2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3...

[closg00]

So, be warned: Stay away from the workout wonders and the guys who reshaped their bodies in the 8 weeks between the NCAA season and the Draft evaluations. Yeah, I'm lookin' at you, Jordan Williams.

I remembered your post when I read about Austin Freeman slimming down for the workouts
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

[Jay81]

Anyone see the article where brooks is being compared to Kobe Bryant?

[keynote]

^

chadfordinsider Chad Ford
If Brooks had "a lot" of Kobe in his game ... he'd be No. 1 on our Big Board, not 19. Promise.

[hands11]

Agreed.

Draft players who you know have to set skills you are looking for. Some upside is ok, but we should not go for more upside then skill with the first two picks.

Since we really only need two draft picks given all the other pieces we have, we could swing more on the third pick. I said could. Not should.

I still like Justin with our third pick but if JT was still there, it may be worth getting him and sending him to the D League.


Crap. Justin Harper moved up to the first round on DraftX

[SUPERBALLMAN]

How about Blatche, #6, #18 to Twolves for Wes Johnson + #2?

Minn moves Johnson who disapointed, adds Blatche and the 18 in exchange for moving 4 spots.

DC moves up to 2 for DWilliams, adds Johnson for Nick Young insurance. Can still add another player at 34,

[LyricalRico]

How about Blatche, #6, #18 to Twolves for Wes Johnson + #2?

That was one of the first few deals proposed after the lottery, and I still think it's got a chance. Minny would have to see Blatche as a starting center but with Kahn, anything is possible.

[verbal8]

Jordan Crawford/Seraphin for Brad Miller?

Brad Miller/6th/18th for 2nd and Flynn?

I don't think Brad Miller is what the Twolves are looking for. If the Wizards deal for Miller, I hope they are moving Blatche and getting an incentive.

[NbdyBeatsTheWiz]

Well Blatche had 20/7/7 the last game we played Minny, and 33/13 before that when we played them in 2009-2010.

Hopefully those games made a LASTING impression...

[Ruzious]

Agreed.

Draft players who you know have to set skills you are looking for. Some upside is ok, but we should not go for more upside then skill with the first two picks.

Since we really only need two draft picks given all the other pieces we have, we could swing more on the third pick. I said could. Not should.

I still like Justin with our third pick but if JT was still there, it may be worth getting him and sending him to the D League.


Crap. Justin Harper moved up to the first round on DraftX

And he's still vastly underrated, imo. After Kanter, he's the next player I'd target in this draft. If he's there at 18, pick him - I don't care where internet draft guru's have him; he's a bargain at 18. I'd be fine with Vucevic or Lynch there, but Justin Harper is the one I'd put a bullseye on.

[Ruzious]

Well Blatche had 20/7/7 the last game we played Minny, and 33/13 before that when we played them in 2009-2010.

Hopefully those games made a LASTING impression...

Interesting, he has put up great numbers against Minny. And with a team that's been as poorly run as them, you never know - especially with a player like Blatche - who's been such a tease.

Thing is, I'd rather have the 3rd pick than the 2nd pick, because Kanter's the player I want more than Williams. Otoh, I definitely would not complain about getting Williams.

Oh, Minny is not going to give away Wes Johnson. If they were, I'd love to have him - because he'd be a fine complement to Wall - playing SF.

[NbdyBeatsTheWiz]

Well Blatche had 20/7/7 the last game we played Minny, and 33/13 before that when we played them in 2009-2010.

Hopefully those games made a LASTING impression...

Interesting, he has put up great numbers against Minny. And with a team that's been as poorly run as them, you never know - especially with a player like Blatche - who's been such a tease.

Thing is, I'd rather have the 3rd pick than the 2nd pick, because Kanter's the player I want more than Williams. Otoh, I definitely would not complain about getting Williams.

Oh, Minny is not going to give away Wes Johnson. If they were, I'd love to have him - because he'd be a fine complement to Wall - playing SF.

