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[2011 Draft Thread Pt 3] - NY To TradeUp? (Update Top Pg 22)

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New "Down to the Wire" Combine Poll - Who Should the Knicks Take a 17?

Klay Thompson
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18%
Josh Selby
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18%
Kenneth Faried
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10%
Marshon Brooks
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28%
Someone Else (at 17)
13
13%
Trade Up
10
10%
Trade Down
3
3%
Trade Out
1
1%
 
Total votes: 104

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Post#141 » by Ralphie96 » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:33 pm

how do they KNOW jimmer will be there @ 12??

its too early to tell but if you really wanted a player...you dont take that chance.
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Post#142 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:37 pm

magnumt wrote:
Knicked_Up wrote:
magnumt wrote:Unless they go PG with their 1st Pick (like say Walker or Knight), then they'll go SG or Center with their 2nd Pick.

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The kid will sell tons of tickets, I don't see them taking Knight or Walker when they know they can get Jimmer at 15.


It's the Jazz. You never know what the f' they'll do in regards to the Draft. :lol:


:lol: There's actually a pretty good chance they take a white guy if given the opportunity.

They've had 12 1st round picks in the last decade.

With those 12 picks they've drafted 5 white guys which is 42% (and that doesn't include Kris Humphries or Deron Williams :lol: ), which is pretty large considering the league on the whole is 18% white.
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Post#143 » by Marty McFly » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:44 pm

@alanhahn: I asked Jimmer if he would have stayed in the draft last year if Knicks made first-round guarantee. Knicks didn't have a pick. #fb a minute ago

@alanhahn: Carmelo Anthony, who said he wanted to be involved in front office decisions, was in on the predraft workouts and addressed the players. 3 minutes ago


@alanhahn: Jimmer says Knicks and Jazz best fits for him, includes Suns. The kid is as polished as they come media-wise. 11 minutes ago

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Post#144 » by ITGM » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:45 pm

nyshakespeare wrote:Image

Pic of Jimmer via Hahn's Twitter


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Ooo Yeaaaa Jackpot!
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Post#145 » by magnumt » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:46 pm

^Gallo was equally as posh with the Media as well. IF we get Jimmer, I can see the fans loving him like they did Gallo (after booing both on Draft Night of course). :D

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Post#146 » by Pharmcat » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:46 pm

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@alanhahn: I asked Jimmer if he would have stayed in the draft last year if Knicks made first-round guarantee. Knicks didn't have a pick. #fb a minute ago

@alanhahn: Carmelo Anthony, who said he wanted to be involved in front office decisions, was in on the predraft workouts and addressed the players. 3 minutes ago


@alanhahn: Jimmer says Knicks and Jazz best fits for him, includes Suns. The kid is as polished as they come media-wise. 11 minutes ago

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hes going to UT with their 2nd pick
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Post#147 » by StephNYKurry » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:47 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Gary McGhee

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Post#148 » by StephNYKurry » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:48 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
REVOLVER wrote:
@alanhahn: I asked Jimmer if he would have stayed in the draft last year if Knicks made first-round guarantee. Knicks didn't have a pick. #fb a minute ago

@alanhahn: Carmelo Anthony, who said he wanted to be involved in front office decisions, was in on the predraft workouts and addressed the players. 3 minutes ago


@alanhahn: Jimmer says Knicks and Jazz best fits for him, includes Suns. The kid is as polished as they come media-wise. 11 minutes ago

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hes going to UT with their 2nd pick


If Utah takes Kemba or Brandon Knight at 3...they will not draft Jimmer at 12
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Post#149 » by mrpoetryNmotion » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:51 pm

2010 wrote:The Jazz always draft someone either white or mad lightskin, which is completely oxymoronic being that their franchise name is The JAZZ and the blackest thing in the NBA is their coach, Ty Corbin. (Don't ban me, all things said in jest).


Do you still think the Knicks are going to draft Justin Harper with the 17th pick?
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Post#150 » by magnumt » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:58 pm

Pharmcat wrote:hes going to UT with their 2nd pick


See my reply here: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1113963&start=120#p28195859

There's no garuntee of that. He could go high (doubt it) or lower. A Team could also Trade Up to grab him (or another guy) and shake up the Draft Boards (happens EVERY Year).

From what I've read on the Jazz Board, they have NOT worked out any high profile names yet (only like 1-3 MAX). BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT, they have worked out (and scheduled workouts for MANY guys who are in the 17-35 Range).

So, either they're looking to buy another lower Pick. OR, they have a Trade lined up for something in that Range.

They've been looking at 2-Guards A LOT too. :(

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Post#151 » by magnumt » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:59 pm

Pharmcat wrote:hes going to UT with their 2nd pick


See my reply here: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1113963&start=120#p28195859

There's no garuntee of that. He could go high (doubt it) or lower. A Team could also Trade Up to grab him (or another guy) and shake up the Draft Boards (happens EVERY Year).

From what I've read on the Jazz Board, they have NOT worked out any high profile names yet (only like 1-3 MAX). BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT, they have worked out (and scheduled workouts for MANY guys who are in the 17-35 Range).

So, either they're looking to buy another lower Pick. OR, they have a Trade lined up for something in that Range.

