2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3...

[Rafael122]

Wouldn't be surprised at all if we traded all of our picks to move up (or even take a late round pick or something).

I know someone said 2-3 pages back about having too many rooks on the team and I agree with that. This team can't get any younger, eventually you're going to have to use your assets to get veteranhelp or move up and get one player. Guys like the Morris Twins, Klay Thompson, the Jimmer, Singleton...those guys won't be there at 18, so who are we going to be left with? If you've got the chance to package both your first round picks and move up, even if its just 3 sots, do it. I'd rather have 1 very good rookie than 3 average ones.

[tontoz]

Both DX and NBADraft.net have Marcus going top 10.

This from Ford on May 9..

" The Morris twins are among the most intriguing prospects I've seen in the draft. Later this week, ESPN will be running a column I wrote about the likely possibility of their being separated for the first time in their life and their deep desire to be drafted by the same team.

But for now, the focus is on their workout. So how did they look? In short -- really, really good.

For starters, I was floored by their ability to shoot the NBA 3. Typically, that's a major adjustment for draft prospects and, at this early stage, even good shooters are throwing up bricks as they adjust to the difference. But both Morris twins are stroking the ball effortlessly from the big boys' line. A combination of strength and picture-perfect shooting form gives them a great advantage in making the transition.

Other than shooting ability, there are a number of differences. I thought Marcus had quicker feet and was more explosive off the bounce than I saw at Kansas. He showed off a pretty impressive arsenal of skills for a 6-foot-9, 235-pound forward. He's clearly the more skilled and aggressive of the two players.

Who will go first? Most likely Marcus because of the skill level, but it really depends on what you want. If you want a pure post player, rebounding or defense, Markieff looks like the better prospect. If you want buckets or a hybrid 3 or 4, Marcus is the better choice.

I think Marcus' range right now is picks 5 to 15. Markieff is in the 7-17 range.
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Ford has Marcus currently at 11. I am not seeing how he would be such a reach at 6.

[Rafael122]

DX's Tweet:

Sources say Washington & Phoenix have been the most active teams trying to trade up for Derrick Williams. T'Wolves want a "veteran big man."

We've got no veteran big man, unless they want Blatche.

[LyricalRico]

DX's Tweet:

Sources say Washington & Phoenix have been the most active teams trying to trade up for Derrick Williams. T'Wolves want a "veteran big man."

We've got no veteran big man, unless they want Blatche.

Would they want Gortat? Maybe we can send Blatche+Seraphin for Gortat, and then Gortat+6 for #2? Would PHX even agree, knowing we're competing with them for that pick?

[Rafael122]

Probably not, and I would assume Minnesota would want someone on the cheap. Just because they have cap space doesn't mean they are willing to grab a team's bad contract. The only thing that we can trump Phoenix on are picks. Probably add a young player and that's it. I don't know. I don't know. The tweet didn't say if the Wizards would give up all their picks or what.

Then you have to figure out if Williams will be a 3 or a 4 on this team. And if he's a 4, what do you do with Blatche, if he's a 3, do you move Lewis to the bench? If we get Williams though, you've got a rock solid core of Wall/Williams/McGee.

[closg00]

DX's Tweet:

Sources say Washington & Phoenix have been the most active teams trying to trade up for Derrick Williams. T'Wolves want a "veteran big man."

We've got no veteran big man, unless they want Blatche.

Hard to imagine they'd want Dray, perhaps they have good memories of the 7-Day Dray. Nick perhaps? GREAT!! to hear we are trying to move-up

[tontoz]

DX's Tweet:

Sources say Washington & Phoenix have been the most active teams trying to trade up for Derrick Williams. T'Wolves want a "veteran big man."

We've got no veteran big man, unless they want Blatche.

Tru dat, but one man's trash can be another man's treasure. Also this is Minny who isn't exactly known for smart moves.

Encouraging that they are looking to trade up.


Edit for closg00: Nick can't be traded since he isn't under contract.

[fishercob]

DX's Tweet:

Sources say Washington & Phoenix have been the most active teams trying to trade up for Derrick Williams. T'Wolves want a "veteran big man."

We've got no veteran big man, unless they want Blatche.

I knew we should have kept Hilton Armstrong!

[TGW]

DX's Tweet:

Sources say Washington & Phoenix have been the most active teams trying to trade up for Derrick Williams. T'Wolves want a "veteran big man."

