Ast. Coach talk- IN: Messina, Kuester OUT: Malone, Shaw

Post #41 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:42 pm

dcash4 wrote:brian shaw looks like he's out

mike brown this morning:

I have a list of guys right now and I’m actually in the process of [narrowing] the list down with [Lakers General Manager] Mitch Kupchak and going over the list and, uh, seeing what we can do. But I have a list of top tier guys and he’s not on that list because it’s a very, very short list. I just have to see where I’m able to head in the direction with those guys and then we’ll kind of head from there

I know people here might make a bigger deal out of this but I'm not surprised at all... I'm not sure why Shaw would want another Assistant gig. Especially under Brown.

Post #42 » by **dockingsched** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 12:16 am

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/29750190

looks like malone is going to meet face to face with lacob about the warriors head coaching position. if he gets an offer, no more lakers. if not, then he's pretty much coming to join brown.

BEazy · Post #43 » by **BEazy** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 8:57 am

If not Malone we need to seriously consider TG. I just don't want that weirdo Kuester anywhere near a Laker player.

NOODLESTYLE · Post #44 » by **NOODLESTYLE** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 2:24 am

http://blog.lakers.com/lakers/2011/06/0 ... nt-search/

On Thursday afternoon, Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak met with the team’s new selection for head coach, Mike Brown, to discuss Brown’s plans for his coaching staff.

As Kupchak explained to us just before the meeting, the GM’s role in the process differs depending on the experience level of the coach.

“If it were a rookie coach, you’d sit down and spend more time, give him some guidance,” he said. “With a very veteran coach, you probably don’t get involved at all. Mike is somewhere in between, so at the end of the day, I’m going to defer to Mike.”

With an open dialogue between himself and Kupchak, Brown’s support staff will be completed sooner than later.

“He’s earned the right to put together his own staff,” Kupchak continued. “I’d like to know what he’s thinking, why he’s thinking that way, look at options and talk to him about it. He’s been around now for quite some time, and had great success as a head coach for five years, so you defer to a coach like that. He knows what he’s doing.”

During Brown’s introductory press conference, he more than once expressed eagerness to work with Kupchak, for whom he said he’s long had a great deal of respect. But Brown’s focus during his interview with Kupchak and ownership was not so much about Mike Brown as it was Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Co.

“He had very well thought out, pretty convincing ideas before he came and met with us about how to use our players and increase their effectiveness,” said Kupchak. “He wasn’t trying to sell us on him, he was trying to sell us on his vision for the team, defensively and offensively, versus trying to just say, ‘Hey, I’m your guy.’ He had strong feelings about how to use our personnel.”

Kupchak believes Brown will take equal care while assembling his assistants … thus the autonomy.

BEazy · Post #45 » by **BEazy** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 8:02 pm

YESS!!! WE GOT MESSINA!!!

Jetset · Post #46 » by **Jetset** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 8:12 pm

Italian Coach Ettore Messina has agreed to work for the L.A. Lakers on Coach Mike Brown's staff.

According to Zeno Pisani of Rivista Ufficiale NBA, Italy, a deal was agreed to on Friday. Pisani notes Messina will serve as "consultant to the head coach" in a full-time position.

It would seem Messina will help Brown in a similar capacity that Tex Winter served former Laker Coach Phil Jackson.

Other names linked to the Lakers staff are Chuck Person, John Kuester, Tim Grgurich and Mike Malone, who is first interviewing with the Golden State Warriors for the head coaching job.

Grgurich has been helping the Dallas Mavericks this past year. It may be difficult for the Lakers to pry Tim away from Mark Cuban but Brown and "Grg" have a long-standing relationship.

- Eric Pincus

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=20025

#Scored.

BEazy · Post #47 » by **BEazy** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 8:22 pm

I have a very very good feeling about this coaching sqaud if we can get Grg, Malone, and Person. I'd feel like we'd have the best coaching in the league if we obtained all these guys.

Ettore Messina: Check
Mike Malone: Almost check
Tim Grgurich: In progress; (Hoping Mavericks lose so we can get him)
Chuck Person: In progress (Haven't really heard much news on him).

dr. strangelove · Post #48 » by **dr. strangelove** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 8:25 pm

Messina is overrated.
In Real Madrid, the team spent a fortune acquiring top players, but after two years it was a complete failure.

Jetset · Post #49 » by **Jetset** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 8:27 pm

I can almost guarantee that we'll somehow end up with Kuester in this organization. Unfortunate but it's bound to happen.

iamworthy · Post #50 » by **iamworthy** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 8:35 pm

Jetset wrote:
Italian Coach Ettore Messina has agreed to work for the L.A. Lakers on Coach Mike Brown's staff.

