Celts Have Guarantee to Reggie Jackson?

big_ticket · Post #61 » by **big_ticket** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:54 pm

Bluewhale wrote:Tony Allen
D West
Gabe Pruitt
J.R. Giddens
Avery Bradley

now Reggie Jackson?

Ainge really love these 6'2 to 6'4 guard in late first round!

on point

John Locke · Post #62 » by **John Locke** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:16 pm

When I read that he has a 7 foot wingspan I imediatly thought: Danny Ainge will pick this dude.

Danny really likes those long arms, and guys with a high standing reach. It seems like that is what he looks at, TA, Delonte, Rondo, Perk all had long arms...

Celts17Pride · Post #63 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:44 pm

Chad Ford: Reggie Jackson canceled all of his workouts. Bulls, Pacers, Bobcats and Blazers all had him scheduled to come in. about 35 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Teams were told Jackson was still injured and wasn't able to workout. Lots of speculation by teams that he has a promise. about 34 minutes ago

Chad Ford: He doesn't have a promise to Celtics or Nets as has been rumored according to sources on both teams. about 32 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Teams are also not getting interviews, medical information from Jackson. Nothing. Teams are discouraged, many wanted him to come in. about 30 minutes ago

Tommy Dee: my reggie jackson update is that his head coach told him NOT to sign with agent without a 1st rd guarantee.Bos said he wouldn't get past 25. 2 minutes ago

Tommy Dee: if the kid is a 1st round pick by all accounts and he stopped working out...he has a guarantee. 1 minute ago

Note:

A. Sherrod Blakely (Celtics Insider) has the Celtics taking Reggie Jackson in his mock draft.

http://www.csnne.com/06/15/11/Blakely-M ... eedID=3945

Is the writing on the wall for Reggie Jackson in Boston? Sure looks like he has a promise from someone.

Celtic Esquire · Post #64 » by **Celtic Esquire** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:56 pm

Stop drafting combo guards!!!

We need size and 6'2-'6'4 are a dime a dozen in the D league.

Banks2Pierce · Post #65 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:04 pm

Reggie definitely has a guarantee from someone if he has canceled interviews with no physical activity involved.

I saw a study on NBADraft.net where they removed non-conference, cream puffs from statistics to see how it affected statistics and that Reggie's efficiency fell off quite a bit against the real teams. That sticks with me. I didn't follow college bball that closely this year.

Marvel · Post #66 » by **Marvel** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:48 pm

Thsi is great news for the Celtics and Danny. Say what you want, but there's smoke. He's cancelled his workouts and any affiliation with teams for a reason.

NWcentric · Post #67 » by **NWcentric** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:32 am

Marvel- I agree.

Reggie Jackson has incredible potential. If they can get him for the #25 pick, it's a steal. The only real question, if the smoke is real, is whether he is considered a Rondo replacement or an Allen replacement. I think it's the latter though... that he is viewed as the heir apparent at the two guard, someone who can play like Dwayne Wade with dribble penetration. Someone with even more length than Wade, in fact.

Pairing him with Rondo would give the team incredible athleticism at the guard position for the long-term, incredible defensive potential, and incredible fast breaks.

One thing is for sure, If Ainge did give him a guarantee, he must be supremely confident that he is a future difference-maker in the league with all-star potential (and I trust Ainge's instincts).

The other thing is that this would be one of the finest orchestrations ever if true... since it is looking clearer that not only did a team make a guarantee but the player has been equally complicit in ensuring that no one else would be interested. The deal would have to be pretty strong... "We'll guarantee that we'll draft you in the first round if you promise to avoid the combine and all workouts and interviews with other teams." There would have to be a great deal of trust between the two parties.. especially on the part of the player. If Jackson does go on to be an all-star it will go down as an almost Auerbach-ian move.

I love it.

Even if it's another team, and not Boston, I think it's a brilliant maneuver.

bigboi · Post #68 » by **bigboi** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:43 am

This dude could play the 2. He could end up poor man's Dwade honestly. He is not that tall, but makes up with length and athleticism.

NWcentric · Post #69 » by **NWcentric** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:05 am

One other thing to keep in mind in the whole "guarantee" thing...

Jackson's agent is Aaron Mintz, who is also the agent for JR Giddens. It's possible that Ainge made a similar guarantee for Giddens. If so, Ainge would have an established track record with Mintz, potentially setting the table for this guarantee with strings... the strings being that Ainge would only guarantee if Jackson shut it down for everyone else.

Pure speculation, of course, but interesting that Ainge and Mintz have been involved closely in the past at the very least.

I know the doubters will look on the Giddens association as a negative (Giddens was a bust), but if all of this as true, the drafting of Giddens might eventually be viewed as an influential step in retrospect in acquiring Jackson so easily later on.

Banks2Pierce · Post #70 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:54 am

Promises do make a bit of sense. There maybe shouldn't be, but there are workout warriors every single year that climb up draft boards solely because of their workouts. Also, there is the possibility of another GM that just wouldn't take a guy in any circumstance that wasn't in for a workout. I think it's well worth it if you are sold on your guy early in the process.

With that said, I'm still curious about the information that Givony at DraftExpress wants to reveal but can't yet. Givony's been around long enough to respect his opinion. He puts in the leg work and legitimately is in contact with decision makers.

