2011 MLB Draft Thread (June 6-8)

[MajorDad]

sure twirls - say it now. say it nex t year . say it last year and the year before. gamel is down at AAA because he needs to play everyday and reed is a dumnb ass ! if you want to see a dumb ass , look in the mirror.

gamel could have played everyday two years ago , but he was beat out in Spring training by a waiver claim named McGehee. and how many times have you complained about McGehee's defense? and yet his defense at third was considered better than Gamel's and the reason for Gamel to switch to the outfield. I can't believe gamel thought he had a better chance of starting at the major league level as an outfielder over trying to beat out McGehee!! and when Hart started the year on the DL, Gamel could have started every day for the big league team, but noooooooooo, he was also injured.

When Lawrie arrives next week for Toronto, he's going to play every day. when Weeks, Braun and Fielder arrived, they started and played every day. when Escobar arrived, he played almost every day. Why? BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE TALENT !

if the brewers thought Gamel could play every day, they would have traded Hart to Atlanta for pitching last year! The brewers had several offers on the table. If the padres thought gamel could play, they would have traded pevey to the brewers for him. if toronto thought gamel could play every day, they wouldn't have asked for lawrie. if KC thought Gamel could play every day, they wouldn't have asked for Cain. With both Hart and Morgan injured, Gamel had an opportunity to play every day, but he remained at AAA. What does it say when the brewers would rather have Kotsay over Gamel???

When Morgan was acquired, Melvin said he would be our 4th outfielder and he wouldn't play eveery day. but morgan has used every opportunity he was given to claim the starting CF job over Gomez. But I guess Gamel can't do that???? Gamel can't use his talents to beat anybody out? Lawrie isn't worried about his competition in toronto! Hosmer wasn't worried about beating out Butler and KALULA in KC! Young wasn't worried about the competion being called up for the rockies! but gamel is worried if he's called up, he'll just sit on the bench! he's too busy changing positions to challenge for any starting position. he's not better than Hart as a RF! he's not better than McGehee as a third baseman. and there are about 150 players better than him if he ever thought about playing first base. Simply stated, Gamel is a DH on a national league team. He's our future DH for interleague games! and what's the real reason Gamel is at AAA? it's not to learn how to play first base. it's so he can build up what little trade value he has. however, other teams would rather trust their future to a 20 year old than trade for Gamel!

But you Twirls believe Gamel needs to remain at AAA for his fifth year at AAA? Why? so he can play every day at AAA! He's done that for the past 58 years! If Gamel had any real talent he would have started for the brewers two years ago!!!!! If Gamel had any real talent, the brewers would not have placed a waiver claim for Mcgehee! If Gamel had any real talent, he wouldn't be switching positions in the minors every year! if gamel had any real talent, he would be a starter at the major league level by age 23! I fully expect gamel to try either shortstop or catcher next year at AAA! and youthink he'd be a n adequate replacement for Fielder next year? You want Hart to switch to first so Gamel can be our starting rookie outfielder at age 27 in 2012? Surely there must be a better idea! the better idea is to forget about gamel, leave Hart where he is and find a real first baseman to replace Fielder. Do you honestly Hart's defense at first will be any better than Fielder's?

it's past time you stopped defending Gamel! Who are you? his dad?

Call me a dumb ass all you want twirls, but you know I'm right! And I've been right 1,090 times more than you have been in 60,000 fewer posts. You post a lot, but you don't say much! You're the Peter Gammons of Brewers' posters!

[trwi7]

No Reed. You can ramble for 10 years but in the end you're still a dumbass. You were after your first post and you still are after this latest abortion.

[LUKE23]

Gamel is in AAA because there is no spot for him to play every day at the MLB level.

Hart
Fielder
McGehee

What other spots could he play? I'd wager a good amount of money he's the first guy they try at 1B next year.

As for the draft today, I don't follow it close enough to comment at all. Just will say we need to hit on both picks (Captain Obvious).

[LUKE23]

Law's final mock out:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/20 ... ckDraft4.0

Taylor Jungmann, RHP, Texas

I hear they want pitching with both picks if they can make it work. Could do Jed Bradley here, or Mikie Mahtook if they don't like the pitching options.

Sonny Gray, RHP, Vanderbilt

Also hearing Tyler Anderson here. This is an unprotected pick, so whoever they take has to be signable.

