Charles Barkley was right

HIF · Post #1 » by **HIF** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:50 am

Too many Miami fans are a bunch a whiny spoilt little girls.

Reading through your posts today makes me feel sick to think you pretend to support the same team I do. The Heat lost a great match and are losing a finals series by 1 with 2 games at home to finish it off. A game 6 win would put us on top.

We have a great team core in the first year of the rebuild.
We're playing in a Finals series for the second time in our Franchise history.
You have been beaten by fans of other teams who don't whinge and whine every time their team loses.
You have been beaten by the baiters that will dance all over your whinging mouths.
You should really just go away and add your false support to a girls netball team.

You are pathetic and not REAL fans.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

arsenic · Post #2 » by **arsenic** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:00 am

Heat in 7.

GreenHat · Post #3 » by **GreenHat** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:05 pm

To be a real fan you must believe that every move that your team makes is the right one, even when it clearly is not.

Its actually more of a cult than a team, haters or even moderates should stop following the team. I mean this guy says so, nothing more you can do about that.

HIF · Post #4 » by **HIF** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:07 pm

Just stating my opinion, bandwagoner. I wonder who you'll be following next year? Probably still the Heat since we are the best team in the NBA. :wink:

GreenHat · Post #5 » by **GreenHat** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:21 pm

Yeah man I'm a bandwagoner.

I've had season tickets before games were even widely available in your country. I know for you everything is about signup dates but I went to high school with a couple of people on this forum who were on this site years before you (since that clearly means everything to you) who can vouch for my "fandom"

And once again yeah we are the best team in the NBA, so who's fault is it that another team is clearly outplaying us? Glad you now admit we are the best team in the NBA, in that Spo thread you claimed that for us to win it all it would be a miracle just so you can label your man-crush a miracle worker once we won (even though you contradictorily picked us to win every series easily)

You can state your opinion, but when it childishly name calls other people expect to be called out on your inconsistencies. You exaggerate and are just as nonsensical as those people who you think you are so much better than.

truthiness · Post #6 » by **truthiness** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:34 pm

HIF wrote:Too many Miami fans are a bunch a whiny spoilt little girls.

Reading through your posts today makes me feel sick to think you pretend to support the same team I do. The Heat lost a great match and are losing a finals series by 1 with 2 games at home to finish it off. A game 6 win would put us on top.

We have a great team core in the first year of the rebuild.
We're playing in a Finals series for the second time in our Franchise history.
You have been beaten by fans of other teams who don't whinge and whine every time their team loses.
You have been beaten by the baiters that will dance all over your whinging mouths.
You should really just go away and add your false support to a girls netball team.

You are pathetic and not REAL fans.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

This is NOT Sparta.
Fans don't need to go down in flames defending Spoelstra.

This is not a cult and Spoelstra is not a god.
Fans have the right to criticize and speak the truth.

Just because you can't/refuse to see the truth, doesn't make you something special.
It makes you a stubborn ass, just like your idol.

Oh, and you might live in France, but you're no real frenchman.
Frenchmen will ruthlessly criticize failure with an extra sharp tongue.

HIF · Post #7 » by **HIF** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:34 pm

Green Hat it wouldn't matter whether you have been to every Miami game that was played - it doesn't stop you bitching about your team instead of supporting them. You could be a fan just not a very good fan IMO.

I guess you never had an internet connection before 2011. That's what makes you a bandwagon fan. You only signed up here when you thought that Miami would win it. I should probably be happy about that considering the amount of bitching that you've done about the team this year. I can't imagine what you would have said over the last few decades.

I didn't expect us to win it all this year - we had a two year start up plan. I'm happy and thankful that we are ahead of plan and the best team in the NBA.

I defend Spo because he is a great coach as almost everyone can see other than some bitching Miami supporters - as Barkley says Miami fans are whiny girls you seem to be evidence of that statement. I don't have a man crush on Spo - as if I need to write that - I just find the hate aimed at him and many of our players by supposed Miami Fans despicable.

I will continue to state my opinions on this forum until I'm banned or leave and I'm sure many other readers agree with my statements concerning whiners, bandwagoners and frontrunners but just don't want to state them as they see how anyone that does is hounded, ridiculed and despised.

