TUF 13 Finale thread Sat June 4,2011 on Spike ...

Nemesis21 · Post #1 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:50 am

Saturday June 4, 2011 9 PM ET

Ramsey Nijem vs Tony Ferguson
Clay Guida vs Anthony Pettis
Kyle Kingsbury vs Fabio Maldonado
Ed Herman vs Tim Credeur
Chuck O'Neil vs Chris Cope

Jeremy Stephens vs Dan Downes
Josh Grispi vs George Roop
Scott Jorgensen vs Ken Stone
Reuben Duran vs Fransico Rivera

Not yet official,
Shamar Bailey vs Ryan McGillivray
Clay Harvison vs Justin Edwards

Can't wait for Guida/Pettis !

IMO Grispi and Stephens fights should be on main card instead of Credeur and Cope fights.

Post #2 » by **CPT** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:27 am

How is Grispi vs. Roop taking a backseat to Herman/Credeur and Stephens/Downes (who?)?

Guida vs. Pettis should be very interesting. I give a lot of credit to Pettis for not trying to sit on the unification fight and instead taking a fight against a tough guy like Guida. Hopefully he wins though. Watching Guida hump his leg for 2 rounds out of 3 and then going on to get a title shot is a scenario I don't want to see.

Cammo101 · Post #3 » by **Cammo101** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:31 pm

Guida vs. Pettis has fight of the year candidate written all over it.

cowboyronnie · Post #4 » by **cowboyronnie** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:15 pm

Lots of WEC!

Downes is exciting, CPT. He's super young (like 20 or so, I believe). He fought Horodecki on short-notice a year ago and really toughed it out.

He's also a Duke Roufus fighter.

Post #5 » by **CPT** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:20 pm

That I can understand then I guess, because Stephens is usually great to watch too...but Herman/Credeur?

It's not even really about which fight will be exciting. Grispi had a title shot in the bag like 6 months ago, and Roop just lost a title eliminator to Hominick. Yeah, they are coming off losses, but so are Herman/Credeur, and neither of them ever have, nor ever will be, in the title picture.

They've got to get the BWs and FWs out there on main cards to show everybody what they can do.

REDDzone · Post #6 » by **REDDzone** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:51 pm

CPT wrote:They've got to get the BWs and FWs out there on main cards to show everybody what they can do.

REDDzone · Post #7 » by **REDDzone** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:00 pm

Downes is the scrappy guy who looks like a 15 year old who was beaten by Horodecki.

He is fun to watch, but on paper it seems like Stephens should school him.

Nemesis21 · Post #8 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:15 pm

I don't think that is 100% how the lineup will go, was kind of guessing. Will update after tomorrow's TUF episode.

Post #9 » by **spykelee** » Wed Jun 1, 2011 1:39 pm

Post #10 » by **spykelee** » Wed Jun 1, 2011 2:00 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:I don't think that is 100% how the lineup will go, was kind of guessing. Will update after tomorrow's TUF episode.

Fight card looks like this:

Bantamweight Bout 3 Rounds
Francisco Rivera Reuben Duran

Bantamweight Bout 3 Rounds
Ken Stone Scott Jorgensen

Welterweight Bout 3 Rounds
Justin Edwards Clay Harvison

Welterweight Bout 3 Rounds
Shamar Bailey Ryan McGillivray

Featherweight Bout 3 Rounds
George Roop Josh Grispi

Lightweight Bout 3 Rounds
Danny Downes Jeremy Stephens

Welterweight Bout 3 Rounds
Semi's fighter Semi's fighter

Light Heavyweight Bout 3 Rounds
Fabio Maldonado Kyle Kingsbury

Middleweight Bout 3 Rounds
Tim Credeur Ed Herman

Lightweight Bout 3 Rounds
Anthony Pettis Clay Guida

Welterweight Final Bout 3 Rounds
Semi finalist Semi Finalist

Post #11 » by **spykelee** » Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:55 pm

and to add to my above post... Spoiler alert:

TUF finale is Tony Ferguson VS Ramsey Nijem and the other TUF fight on the card is Chris Cope VS Chuck O'neill

Posey H8er · Post #12 » by **Posey H8er** » Wed Jun 1, 2011 11:35 pm

there is no chance Pettis vs Guida will not be an exciting fight

Nemesis21 · Post #13 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Jun 2, 2011 12:05 am

Posey H8er wrote:there is no chance Pettis vs Guida will not be an exciting fight

FOTY candidate there.

Post #14 » by **CPT** » Thu Jun 2, 2011 3:01 pm

I think there's actually a very real chance that Guida vs. Pettis disappoints. If Guida gets his way, he'll hump the **** out of Pettis' leg en route to a decision. If he doesn't, Pettis will embarrass him on the feet. He's not Diego Sanchez. Maybe their breakneck pace will save it, but unless I'm underestimating Pettis' wrestling or Guida's striking, I think it could be a pretty one sided affair. I'm just not actually sure which side, which makes it interesting to me.

The TUF fights have been made, and if you don't want to read about them, read no further...

***SPOILERS****

For a **** season, Ramsey vs. Tony is a pretty decent final. Almost like a homeless man's version of Guida/Pettis, with an interesting clash of styles, and both guys having some big holes in their games. It might be the hardest finale in recent memory for me to pick a winner in, but I might just not be thinking hard enough.

Chris Cope vs. Chuck O'Neil is barely a Strikeforce Challengers level fight, and should not be on the main broadcast ahead of guys like Grispi, Roop (though to be fair, I wouldn't have bet on him becoming anything coming off of TUF either), Jorgensen, or Stephens. Maybe it will be a good fight, but their ability is just not at the UFC level IMO.

Nemesis21 · Post #15 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:22 pm

Nijem over Ferguson
Guida over Pettis via UD
Kingsbury over Maldonado
Herman over Credeur
Cope over O'Neil

Stephens over Downes via KO
Grispi over Roop via Subm
Jorgensen over Stone
Duran over Rivera
Bailey over McGillivray
Harvison over Edwards

Bernman · Post #16 » by **Bernman** » Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:21 pm

Going into this fight, I'm liking the way Pettis looks physically; strong but lean.

More importantly, I'm liking the way he sounds (which was a concern); confident but focused.

Pettis' best self vs. Guida's best self - Pettis has the advantage by a wide margin. He takes this fight by emphatic finish or comfy decision.

Starkiller · Post #17 » by **Starkiller** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:06 pm

Anyone know the lines for Pettis/Guida? I'm thinking they'll both be like -120 or something. If one of them ends up being a + it might be a good bet.

K1NG · Post #18 » by **K1NG** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:16 pm

Starkiller wrote:Anyone know the lines for Pettis/Guida? I'm thinking they'll both be like -120 or something. If one of them ends up being a + it might be a good bet.

Pettis -220
Guida +180

cowboyronnie · Post #19 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 9:52 pm

Jump all over that. ^

Posey H8er · Post #20 » by **Posey H8er** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 3:03 am

my gut is saying Guida too. by the way all the prelims will be streamed on facebook tomorrow night