[WEFFPIM]

I hope they pick good people. There ends my MLB Draft analysis

[LUKE23]

Not sure I really like the writeup on Gray:

Gray has to be the most divisive name among the top 15-20 talents in this year's draft. If you like him, you see a No. 2 starter with a knockout breaking ball, an aggressive approach, and 80 competitiveness. If you don't like him -- as a prospect, that is -- you see a reliever who's a sub-6-foot right-hander, pitches with a flat grade-55 fastball, and relies too much on the curveball but not enough on the fastball or changeup.

I'm more in the former camp than the latter although I admit to concerns based on how he's pitched this year. Gray will pitch at 91-94 as a starter now, but 92-96 in short stints, and his height means he doesn't get great downhill plane on it. The curveball is an out pitch, 79-84 with hard two-plane break. Gray has recently altered the grip on his changeup, giving it more split-like action and thus increasing the chances that it's the third weapon he'll need to remain a starter.

[trwi7]

Would much rather have Anderson than Gray if we're going safe. Anderson compares favorably to Mike Minor. Gray likely ends up as a reliever.

[Turk Nowitzki]

I will tune in to see who we pick, not that it will matter much to be one way or another. We certainly can't do worse than Arnett and then not getting a 1st round pick signed last year(granted is was because of health issues but still).

[ReasonablySober]

Heyman has us going Jed Bradley and Guerrieri.

Jed Bradley
LHP | Georgia Tech
Weight: 224 lbs.
Height: 6-4


Summary :

Bradley has the size, arm strength, and left-handedness that scouts love to see, making him a clear first-rounder this year, while the lack of an average breaking ball is raising questions about his long-term ceiling.

He hit 97 mph in preseason scrimmages and sits 89-94, coming from a high three-quarters slot with good extension and holding that velocity deep into games. He has an above-average changeup at 79-81 mph with good deception from his arm speed; his late release point helps here too. His slider, however, is comfortably below average, with several scouts who saw him in April calling it a grade-35 pitch; he has little feel for it and there's zero consistency. His arm slot looks conducive to a curveball, which I'd expect the team that drafts him to have him try.

After two years of disappointing performances, Bradley brought his game up a notch last summer on Cape Cod and has maintained it this spring, pushing himself into the top 20, but his ceiling is more of a No. 3 than a No. 1 or 2 until he finds a better third pitch.

Taylor Guerrieri
RHP | Spring Valley High School
Weight: 180 lbs.
Height: 6-3


Summary :

Guerrieri is one of the top prep arms in this year's draft, showing huge velocity with a knockout curveball and a good frame. I've had scouts tell me it's the best raw stuff of any high school pitcher in this draft, sitting 92-97 in most outings with a knockout breaking ball and a body to match.

Guerrieri's fastball is heavy, even when I saw him at just 90-94 working on short rest, and the curve has tight rotation and a well-defined break, but his command of the two pitches isn't there yet.

He can struggle with his landing point and needs to get that front foot down consistently toward the plate. Otherwise his delivery is very easy, with a moderate stride, not much hip rotation or torque, smooth arm action with early pronation, and just generally low effort from start to finish.

He'll need to throw more quality strikes and develop a consistent third pitch, but the arm strength and potential for a plus breaking ball is very enticing.

[trwi7]

Would be shocked if they went Guerrieri at 15. That's where a safer college pitcher or hitter is likely.

[SugarRay34]

I really want one of the SS at 12. Just praying one of them fall to us. I would be in love with Lindor at 12 and then grab one of the college arms at 15. i really dont see that happening but that is would be my dream scenario. What I do know though is Seid better do something with these 2 picks because he has been atrocious and should be on the hot seat somewhat if nothing comes out of this draft.

[skones]

Bauer is going to be a lot of fun to watch.

[ReasonablySober]

Nationals with Rendon and Harper in '13. Nasty.

[trwi7]

D'Backs take Archie Bradley with their unprotected pick. Wish the Brewers had those kind of balls.

[skones]

Both SS's off the board.

[trwi7]

Brewers on the clock.

[jimmybones]

I wanted Springer

[Turk Nowitzki]

Who would you take here Twirlz?

[ReasonablySober]

Gotta think it'd be Jungmann.

[Aaron It Out]

Geoff Jenkins representing the Brewers