If the mods decide that I've stepped over the line with my comments about pathetic Heat supporters (oh no wrong word they don't support) then I'll get banned - I accept that and then have many free hours to find other things to occupy them. Until then I will continue to air my views.

I'm pretty sure that after we win G6 and G7 the overreactors will celebrate and the whiners will pretend that they were always behind the Heat team. hopefully I'll be able to print the names and quotes of you and your friends after our G7 victory and before I get banned.

You maybe a fan but you're not a Heat supporter.

GreenHat wrote:Yeah man I'm a bandwagoner.

I've had season tickets before games were even widely available in your country. I know for you everything is about signup dates but I went to high school with a couple of people on this forum who were on this site years before you (since that clearly means everything to you) who can vouch for my "fandom"

And once again yeah we are the best team in the NBA, so who's fault is it that another team is clearly outplaying us? Glad you now admit we are the best team in the NBA, in that Spo thread you claimed that for us to win it all it would be a miracle just so you can label your man-crush a miracle worker once we won (even though you contradictorily picked us to win every series easily)

You can state your opinion, but when it childishly name calls other people expect to be called out on your inconsistencies. You exaggerate and are just as nonsensical as those people who you think you are so much better than.

thecrowning · Post #8 » by **thecrowning** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:54 pm

Hilarious stuff, anyways, this thread feels like a jinx.

Moggs24 · Post #9 » by **Moggs24** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:15 pm

HIF wrote:Too many Miami fans are a bunch a whiny spoilt little girls.

Reading through your posts today makes me feel sick to think you pretend to support the same team I do. The Heat lost a great match and are losing a finals series by 1 with 2 games at home to finish it off. A game 6 win would put us on top.

We have a great team core in the first year of the rebuild.
We're playing in a Finals series for the second time in our Franchise history.
You have been beaten by fans of other teams who don't whinge and whine every time their team loses.
You have been beaten by the baiters that will dance all over your whinging mouths.
You should really just go away and add your false support to a girls netball team.

You are pathetic and not REAL fans.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

While you are always more confrontational then I look to be on these forums I agree with what you are saying. You don't have to blindly support your team as I certainly don't, but for god's sake at least let the series play out. Everyone knew this would be a long series. We choked away game two which hurt but last night they shot they lights out, you have to tip your hat for that kind of a game.

All they did was win 2 out three at home now all we have to do is hold serve. But what is incredibly irritating is to come on here after every loss and hear fire spo, trade lebron and Bosh. Come on have some confidence this is the NBA Finals these guys are two wins away from a title and we are gonna dismantle the team? Let's support our team till the end and we could very well end this season with a title.

Insanity91 · Post #10 » by **Insanity91** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:15 pm

LETS GO HEAT!!

Can't wait to see the look on Cubans face if we win.

Scratch that.

WHEN we win.

GreenHat · Post #11 » by **GreenHat** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:50 pm

HIF wrote:Green Hat it wouldn't matter whether you have been to every Miami game that was played - it doesn't stop you bitching about your team instead of supporting them. You could be a fan just not a very good fan IMO.

I guess you never had an internet connection before 2011. That's what makes you a bandwagon fan. You only signed up here when you thought that Miami would win it. I should probably be happy about that considering the amount of bitching that you've done about the team this year. I can't imagine what you would have said over the last few decades.

I didn't expect us to win it all this year - we had a two year start up plan. I'm happy and thankful that we are ahead of plan and the best team in the NBA.

I defend Spo because he is a great coach as almost everyone can see other than some bitching Miami supporters - as Barkley says Miami fans are whiny girls you seem to be evidence of that statement. I don't have a man crush on Spo - as if I need to write that - I just find the hate aimed at him and many of our players by supposed Miami Fans despicable.

I will continue to state my opinions on this forum until I'm banned or leave and I'm sure many other readers agree with my statements concerning whiners, bandwagoners and frontrunners but just don't want to state them as they see how anyone that does is hounded, ridiculed and despised.

If the mods decide that I've stepped over the line with my comments about pathetic Heat supporters (oh no wrong word they don't support) then I'll get banned - I accept that and then have many free hours to find other things to occupy them. Until then I will continue to air my views.