Celts17Pride · Post #71 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:52 pm

Aran Smith: We're hearing Reggie Jackson http://bit.ly/lwMvQO rumor is legitimate and very good chance that it's OKC that has given him a promise at 24 about 5 hours ago

gocelts · Post #72 » by **gocelts** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:08 pm

You forgot to mention Baby in the 07 draft who with all his limitations was still a VERY good 2nd round pick. Assuming Avery is bust, 4 out of 7 late round picks were decent to very good picks and that's decent overall. Also, If you consider Avery a bust, then you almost have to assume that odds will favor this years player to work out favorably for us.

repole wrote:
theman wrote:
GregB wrote:Avery Bradley for all we know could have excelled in a different situation. We still don't really know what he is, though so far he doesn't look like a great pick. Regardless, it's hard to develop a guy with potential when he's stuck on the bench. It's not like anyone drafted after him has shown much of anything yet other than Landry Fields (who'd of been a HUGE reach at that pick).

Harangody has/had as good of a shot as anyone drafted after him to be an NBA contributor.

Erden was a solid pick, getting a serviceable 7 footer in the late 2nd round is actually a pretty nice find.

Bill Walker was a quality draft pick, unfortunately Doc didn't understand that he could shoot 3s and totally wasted him.

Giddens was awful, there were a few solid players picked after him (especially Jordan), who would have fit in nicely here.

Pruitt was pretty bad too, Gasol would have been awesome at that pick, but again, very few thought Gasol was ever going to be more than an NBA backup (and for good reason, his game was very rigid....he's made some HUGE strides since then).

To me the only picks you can really fault him for were Pruitt and Giddens, every other pick we've had has been average to good. He hasn't hit a home run since Rondo, but pretty hard to do that in the late 1st round, on a playoff team that doesn't have minutes for their incoming rookies.

LongTimeFan · Post #73 » by **LongTimeFan** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:44 pm

I think it was the Rondo draft or maybe the Green draft. DA confided that the Celtics draft board looks like nobody else's board. I believe he indicated that we got a top five pick. (It must have been Rondo.) Since then DA's candor level has dropped a lot.

At 25, we're looking to draft a top 5 player. We're "All in" swinging for the fences with the bases loaded. We may not get one, and get a West or TA instead. We may also get a dud, like Giddens or Pruitt.

Rondo shut down and didn't even go to the combine. If DA honestly believes he's drafting a top 5 player at 25, then making a promise is the least of his concerns. The off chance a top 2 or 3 player falls is a risk. But far more likely is they'll be long gone. The issue is how to increase the chances he'll slide.

return2glory · Post #74 » by **return2glory** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:05 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Aran Smith: We're hearing Reggie Jackson http://bit.ly/lwMvQO rumor is legitimate and very good chance that it's OKC that has given him a promise at 24 about 5 hours ago

This makes a lot of sense if true. Here is why:

1. It looks clear that Jackson has a guarantee because he is skipping workouts and interviews. If he was hurt, he would just skip the workouts but not the interviews.
2. Givony at DraftExpress says its 100% false that Boston made Reggie Jackson a promise. That doesn't mean another team hasn't made him a promise.

So the bottom line is that Reggie Jackson has been made a promise, but it's not to Boston. It looks like he is going to OKC.

return2glory · Post #75 » by **return2glory** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:11 pm

I was actually looking forward to getting Reggie Jackson, especially that Ray just said he wouldn't have a problem coming off the bench.

Rondo and Reggie Jackson starting in the backcourt would be fun to watch. Two young, fast, athletic players with very long arms. Ray coming off the bench along with Jeff Green would make our bench a lot stronger.

Jackson would make sense in Boston because he would not cost too much. I would prefer JR Smith starting next to Rondo with Ray off the bench but Smith would cost us a lot more than Jackson. Also getting Smith would make it harder to sign a huge FA in 2012.

Either way, it looks like Reggie Jackson has a promise to OKC.

Celts17Pride · Post #76 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:41 pm

return2glory wrote:Either way, it looks like Reggie Jackson has a promise to OKC.

Unless Danny trades up.

theman · Post #77 » by **theman** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:19 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
return2glory wrote:Either way, it looks like Reggie Jackson has a promise to OKC.

Unless Danny trades up.

Or Danny has a trade in place to get out of the first round and the team he his trading the pick to has the promise in place.

JSABleedsGreen · Post #78 » by **JSABleedsGreen** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:01 pm

theman wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
return2glory wrote:Either way, it looks like Reggie Jackson has a promise to OKC.

Unless Danny trades up.

Or Danny has a trade in place to get out of the first round and the team he his trading the pick to has the promise in place.

Or this is another Danny playing hot potato again and trying to sell other teams a player whom really isn't worth what he's saying he's worth so players can drop and focus shifts away from the true intention. It's just Danny playing poker with the other teams......um....guess what guys Reggie Jackson can't shoot....we already have a guard who can't shoot and he's our starter.....even the backup has a limited range on his shooting.

Smokescreen....

gocelts · Post #79 » by **gocelts** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:36 pm

HAHA....this kid is going to come off the bench!?!?!?!?!?! You do realize we are talking about a playoff contender and not summer league.

I watch and go to basketball games to watch shooting guards score, not stare at their wingspan. A Rondo Reggie backcourt along with Green would be terrible offensively.

As I think Reggie is a nice prospect and even an okay choice at 25, I have absolutely NO wishful delusions that he will be able to contribute next season.

Celts17Pride · Post #80 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:51 pm

Ryan Feldman: TheHoopsReport.com has learned BC's Reggie Jackson may have an NBA Draft promise from the Portland Trail Blazers: http://bit.ly/mTcK9z about 51 minutes ago

Well it looks like he won't be coming to Boston. Celtics need size anyways.

EDIT:

Ryan Feldman: For those commenting, please read my story on Reggie Jackson to the Blazers first. I didn't say it's happening. It's a logical conclusion. about 1 hour ago

This guy is just guessing. I guess we will all find out on Thursday.