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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#1481 » by doclinkin » Mon Jun 6, 2011 11:52 am

Ruzious wrote:
doclinkin wrote:PART FOUR continues HERE.

The rest of this thread is simply for post padding, mockery of mods, verbal cavorting, similar japes and tomfoolery.

Unless you want to finish your conversation before moving on. That's okay too.

Premature gesticulation. Follow the story of Shnooker and part 4 of the NBA draft here -http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1117467



That'd be postmature gesticulation on my part. Or premature threadjackery on the part of the overeager fishyfish. Unwritten rules cannot be edited! That is why they are unwritten!!!
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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#1482 » by Wizardspride » Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:56 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Ed Wood wrote:Williams to me looks much more like a sure bet than a player I'd expect to become a first division star. To me he resembles a player like Danny Granger as a best case, a very good scorer with solid efficiency who isn't really great or even good at anything else but is respectable across the board. Now Danny Granger would be wonderful to have, and I'd prefer to have Williams rather than any other player in this draft because the relative confidence with which I can project him as a very useful NBA player isn't something I can say about very many guys this year.

On the other hand saying that it's imperative to mortgage the team's future to any significant degree in order to add him because the team can't afford to fall back into first round exit purgatory is a little off in this case because I don't think Williams is a sure bet to accomplish that, and wanting to avoid Indiana's fate specifically is problematic if I'm looking at him as a analog for their best player. Packaging current players (outside of Wall and probably McGee) or picks this year to move up I could get behind, but I'm very leery about packaging future picks on a bad team and with so much uncertainty regarding the NBA as a whole in the near future.

The NBA might be a league of stars but I'm not in love with anyone in this draft and I think I'd prefer to eliminate the team's reliance on bad players (Yi, the backup center rotation, small forward as a position, possibly another guard, kinda Blatche) rather than take a less sure shot at finding a great player and risk falling short and plugging only one of those holes. The team needs to do both, the former seems like the sure bet in this situation.

Basically it seems to me that the best and best run organizations in the NBA have both stars and a lack of scrubs on the roster and particularly in the rotation. I don't think there's much to do about the first but steps can be taken towards the second, and both need to be done.


I could really end up eating my words, because Derrick Williams is smooth on both ends of the court, but he's also a player that got to the line for lot of his offense. In the NBA, he's going to be a stretch four who will depend a lot on his perimeter game, like Boozer. Occasionally, he'll be a post-up SF, and he's going to be very effective on the offensive end IMO.

IMO, Williams seems to be a slightly shorter Antwawn Jamison.

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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#1483 » by Ruzious » Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:59 pm

That's why I have trouble understanding baseball. There're 57,000 items in the unwritten rules book, and I don't get any of em.

Then again, baseball is having their amateur draft today... Go O's - draft Rendon!
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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#1484 » by CaPtaiN eYeSaNo » Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:39 pm

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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#1485 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:51 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Ed Wood wrote:Williams to me looks much more like a sure bet than a player I'd expect to become a first division star. To me he resembles a player like Danny Granger as a best case, a very good scorer with solid efficiency who isn't really great or even good at anything else but is respectable across the board. Now Danny Granger would be wonderful to have, and I'd prefer to have Williams rather than any other player in this draft because the relative confidence with which I can project him as a very useful NBA player isn't something I can say about very many guys this year.

On the other hand saying that it's imperative to mortgage the team's future to any significant degree in order to add him because the team can't afford to fall back into first round exit purgatory is a little off in this case because I don't think Williams is a sure bet to accomplish that, and wanting to avoid Indiana's fate specifically is problematic if I'm looking at him as a analog for their best player. Packaging current players (outside of Wall and probably McGee) or picks this year to move up I could get behind, but I'm very leery about packaging future picks on a bad team and with so much uncertainty regarding the NBA as a whole in the near future.

The NBA might be a league of stars but I'm not in love with anyone in this draft and I think I'd prefer to eliminate the team's reliance on bad players (Yi, the backup center rotation, small forward as a position, possibly another guard, kinda Blatche) rather than take a less sure shot at finding a great player and risk falling short and plugging only one of those holes. The team needs to do both, the former seems like the sure bet in this situation.

Basically it seems to me that the best and best run organizations in the NBA have both stars and a lack of scrubs on the roster and particularly in the rotation. I don't think there's much to do about the first but steps can be taken towards the second, and both need to be done.


I could really end up eating my words, because Derrick Williams is smooth on both ends of the court, but he's also a player that got to the line for lot of his offense. In the NBA, he's going to be a stretch four who will depend a lot on his perimeter game, like Boozer. Occasionally, he'll be a post-up SF, and he's going to be very effective on the offensive end IMO.

IMO, Williams seems to be a slightly shorter Antwawn Jamison.


He's about the same height and he plays a lot better defense. Otherwise, I think the comparison is good. It's not like Antawn isn't a good player.
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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#1486 » by BigA » Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:02 pm

I'm up for some post padding and tomfoolery.
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Re: 2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3... 

Post#1487 » by doclinkin » Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:29 pm

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Post#1488 » by doclinkin » Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:36 pm

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