I'm pretty sure that after we win G6 and G7 the overreactors will celebrate and the whiners will pretend that they were always behind the Heat team. hopefully I'll be able to print the names and quotes of you and your friends after our G7 victory and before I get banned.

You maybe a fan but you're not a Heat supporter.

Of course it wouldn't matter to you if I've been to every game. Because in HIF's Cult of Spo and The Miami Heat the only thing that matters is signup dates and never questioning your master. Going to games doesn't matter because you don't (through no fault of your own) and you make the rules on who is worthy of joining HIF's Cult of Spo and The Miami Heat. Spo comes first because him looking good is more important in your Cult than the Heat succeeding.

I disagree with your notion that a good fan can never question the object of your fandom. A good fan knows their subject well enough to have minor quibbles. The greatest literary critiques of classic works come from the biggest fans because they know the work more intimately. The harshest musical critics can usually be found by a passionate fan who is displeased by a drop in performance or the failure to live up to potential. Who were the people complaining the loudest about the newer Star Wars films? The people who were the biggest Star Wars fans of course.

Again you try to attack me sarcastically with a false premise. While I obviously had internet before 2011, I did not have a job that gives me a lot of free time at a computer until... wait for it... January of this year. Before that I was owned my own business and was traveling way too much to be on the internet much at all. Right now I am being paid while typing this response, if I wasn't I would not be sitting in front of a computer. Also your accusation of me only signing up when I thought we would win it all holds no weight, because then I would have signed up back in 2004 when it first looked like we would win it all (Shaq's first year I thought we were gonna win it all).

If you didn't expect us to win it all this year, then you were completely wrong and that might be why you are so accepting of sub par play, your expectations were artificially low because you judged the talent of this team incorrectly. Most of us could tell that this was a championship caliber team, I guess you didn't notice.

But I did, and so did Lebron, Wade, Haslem, Riley and even your boy Spo. All of them went into this season expecting a championship, while you were not with us and were expecting a two year rebuild.

Again you claim that I hate Spo, just like I hate Miller and everyone else in the Heat organization. But I just defended Spo this morning to a Heat Fan. Can't you see that there is a difference between not thinking that Spo is "great" and "hating" him? I fall in between those two groups which is why I have arguments with both groups. I think he is an average-ish coach who has some plusses but has some faults and makes some mistakes. I think thats a perfectly reasonable position to take and your accusations that I hate Spo are unfounded.

One key difference between how me and you see the situation it is that I think we are a great team with an average coach while you thought we were a team in the middle of a "two year start up plan" with a GREAT coach.

Your argument that because you haven't been banned gives your views weight is laughable. All these people who you are whining and bitching about haven't been banned either so why don't you afford them the same respect that you seek? You complain about being hounded, ridiculed and despised while doing those exact same things. You are a hypocrite and most of your arguments are paradoxically hypocritical.

After we win G6 and G7 will you also post your posts about how it would take a miracle for us to win and that we are in the middle of a two year start up plan? Of course you won't because that is you. I would love for you to post any of my posts after we win because unlike you I have thought that we should win it all, the whole year.

I guess you just didn't support the team until you knew we had the best team /sarcasm

I am a Heat fan and a Heat supporter. I've supported this team through the thick and thin. I was THERE when we won it all and I was THERE when we were asked to move into one section so that they could film a commercial with one full section in the Pre-Wade years when the AAA was less than half full for most games. And I'll be THERE when this season ends, one way or another.

The difference between us is that you are a settler and I am a perfectionist. Throughout my life I have always wanted to be better, even in aspects that were already pretty good. You are satisfied if we lose because you thought we were in a two year start up plan while I think us losing would be a failure because we have the best team. Even if we do win it all, I'll still want us to play better, thats just me. I know we can never be perfect, but we can always be better.

Its a good thing that Haslem, Riley and Wade share my mentality instead of yours. If Haslem didn't always strive to be better he'd be playing in some crappy French league right now instead of in the NBA. If Riley didn't always strive to be champions we'd be a pretty good treadmill team. If Wade thought like you he'd be an all star player instead of an all time great.

