Is the Euro worth more than a dollar?

HolyToledo · Post #1 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 10:21 pm

Should the Jazz draft an foreigner or USA player. Heres the evaluation of the Euro talent!

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazzn ... /story.csp

carrottop12 · Post #2 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 10:28 pm

Warning for personal attack.

HolyToledo · Post #3 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 10:33 pm

Bat wrote:This title borders on racism. Wouldn't expect anything less from Toledo.

racism ..LOL..you got to be kidding..Euro player vs. USA (dollar) player ...you are the racist if you think this borders on racism because no such thought entered my mind but apparently entered yours.

HolyToledo · Post #4 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 10:35 pm

Don't get baited.

babyjax13 · Post #5 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 11:03 pm

HolyToledo wrote:BAT you are white racist trash with that offensive comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously?

carrottop12 · Post #6 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 11:19 pm

kamazilla · Post #7 » by **kamazilla** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:38 am

Not an offensive title, just an unnecessary thread.

carrottop12 · Post #8 » by **carrottop12** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:55 am

kamazilla wrote:Not an offensive title, just an unnecessary thread.

Certainly not as offensive as this...

HolyToledo wrote:BAT you are white racist trash

But anytime you compare the value of people based on their nationality you could really start to offend people.

JDubJazz · Post #9 » by **JDubJazz** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:15 am

Wow, this thread devolved into name calling before a single constructive, on-topic reply was posted. Its almost impressive, except for the fact that I feel like one of those idiot drivers who slows down to watch someone getting a speeding ticket.

Post #10 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:40 am

The thread title is clearly a play on words about currency. Talk about the topic or find another thread to post.

carrottop12 · Post #11 » by **carrottop12** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:17 am

Can we at least acknowledge that Biyombo isn't european.

Maybe check my thread called "American's more valuable than Africans." /green

Post #12 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:53 am

Biyombo is getting paid in Euros. And the American Dollar is worth much more than the Zimbabwe Dollar. But at 12 Biyombo is a huge steal. I think his upside is close to Kanter. He is more limited offensively, but his defensive ceiling is the homerun pick we need.

Post #13 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:56 am

I thought it was a clever title and not offensive in the least. It's an interesting question I think: do we overvalue these "exotic" foreign players simply because we haven't seen as much of their game? It's an extension of the same principle that led to high-schoolers (before the one and done rule) and freshman getting picked before juniors and seniors: the more you see of the player the smaller his "upside". The fewer games a guy plays in American college basketball the less we know about his weaknesses and limitations.

carrottop12 · Post #14 » by **carrottop12** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:23 am

DelaneyRudd wrote:Biyombo is getting paid in Euros. And the American Dollar is worth much more than the Zimbabwe Dollar. But at 12 Biyombo is a huge steal. I think his upside is close to Kanter. He is more limited offensively, but his defensive ceiling is the homerun pick we need.

Are you saying one African at 12 is worth more than an American at 12?

What is more valuable, one of the two American gold coins at 3? Or the Zimbabwe dollar at 12?

carrottop12 · Post #15 » by **carrottop12** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:28 am

HappyProle wrote:I thought it was a clever title and not offensive in the least. It's an interesting question I think: do we overvalue these "exotic" foreign players simply because we haven't seen as much of their game? It's an extension of the same principle that led to high-schoolers (before the one and done rule) and freshman getting picked before juniors and seniors: the more you see of the player the smaller his "upside". The fewer games a guy plays in American college basketball the less we know about his weaknesses and limitations.

Here is how I see how we view players, it has less to do with how much we see of them, and more about what we see from them.

Upside>>>>>Skill.

More Upside>>>More Skill.

High skill=Low upside.

Low skill=High upside.

Low skill>>>>>High skill.

Zimbabwe dollar = Low skill.

Turkish gold = High skill.

Zimbabwe dollar >>>>>>>> Turkish Gold.

QuantumMacgyver · Post #16 » by **QuantumMacgyver** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:37 am

Props to Toledo. That was actually a pretty darn clever title. Too bad this thread went south so fast.

woodstock17 · Post #17 » by **woodstock17** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:47 am

QuantumMacgyver wrote:Props to Toledo. That was actually a pretty darn clever title. Too bad this thread went south so fast.

I'll be honest, I must be really tired because i got a real kick out of this thread.

On a serious note though, there are a lot more dollars in this draft then euros or zimbabwe dollars. but who knows, with the bad economy the value of the dollar is not as good as it used to be.

HammerDunk · Post #18 » by **HammerDunk** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:48 am

QuantumMacgyver wrote:Props to Toledo. That was actually a pretty darn clever title. Too bad this thread went south so fast.

Agreed, Toledo came through despite his proven track record, and it was ruined. Cool thread though, very informative and well discussed... :lol:

carrottop12 · Post #19 » by **carrottop12** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:17 pm

Lol, I ruined toledos brightest moment.

Sorry dude.

clockwork · Post #20 » by **clockwork** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:45 pm

holy crap that article is horrible.. generalizations that people get from first-look highlights.

are these people experts? have they seen these internationals play one full game?

vesely is worst case shawn marion, valanciunas is pau gasol type. hilarious..