HawthorneWingo wrote:
You know what, mugz? I agree with Lupe Fiasco (which I can't believe I'm writing ... I don't even know who he is). America's terrorism is what brought about the hate amongst young Muslim men in the middle east. And I understand where they're coming from. Always did.
After 9/11, a lot of people, particularly from the right, kept on saying "they hate us for our freedoms." Not true. They never hated us for our freedoms. Young Muslims always admired us for our freedoms. They hated (and hate) us for our oppression (i.e. terrorism). Our unfair support of Israel. Our support of oppressive Islamic regimes who abuse their people. But, hey, as long as we get a good oil deal, right?
And, yes, Obama HAS continued that to a certain extent which is why I, as a liberal, have had my concerns about him, as I've state many times here. He's not liberal enough for me, which is why I find it so fascinating that the right calls all kinds of "commie" names. He's much more centrist that the right is willing to admit publicly. His blackness prevents the conservative right from seeing that.
By the way, I saw your post in reply to some idiot who ridiculed the dude who's cat died. Good job. You put him in his place. Right where he belonged.
I don't believe in American terrorism per se. But now that also makes one define the parameters of what terrorism is. To me, terrorism is a method of warfare based on fear, no rules of engagement, and indiscriminate killing that is rooted in a warped view of a religion that some use as their justification for violence.
Now you can certainly argue that American interventionist policies from the 50s on in the middle east has exacerbated the powder keg of middle eastern politics, and that I would agree with. Removing the Shah of Iran lead to the hardliners taking power there. Training Saddam made him into the monster that we eventually had to remove. That I won't deny.
But I know this. I'm a student of history. And make no mistake, there are psychos that are hellbent on establishing a global caliphate. And the hatred of Israel, the U.S. and western culture, jews and Christianity is ingrained in many of these Muslim schools from a very early age. It's not something that can be ignored or dismissed as a minute problem.
And once Iran gets a nuke, the situation can and will get much worse.
You may not like Israel, but they have a right to exist. They are surrounded by enemies and they show much more restraint when provoked by Hamas, Lebanon, Syrian refugees, etc. than their neighbors show.
I don't like or agree with the 2 state solution. Its not a solution at all. The Palestinians are a nomadic people, always have been and they never had a country. In fact border wise they by and large belong in Jordan since that was originally where most of them came from. And Jerusalem will never be divided, its not nor has ever been a Muslim city, and will never be.
And as far as the president goes, I look at the man as a whole. His dubious background, the content of his character and associates like Ayers, Rev. Wright, Rezko, his Saudi connections, where his education was financed from, Obamacare, his economic ineptitude, his unconstitutional Czar appointments and the far left backgrounds of these people- Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, etc., TARP, massive deficit increases, nationalizing GM-which the govt will lose money on because no one is stupid enough to pay 40 bux a share for a mismanaged company so the govt can recoup their investment, his race baiting-and head race baiter Eric Holder, 4.00 a gallon gas, devaluing of the currency, Helicopter Ben's Quantitative easing which is leading to more and more inflation.
I could go on and on, point is, if he was any further left there wouldnt be a country left. I dont see him as a centrist at all. In fact this whole country is going to hell in a handbasket, you have the Democratic socialist party and the GOP has become the democrats of 30 yrs ago, so to me they're democrat lite.
Especially with RINO's like Romney trying to get elected. That man is an elitist, globalist hack and doesn't represent conservatives in any way shape or form.
Oh and yeah that poster who I won't name is a complete tool. He obviously isn't happy with his own life so he projects his misery onto others. He deserves a right cross followed by a left uppercut.
Trust but verify.