Its a good thing for both of our sakes they think like me and not like you. If you don't think I am a "supporter" for not thinking that we are right on every decision that we make and thinking that we can be better, then thats fine. I'm a supporter of a team, not a cult.

truthiness · Post #12 » by **truthiness** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:50 pm

this thread in a nutshell:

ImSlower · Post #13 » by **ImSlower** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:47 pm

It's pretty silly to equate 'true fandom' to your realGM registration date. There are plenty of passionate, knowledgeable Heat fans who wore their jerseys, supported their team, and had an emotional investment before registering on this basketball forum.

Obviously I'm a Bulls guy, but I certainly didn't suddenly say last year, "Hey, I think I'm going to be a Bulls fan now! I should make an account on a prestigious internet basketball forum!"

You guys are giving NBA fans a terrifically exciting finals experience. Miami in 7 would instantly become one of the most talked-about, well-known NBA finals ever. And it's certainly possible. Plus, I have a hundy on it over at bodog, so I'm temporarily all for you guys! Haha.

HIF · Post #14 » by **HIF** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:01 pm

Did not read

You proabably have a small penis too.

GreenHat wrote:
HIF wrote:Green Hat it wouldn't matter whether you have been to every Miami game that was played - it doesn't stop you bitching about your team instead of supporting them. You could be a fan just not a very good fan IMO.

I guess you never had an internet connection before 2011. That's what makes you a bandwagon fan. You only signed up here when you thought that Miami would win it. I should probably be happy about that considering the amount of bitching that you've done about the team this year. I can't imagine what you would have said over the last few decades.

I didn't expect us to win it all this year - we had a two year start up plan. I'm happy and thankful that we are ahead of plan and the best team in the NBA.

I defend Spo because he is a great coach as almost everyone can see other than some bitching Miami supporters - as Barkley says Miami fans are whiny girls you seem to be evidence of that statement. I don't have a man crush on Spo - as if I need to write that - I just find the hate aimed at him and many of our players by supposed Miami Fans despicable.

I will continue to state my opinions on this forum until I'm banned or leave and I'm sure many other readers agree with my statements concerning whiners, bandwagoners and frontrunners but just don't want to state them as they see how anyone that does is hounded, ridiculed and despised.

If the mods decide that I've stepped over the line with my comments about pathetic Heat supporters (oh no wrong word they don't support) then I'll get banned - I accept that and then have many free hours to find other things to occupy them. Until then I will continue to air my views.

I'm pretty sure that after we win G6 and G7 the overreactors will celebrate and the whiners will pretend that they were always behind the Heat team. hopefully I'll be able to print the names and quotes of you and your friends after our G7 victory and before I get banned.

You maybe a fan but you're not a Heat supporter.

Of course it wouldn't matter to you if I've been to every game. Because in HIF's Cult of Spo and The Miami Heat the only thing that matters is signup dates and never questioning your master. Going to games doesn't matter because you don't (through no fault of your own) and you make the rules on who is worthy of joining HIF's Cult of Spo and The Miami Heat. Spo comes first because him looking good is more important in your Cult than the Heat succeeding.

I disagree with your notion that a good fan can never question the object of your fandom. A good fan knows their subject well enough to have minor quibbles. The greatest literary critiques of classic works come from the biggest fans because they know the work more intimately. The harshest musical critics can usually be found by a passionate fan who is displeased by a drop in performance or the failure to live up to potential. Who were the people complaining the loudest about the newer Star Wars films? The people who were the biggest Star Wars fans of course.

Again you try to attack me sarcastically with a false premise. While I obviously had internet before 2011, I did not have a job that gives me a lot of free time at a computer until... wait for it... January of this year. Before that I was owned my own business and was traveling way too much to be on the internet much at all. Right now I am being paid while typing this response, if I wasn't I would not be sitting in front of a computer. Also your accusation of me only signing up when I thought we would win it all holds no weight, because then I would have signed up back in 2004 when it first looked like we would win it all (Shaq's first year I thought we were gonna win it all).

If you didn't expect us to win it all this year, then you were completely wrong and that might be why you are so accepting of sub par play, your expectations were artificially low because you judged the talent of this team incorrectly. Most of us could tell that this was a championship caliber team, I guess you didn't notice.