We've got no veteran big man, unless they want Blatche.

I knew we should have kept Pech!

Fixed

[Jay81]

how about Blatche and our 6th, and 18th for Beasley,Flynn their 2nd

[LyricalRico]

Then you have to figure out if Williams will be a 3 or a 4 on this team. And if he's a 4, what do you do with Blatche, if he's a 3, do you move Lewis to the bench? If we get Williams though, you've got a rock solid core of Wall/Williams/McGee.

Hey, I tried to solve the Blatche problem with the PHX trade.

As far as I'm concerned, we're still looking for both a PF and SF of the future. So whichever one Williams turns out to be will work for us IMO.

The good thing about this is that nobody is really offering what Minny is asking for. Aside from the Lakers getting smitten enough with Walker or Knight to offer up Bynum, I don't see anybody offering a big that's worth the #2. So really the only thing they can do is move down and pick up some spare parts.

And I'm not sure they wouldn't add some salary, since they could always package it with some of their own prospects in consolidation deals once the new cap comes out.

[JonathanJoseph]

DX's Tweet:

Sources say Washington & Phoenix have been the most active teams trying to trade up for Derrick Williams. T'Wolves want a "veteran big man."

We've got no veteran big man, unless they want Blatche.

Would they want Gortat? Maybe we can send Blatche+Seraphin for Gortat, and then Gortat+6 for #2? Would PHX even agree, knowing we're competing with them for that pick?

Wow. I just don't think outside of draft season a trade like this would ever be suggested. You are talking about trading Blatche, who is a capable NBA big man with upside AND a big man prospect for a 6'8'' SF/PF? Or Blatche, Seraphin and #6?

That seems like an awful lot to move up a few draft slots. You'd have to be pretty certain that Williams is an NBA all-star caliber player.

[JonathanJoseph]

how about Blatche and our 6th, and 18th for Beasley,Flynn their 2nd

Now THAT is a creative idea. I like the thought process.

[closg00]

Is moving-up to #2 to ensure getting Williams, or Kanter?

[J-Blaze]

how about Blatche and our 6th, and 18th for Beasley,Flynn their 2nd

I would LOVEEE that!

[Wizardspride]

Is moving-up to #2 to ensure getting Williams, or Kanter?

Williams.

[thinker07]

I find the whole "value proposition" for a pick to be a bit overstated as a draft strategy. I understand the concept of trying to draft value, but people really seem to go overboard with the I'd love "x" player at pick# 10, but I'd hate the same player at pick# 6 argument. Beyond anything else, I think we should draft players that we think can play and contribute for us. For my taste THIS year, I much rather get a safe double than to take a huge swing where you have a 20% chance of a home run and a 80% chance of a strikeout.

[LyricalRico]

how about Blatche and our 6th, and 18th for Beasley,Flynn their 2nd

Now THAT is a creative idea. I like the thought process.

First, I don't see how the Wolves possibly benefit from that deal. Second, Beasley might be the only guy I want LESS than Blatche. Third, Flynn isn't the guy I want backing up Wall. IMO the Wiz backup PG should be a vet who can defend, not an undersized scoring point guard. Pass.

But that could still be somewhat of a starting point in a potential 3-way deal.

Wiz out: Blatche+6+filler (Seraphin and/or 18)
Wiz in: 2+contract (maybe Wes Johnson or Martell Webster)

Wolves out: 2+contracts (some combo of Johnson, Webster, Flynn, etc)
Wolves in: 6+vet

Team C out: vet that Minny wants
Team C in: Blatche+contracts

Just gotta find a team that A) has what Minny wants and B) wants a combo of Blatche and Minny players. To the Checker!

[Dark Faze]

Jordan Crawford/Seraphin for Brad Miller?

Brad Miller/6th/18th for 2nd and Flynn?

[Ed Wood]

I like that the first part of that trade is trading two young players the organization apparently likes for Brad "old before his time, old in his time" Miller, the second half is Minnesota saying "no" and Washington ending up having traded two prospects for Brad Miller.

The 'sota swap involving bringing in Beasley would create an explosively terrible defensive frontcourt, plus Beasley has three seasons worth of evidence attesting to the fact that he can shoot a lot, not be very efficient, and get worse at rebounding every year. I don't especially want to hang on to Blatche, but a swap for Beasley isn't really what I'm looking for either.