Fumbles & Bricks in game 4

Post #1 » by **mopper8** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 5:59 pm

Some on this board want to trash Lebron for his passive game, put the loss on his shoulders

Some want trash Spo, calling the offense an inept mess and generally questioning his decision-making.

Some want to blame Wade...he may have had a great game overall, but he missed a huge FT and then fumbled away the inbounds pass on the last possession.

So I just wanted to point out the following:

1-Miami had 6 TOs in the 4th quarter, and by my count 5 of them were unforced. Wade loses his handle. Bosh fumbles a pass. Bosh loses his handle. Miller loses his handle. Bosh fumbles another pass. Also don't think Lebron turned it over in the 4th either that I remember

Those turnovers lead to 5 Mavericks points going the other direction. What's more, add in the opportunity cost of each turnover taking away a possible Miami fga...we scored 83 points on the other 80 possessions outside of those unforced turnovers. So, on 5 extra looks at the basket, we would be expecting anywhere from 4-7 points, given normal statistical variance. Considering that at least two of those fumbles came when Bosh was en route to a layup a I'd say 4 points is a reasonable floor for how many we could've scored without turning it over unforced.

That's a net swing of probably 9-12 points in the 4th. The difference between losing by 3 and winning by 6-9. With Lebron's awful night and the Heat's cold shooting (see below)

2-Lebron hasn't scored single digits since Jan of 07. 4 and a half YEARS since that's happened. Obviously, even 12 from him instead of 8 is enough for us to win.

3-That was literally as cold as Miami can get from distance. It was there worst night of shooting from beyond 15 feet not just in this series or in these playoffs, but ALL YEAR. 100 games is a pretty solid body of evidence that suggests game 101 was an aberration statistically. Of course, hit one of those 12 mssed 3s (in 14 tries) or two of those missed mid range Js (many of which were flat-out open), we win the game.

So...to recap: in spite of Miami suffering through the worst scoring game Lebron has played in well over 4 years, and in spite of Miami having it's absolute worst shooting performance of the year, Miami still needed to cough up the ball 5 times unforced with sloppy handles and stone hands, resulting in a net ~9-12 point advantage for Dallas to eek out a 3-point win.

And Wade would've had a good look coming off that curl too if he could've handled the pass.

And on top of that, the loss only drops us into a 2-2 tie, a position some of the greatest teams of all-time have found themselves in (most recently the 69-win Bulls).

Lost in all the infighting and recriminations going on here, I just thought it was worth pointing out that Miami is fine. Play a little less sloppy at the end and we win our worst shooting game of the season that also happened to be Lebron's worst game in years.

We are alright. If we take care of the ball, defend, and play with composure offensively, we win the next 2 games and the title.

Ok that's my piece mods, feel free to merge this if you don't think it's worth it's on thread. And I'm prepared to be called a Lebron or Spo apologist lol.

Post #2 » by **infinite11285** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 6:04 pm

Good piece....I would say post it on the GB but I don't think it'll do any good.

Post #3 » by **BFRESH44** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 6:10 pm

SMH @ this LeBron/Spo apologist.

SweetTouch · Post #4 » by **SweetTouch** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 6:10 pm

you can blame lbj for the Bosh fumble

Everyone is expecting LBJ to attempt the open layup, yet he passes to Bosh when he's not expecting it.

I agree with your point though

Post #5 » by **DefenseWins** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 6:10 pm

lol@Bosh. Why was Miller even handling the damn ball? I'd trust even Rio more there. The offense was great when he was handling the ball.

Anyway, yeah you're right.

I don't forgive Spo though. What is with calling no plays? No execution? Even when someone last night asked him about what wrong on THE EXECUTION he goes with the classic, I'll look at the tape. Which means, he called nothing and expected star power to one again prevail. Even the play in Game 4 was created by the players on the spot.

What about that one play against Chicago in OT? they did run that play. There's just no excuse to not run a play. I know there was like 6 seconds left, but give the execution a name and make sure everyone is on the same page and go with that.

I mean Dallas isn't going to be held in the 80s for this long... they are missing shots on the outside which Heat are lucky they are missing. There's going to be a game they won't miss. We all saw what they did against the Lakers lol.

And DIrk was freakin' sick and still made the game winning shot. That's heart... no excuse really from our team when the guy does that. LBJ wasn't sick, tired maybe, but he should follow Dirk's example to want to win like that. LBJ did it in Boston in Game 4...

But I have confidence they'll win Game 5.