I'd prefer Kanter to Williams too. But I also prefer Williams VASTLY more than anyone we'd take at 6. The jump to that tier of players would be huge regardless of the player we take.

If we could pick up Flynn for peanuts I wouldn't mind fleecing him as a backup to Wall. He showed promise his rookie season before his hip(IIRC) injury derailed him last year. And he's only 22.

[TGW]

Jordan Crawford/Seraphin for Brad Miller?

Brad Miller/6th/18th for 2nd and Flynn?

You're not fooling me Wes.

[nate33]

Jordan Crawford/Seraphin for Brad Miller?

Brad Miller/6th/18th for 2nd and Flynn?

You are aware that it is 2011, not 2004, right?

[Ruzious]

After we trade for Brad Miller, we need to go after Webber, Bibby, and Stoy. I'd go after Doug Christie, too, but his wife won't let him play.

[closg00]

Is moving-up to #2 to ensure getting Williams, or Kanter?

Williams.

Perhaps not, perhaps Kanter is the real target.

At 6-foot-11 and 260 pounds, Turkish center and NBA Draft prospect Enes Kanter has NBA size despite having just turned 19 years old. Though the Cleveland Cavaliers may hope he's available when they pick fourth overall in this year's Draft, it's becoming increasingly likely he'll be off the board.

"We expect him to go within the first two picks," Mike Naiditch, an NBA agent close to Kanter's agent, Max Ergul, told Adam Zagoria. "We expect him to go in the top 2, maybe 3, but we don’t think he’s going to go past that."

http://cleveland.sbnation.com/cleveland ... -cavaliers

[Ruzious]

Fwiw, per Chad Ford:

Brandon Knight worked out alone in Sacramento today. They love him. No way he’s there at 7. Kemba vs. Jimmer next week in Sacramento.

At the very least, Jimmer v Kemba should be entertaining. I'd pay to see that. Jimmer's a bit of a wild card. I think he sneaks into the top 10. And that'd theoretically be good for the Wiz, since Utah couldn't plan on getting him at 12 - nudging them to pick Knight or Walker at 3. Go Jimmer!

[dobrojim]

is it just me or does anyone else agree that most of the players
invited to these workouts have little to no chance of being drafted
by us or maybe anyone else either. I can't remember too many
of the players we've had in that I thought had a chance to make
our team or anyone else's. Maybe I'm not paying close enough
attention. Who have we worked out that we might actually draft
at 6?

uneasy feeling about the draft - would like to believe dx that
we could get Kanter and have a shot at Singleton. Then read
other places that Kanter will be gone 1-2 or maybe 3rd.

[Ruzious]

is it just me or does anyone else agree that most of the players
invited to these workouts have little to no chance of being drafted
by us or maybe anyone else either. I can't remember too many
of the players we've had in that I thought had a chance to make
our team or anyone else's. Maybe I'm not paying close enough
attention. Who have we worked out that we might actually draft
at 6?

uneasy feeling about the draft - would like to believe dx that
we could get Kanter and have a shot at Singleton. Then read
other places that Kanter will be gone 1-2 or maybe 3rd.

Agreed about the first part. A lot of these guys they're likely looking at as potential summer league invitees and/or training camp invitees. On the top players, they've probably already talked to who they're interested in, and there have been many opportunities to watch them. They don't necessarily need to have them here to do any more due diligence on them.

Thinking we can get Kanter at 6 is a fantasy - there's almost zero chance, imo. His knees checked out fine, he's measured out well, he's impressed everyone. Don't believe DX.

[dobrojim]

re Kanter - I guess the solace in maybe not getting him after seeing
him fall on DX is that DX thinks highly enough of the other guys.
Of course they could be wrong about them.

[Rafael122]

Givony went on a tweeting rant the other day basically saying the workouts, for the most part are meaningless(I'm using this word). Any good scouting department would have a binder full of info on these guys, so these workouts are probably just to put any finishing touches, or check out guys who may be invited to Summer League.

I wouldn't read too much into the workouts. If I recall, we didn't even work Seraphin out.