Kmart and Budinger already filling up his position so I would say getting him wouldn't be too hard. Plus if they draft another guard in the upcoming draft, our chances would be much higher.

[gus26]

i think he had an off year last year due to injury... and this would be the perfect opportunity for the lakers to take a chance on the cheap... if they could get him for that sasha TPE and maybe a couple of the 4 2nd round picks we have I don't think twice... kid was 2nd team all rookie the yr before last... and he struggled in minisota where they were running the triangle which is not generally a pg stat friendly system... (just look at fish) next year the show isn't running the triangle and are going to more of a spurs 2003 system... where if you remember a second year 20 yr old parker was the perfect complement to the twin towers....

flynn is 22... super young not quite ready to start... perfect back up to fisher...

as long as we're dealing with minny i do odom, artest and 2 2nd round picks, with a future 1st for flynn and the number 2 pick...

well MAYBE i do that trade...

[The_Trade_Seer]

the clippers could offer Minnys 2012 pick AND eric bledsoe on top of gordon+filler. im sorry, but that is A LOT better than what the lakers could offer. a lotto pick in a great draft, a nice young PG, a SG with great potential, and the ability to take back a bad contract, such as okafor.

You have to understand that in order for the Clips to take back Okafor's bad contract they will have to give up one of their own in Mo Williams which the Hornets probably will not want. Now, I do agree that if they throw Bledsoe AND the Wolves 12' #1 into the mix they have a great offer, but I'm not sure they do that. The Clips already made a huge mistake giving up the #1 pick in this draft just to swap Baron for Mo Williams ... they could have had a Kyrie Irving to Blake Griffin combo for the next decade. I'm not so sure they will be willing to include that 12' Wolves pick when they know it could net them an Austin Rivers, Anthony Davis or Harrison Barnes.

and the hornets, as well as the rest of the league, certainly care that bynum has played ONE full season his entire career. teams just cant afford for him to be missing large chunks like that, it reduces his value. if he were to play the entire season next year, i could see an argument for his value being closer to this, but not now.

Bynum's value is as high as it's ever been right now after he was the most consistent and dominan t player on our roster for the first two rounds of the Playoffs. Now is the time to trade him, not after next year.

Anyways, if the Hornets would accept dealing CP3 without adding in a bad contract (Okafor) or two (Ariza) I think the Lakers and Clippers offers would look as follows:

LAKERS: Bynum, Ebanks, Caracter, (4) 11' #2's, (1) 12' #1 and $3mil cash

CLIPPERS: Gordon, Bledsoe, the exp. contracts of Moon and Smith, Clips 12' #1 and $3mil cash

OUTCOME: I think the Lakers deal is better, however if the Clips really include the Wolves 12' #1 they have the better deal.


If the Hornets demand Okafor be included in any CP 3 deals, I think the Lakers and Clippers offers would look as follows:

LAKERS: Bynum, Odom, Ebanks, Caracter, exp. contracts of Brown, Ratliff, Smith, (4) 11' #2's, (1) 12' #1 and $3mil cash

* The Lakers would get the exp. contract of David West who is about to bolt NO anyways in the above deal.

CLIPPERS: Gordon, Bledsoe, Kamaan, Moon, Smith, Clips 12' #1 and $3mil cash

OUTCOME: Again I think the Lakers have the better offer UNLESS the Clips really include that Wolves 2012 #1.

[The_Trade_Seer]

What about just a straight up trade with the Grizzlies ... Bynum, Caracter and Brown for a re-signed Marc Gasol and OJ Mayo ... I'd do that in a heartbeat and think the Grizz may too, especially if Gasol threatens to leave for NY, Washinton, the Clippers, etc. Bynum would be the perfect C to play next to Z-Bo and Brown would probably be happy to sign long-term with the Grizzlies and would be a capable replacement for Mayo and probably better for their chemistry.

Do it Mitch!

[KingLakers]

I dont think he'll be cheap it'll probably cost at least a pick and one of our vets Blake, Brown. I still think its better the Lakers make a serious push to get Felton.

[LApwnd]

2012 #1 and the TPE from Sasha.

[eckoner]

i like Felton obviously but i dont know if we have what it takes to get him without over paying!
Flynn seems to be pretty gettable but the difference is Felton is clearly a starter and Flynn is not