I know the game was close but again Dirk was sick and missing shots he usually makes.

Kerosene · Post #6 » by **Kerosene** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 6:27 pm

Mopper ftw.

BigDaddyPR · Post #7 » by **BigDaddyPR** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 6:54 pm

Thank you mopper, this was a collective fail, putting it on Lebron alone is pure simple hater crap.

M_nus · Post #8 » by **M_nus** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 7:47 pm

Great post, but did an analysis of the Mavs' game come into play for you? We did have another sizeable lead and lost it, after all.

Post #9 » by **unowen85** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 8:07 pm

I agree with everything mopper wrote. The points, the sentences, the ellipses, the italics, even the words he utilized. Flawless.

coolnerd88 · Post #10 » by **coolnerd88** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 8:20 pm

Here we go

game 5...#winning

jmbflame21 · Post #11 » by **jmbflame21** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 8:37 pm

Great job mopper. I agree with 100%.

Its crazy to think that this was our WORST shooting game from outside all season and yet we still had a chance to tie the game on the final possession.... Anddddd Lebron only had 8 points for the first time in 5 years lol. Insane. It is encouraging going forward. I expect Lebron to be in 25/8/8 Lebron mode tomorrow, agressive and looking to score, drawing defenders to himself and dishing to our slashers and our 3 point shooters. That, along with Wade being in Finals Wade form, I think that should be enough for us to win Game 5. Bosh is a wild card at this point, his turnovers and butterfingers were a huge reason Dallas was able to come back on us. I also expect our 3 point shooting to be better, 2/14 is unacceptable against the Mavs... Win game 5, go home, have 2 chances close this series out and celebrate on our home court, champions. Go Heat!

Post #12 » by **mopper8** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 9:53 pm

M_nus wrote:Great post, but did an analysis of the Mavs' game come into play for you? We did have another sizeable lead and lost it, after all.

Yeah, though I'm not going to go too in depth, I'd say the Mavs played well, but it wasn't that sublime, I-can't-believe-what-I'm-seeing stuff plike their 9-10 shooting finish to game 2. After their timeout when they were down 7 they only shot 6-17 the rest of the way. That's not world beating. They did go to the line 10 times though (made 9).

After they called timeout when our lead was 7, Terry came out and hit a J. We turned it over (Lebron travelled, forgot about that one so he did turn it over once. They also credit one of Bosh's turnovers to him as a bad pass though I do t agree), and Terry hits again. Miami calls a timeout, up 3.

From that point on both teams shot, they shot 4-15, and we shot 4-13. We turned it over 4 times, they turned it over 1. We sht 3-4 from the line, they shot 9-10.

We left the door open for them, and they walked through it (just barely), so give them credit for that. But make no mistake: we DEFINITELY opened that door.

Hell, Spo called a timeout with 4:35 to go and we were down 4. We proceeded to hold them without a FG the next 4:00+ minutes; all they got over that stretch was 2 points on Dirk FTs. They were like 0-7 or something like that. Only problem was that we only scored 3 ourselves! Part of that was the Mavs zone, but part of it was just sloppy play and missing shots.

Pimpwerx · Post #13 » by **Pimpwerx** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:36 pm

I want to say we need to get ahold of the FT situation, as in shooting them at a higher percentage, but this has been a complaint of mine for years. FTs are free points, and we need to maximize those. Fouling Dirk is an automatic 2 points. It's gotta be so comforting having such a reliable source of points.

Otherwise, I want to know what magic Dallas works with its zone. They just bamboozle us going in and out of it. When we struggled in late games, we were a jumpshooting team. Down the stretch, that zone turns us into a jumpshooting team. A team that pounds the rock idly and jacks up ill-advised shots with the clock running down. It failed us in the first half of the season, and it's failing us again now. The lack of ball movement really stands out to me. Isn't the way to beat a zone ball movement? We just get so stagnant and lazy on offense when that zone comes out.

I don't think it's a fluke either. Dallas runs that zone better than anyone else, but there's a way to score on it. OKC ran up big numbers on them, and we've got more talent and a better coach than OKC. PEACE.

Post #14 » by **DefenseWins** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:42 pm

OKC would get like 30+ FT's. They had a bunch of slashers.

If Rio, Wade and LBJ penetrate all night, it's an automatic win.

They would also blow the lead the same exact way Heat would though. Stagnant, can't penetrate, hero ball.

I don't know what it is. I thought Heat would have more poise than OKC and they do, but I'm a surprised.

Especially after their epic ECF and 2nd round.