According to Zeno Pisani of Rivista Ufficiale NBA, Italy, a deal was agreed to on Friday. Pisani notes Messina will serve as "consultant to the head coach" in a full-time position.

It would seem Messina will help Brown in a similar capacity that Tex Winter served former Laker Coach Phil Jackson.

Other names linked to the Lakers staff are Chuck Person, John Kuester, Tim Grgurich and Mike Malone, who is first interviewing with the Golden State Warriors for the head coaching job.

Grgurich has been helping the Dallas Mavericks this past year. It may be difficult for the Lakers to pry Tim away from Mark Cuban but Brown and "Grg" have a long-standing relationship.

- Eric Pincus

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=20025

#Scored.

Nice find Jetset

iamworthy · Post #51 » by **iamworthy** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 8:37 pm

I wonder if Kobe worked any of his Italian connections to get this done!

Dr Aki · Post #52 » by **Dr Aki** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 12:33 am

mike brown better not churn out a **** offense. growing pains aside, i'm looking for him to deliver on his three staples of offense.

NOODLESTYLE · Post #53 » by **NOODLESTYLE** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 12:34 am

Video of his team's play:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGpfbpHAwKo[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwpUI9Fa9ek[/youtube]

Mass Rig · Post #54 » by **Mass Rig** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 12:55 am

dr. strangelove wrote:Messina is overrated.

He's only one of the top 10 coaches in the world, after all.

Post #55 » by **Slava** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 1:00 am

Atleast we have a capable assistant to take over if the big guy gets fired in the middle of the season.

Post #56 » by **Kilroy** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 2:53 am

Am I the only one that thinks Brown might have just brought in his potential replacement?

Jetset · Post #57 » by **Jetset** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 3:04 am

Kilroy wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Brown might have just brought in his potential replacement?

It's actually what I'm leaning for.

Post #58 » by **dockingsched** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 3:12 pm

What the heck are the Lakers thinking?

http://www.latimes.com/sports/columnist ... ?track=rss

Shaw was one of three people the Lakers said they interviewed for the coaching job, and the only one who was part of the Lakers family as an assistant coach. Yet as of Friday afternoon, 10 days after they decided to hire Brown, Shaw still had not heard from them.

"It's a little strange, going from 11 years and five championships to essentially being out on the street," Shaw said in a phone interview Friday. "But I can feel good knowing that I did everything possible to represent the Laker organization as well as I could."

A loyal employee even to this strange end, Shaw would not comment on any details of his Lakers situation. He said he had been avoiding media interviews until I phoned him, and was reluctant to speak in anything but general terms.

"I have always held the Lakers in high standing, and I'm not going to change that now," he said.

Mitch tries to explain it, but Plashke brings up a good point

"We have not finalized our coaching staff, so we wanted to wait to talk to Brian until we were sure," a team spokesman said.

This would make sense if Shaw was going to be part of that staff, but, clearly, he's not. By ignoring the important team touchstone that Shaw represents, it seems like the Lakers weren't waiting for something, but erasing something.

iamworthy · Post #59 » by **iamworthy** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 5:04 pm

As of now Hoopsworld is the only media outlet reporting on Messina.

Post #60 » by **Slava** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 6:17 pm

dcash4 wrote:What the heck are the Lakers thinking?

http://www.latimes.com/sports/columnist ... ?track=rss

Shaw was one of three people the Lakers said they interviewed for the coaching job, and the only one who was part of the Lakers family as an assistant coach. Yet as of Friday afternoon, 10 days after they decided to hire Brown, Shaw still had not heard from them.

"It's a little strange, going from 11 years and five championships to essentially being out on the street," Shaw said in a phone interview Friday. "But I can feel good knowing that I did everything possible to represent the Laker organization as well as I could."

A loyal employee even to this strange end, Shaw would not comment on any details of his Lakers situation. He said he had been avoiding media interviews until I phoned him, and was reluctant to speak in anything but general terms.

"I have always held the Lakers in high standing, and I'm not going to change that now," he said.

Mitch tries to explain it, but Plashke brings up a good point

"We have not finalized our coaching staff, so we wanted to wait to talk to Brian until we were sure," a team spokesman said.

This would make sense if Shaw was going to be part of that staff, but, clearly, he's not. By ignoring the important team touchstone that Shaw represents, it seems like the Lakers weren't waiting for something, but erasing something.

Lazenby and Plaschke have been onto this ever since the Mike Brown hiring. They are both very firmly in the Anti-Jimbo camp.