But I did, and so did Lebron, Wade, Haslem, Riley and even your boy Spo. All of them went into this season expecting a championship, while you were not with us and were expecting a two year rebuild.

Again you claim that I hate Spo, just like I hate Miller and everyone else in the Heat organization. But I just defended Spo this morning to a Heat Fan. Can't you see that there is a difference between not thinking that Spo is "great" and "hating" him? I fall in between those two groups which is why I have arguments with both groups. I think he is an average-ish coach who has some plusses but has some faults and makes some mistakes. I think thats a perfectly reasonable position to take and your accusations that I hate Spo are unfounded.

One key difference between how me and you see the situation it is that I think we are a great team with an average coach while you thought we were a team in the middle of a "two year start up plan" with a GREAT coach.

Your argument that because you haven't been banned gives your views weight is laughable. All these people who you are whining and bitching about haven't been banned either so why don't you afford them the same respect that you seek? You complain about being hounded, ridiculed and despised while doing those exact same things. You are a hypocrite and most of your arguments are paradoxically hypocritical.

After we win G6 and G7 will you also post your posts about how it would take a miracle for us to win and that we are in the middle of a two year start up plan? Of course you won't because that is you. I would love for you to post any of my posts after we win because unlike you I have thought that we should win it all, the whole year.

I guess you just didn't support the team until you knew we had the best team /sarcasm

I am a Heat fan and a Heat supporter. I've supported this team through the thick and thin. I was THERE when we won it all and I was THERE when we were asked to move into one section so that they could film a commercial with one full section in the Pre-Wade years when the AAA was less than half full for most games. And I'll be THERE when this season ends, one way or another.

The difference between us is that you are a settler and I am a perfectionist. Throughout my life I have always wanted to be better, even in aspects that were already pretty good. You are satisfied if we lose because you thought we were in a two year start up plan while I think us losing would be a failure because we have the best team. Even if we do win it all, I'll still want us to play better, thats just me. I know we can never be perfect, but we can always be better.

Its a good thing that Haslem, Riley and Wade share my mentality instead of yours. If Haslem didn't always strive to be better he'd be playing in some crappy French league right now instead of in the NBA. If Riley didn't always strive to be champions we'd be a pretty good treadmill team. If Wade thought like you he'd be an all star player instead of an all time great.

Its a good thing for both of our sakes they think like me and not like you. If you don't think I am a "supporter" for not thinking that we are right on every decision that we make and thinking that we can be better, then thats fine. I'm a supporter of a team, not a cult.

BadMofoPimp · Post #15 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:40 pm

I am happy for this team just to make it this far Win, Lose or Draw, they had a great 1st season together. It can only get better. These finals have been the most exciting great basketball I have seen in years. Of course, I hate to see some of the endings, but you cannot deny that Dirk guy has a lot of heart and is putting it on the line.

Carlos4Heat · Post #16 » by **Carlos4Heat** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:45 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I am happy for this team just to make it this far Win, Lose or Draw, they had a great 1st season together. It can only get better. These finals have been the most exciting great basketball I have seen in years. Of course, I hate to see some of the endings, but you cannot deny that Dirk guy has a lot of heart and is putting it on the line.

Sounds like you're throwing in the towel,on the season.We can and I believe will,win this title.C'mon BadMofofPimp,you have to believe and know that we will win this thing.

BadMofoPimp · Post #17 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:51 pm

I still believe they can pull it out at home. I am going to try and WILL it to happen during the game at times. But, if it does not happen, I won't be crying like most Heat fans. I have been a Heat fan since the early 90's, so I have seen many up's and down's with this ball club. Come worst case scenario, I won't look at this as a wasted season. Those Brian Grant years were wasted.

WadeisLikeMike · Post #18 » by **WadeisLikeMike** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:53 pm

Did not read

You proabably have a small penis too.

Hif I respect you for standing by spo though everything the immaturity
And the hate that you are spreading toward your own fans is terrible. Your pathetic and the boards would be a better place without you, the way you are acting.

Carlos4Heat · Post #19 » by **Carlos4Heat** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:56 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Those Brian Grant years were wasted.

You've got a point there.

Number34 · Post #20 » by **Number34** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:39 pm

HIF's computer clock is stuck on the first of the fourth.