They've been looking at 2-Guards A LOT too. :(

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C: Pau Gasol (32) / Noah (16) / Felicio


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Post#152 » by j4remi » Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:59 pm

REVOLVER wrote:
@alanhahn: I asked Jimmer if he would have stayed in the draft last year if Knicks made first-round guarantee. Knicks didn't have a pick. #fb a minute ago

@alanhahn: Carmelo Anthony, who said he wanted to be involved in front office decisions, was in on the predraft workouts and addressed the players. 3 minutes ago


@alanhahn: Jimmer says Knicks and Jazz best fits for him, includes Suns. The kid is as polished as they come media-wise. 11 minutes ago

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/ ... z1O8beIA8n


I REALLY love the Melo tweet. How awesome is that and where's the guy who was trying to say Melo only cares about endorsing his products on twitter and that he's not about winning? This is AGL!
PG- Haliburton | Schroder | Sasser
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Post#153 » by moocow007 » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:00 pm

2010 wrote:The Jazz always draft someone either white or mad lightskin, which is completely oxymoronic being that their franchise name is The JAZZ and the blackest thing in the NBA is their coach, Ty Corbin. (Don't ban me, all things said in jest).


On light-skinned-ness...if they end up taking Brandon Knight 3rd, it's quite possible that Klay Thompson will be their pick at 12. All the talk about the Jazz needing a PG the reality is that they also need a SG. Their starting SG this pass season was Raja Bell (who at 35 years old is coming off his worst statistical season since early in his career and is really more suited as a backup).
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Post#154 » by Marty McFly » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:00 pm

j4remi wrote:
REVOLVER wrote:
@alanhahn: I asked Jimmer if he would have stayed in the draft last year if Knicks made first-round guarantee. Knicks didn't have a pick. #fb a minute ago

@alanhahn: Carmelo Anthony, who said he wanted to be involved in front office decisions, was in on the predraft workouts and addressed the players. 3 minutes ago


@alanhahn: Jimmer says Knicks and Jazz best fits for him, includes Suns. The kid is as polished as they come media-wise. 11 minutes ago

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/ ... z1O8beIA8n


I REALLY love the Melo tweet. How awesome is that and where's the guy who was trying to say Melo only cares about endorsing his products on twitter and that he's not about winning? This is AGL!



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Post#155 » by magnumt » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:05 pm

moocow007 wrote:On light-skinned-ness...if they end up taking Brandon Knight 3rd, it's quite possible that Klay Thompson will be their pick at 12. All the talk about the Jazz needing a PG the reality is that they also need a SG. Their starting SG this pass season was Raja Bell (who at 35 years old is coming off his worst statistical season since early in his career and is really more suited as a backup).


See this post: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1113963&p=28196366#p28196351

I agree Moo, and SG is one area they're targeting BIG TIME.

I can see them (the Jazz) go:

    High Lotto Pick: PG (Knight or Walker)
    Low Lotto Pick: SG (Thompson, or another guy like Brooks)
    Buy or Trade for Low 1st Rounder/Early 2nd Rounder: Big Man Who Fell)

Their Board here on RGM (see the link above for what I'm referring to) thinks that something may be up with them (Utah).

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Post#156 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:05 pm

It'd be a really lucky day for us if he dropped
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Post#157 » by Fury » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:06 pm

Melo wanted all that money so he can buy picks at the draft.
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Post#158 » by Marty McFly » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:06 pm

@alanhahn: Thompson shot it very well from NBA 3. Said he made 20 of 25 in the shooting drills. Jimmer hit 19 of 25. 4 minutes ago

@alanhahn: Klay Thompson on Marshon Brooks : "He'd fit in well in New York because he's got that street game." 5 minutes ago

@alanhahn: Jimmer has three workouts left on his schedule: Kings, Jazz and Suns. He worked out for Pacers on Tuesday. 17 minutes ago

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Post#159 » by defjux21 » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:14 pm

moocow007 wrote:
2010 wrote:The Jazz always draft someone either white or mad lightskin, which is completely oxymoronic being that their franchise name is The JAZZ and the blackest thing in the NBA is their coach, Ty Corbin. (Don't ban me, all things said in jest).


On light-skinned-ness...if they end up taking Brandon Knight 3rd, it's quite possible that Klay Thompson will be their pick at 12. All the talk about the Jazz needing a PG the reality is that they also need a SG. Their starting SG this pass season was Raja Bell (who at 35 years old is coming off his worst statistical season since early in his career and is really more suited as a backup).

Interesting evaluation on team needs, but there's no way Utah is passing Jimmer up like that. After Deron going, they need to sell some semblance of hope to their fanbase - especially in what appears to be a lockout-shortened season next year where fans can lose interest, and the team loses significant revenue potential. Jimmer will be picked out of the sake of their ownership really.
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Post#160 » by 2010 » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:15 pm

mrpoetryNmotion wrote:
2010 wrote:The Jazz always draft someone either white or mad lightskin, which is completely oxymoronic being that their franchise name is The JAZZ and the blackest thing in the NBA is their coach, Ty Corbin. (Don't ban me, all things said in jest).


Do you still think the Knicks are going to draft Justin Harper with the 17th pick?


With all the SG's shooting upwards draft-stock wise and considering Harper wouldn't be a starting candidate for us...no.

This takes nothing away from JHarper though. He's very skilled has a basketball pedigree due to his father, and he is a good kid who measured as expected at the combine and even surpasses expectations by boasting the second highest reps in the benchpress, only topped by Derrick Williams. Kid is skilled and STRONG. Just needs to play more aggressively with regards to his mentality. However, he's still in play if we can buy another pick (late first-rounder or early 2nd).

All signs point to us now drafting a SG who can hopefully compete against Fields, who's really a natural SF and possibly push him to a 6th man role. Or go for a PG who can be a backup to Billups and be groomed to possibly replace him if we can't get Chris Paul.
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