ProBasketballdraft.com: Raps and Utah trade partners?

dagger · Post #1 » by **dagger** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:08 pm

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Hearing some within the @Utah_Jazz believe UT should take Kanter 3rd & then trade #12 to the #Raptors for #5 & Brandon Knight.

This makes no sense. But the Raps and Utah are possible trade partners if we deal down.

SargentBargs101 · Post #2 » by **SargentBargs101** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:11 pm

Would be a good trade for Utah....

highness · Post #3 » by **highness** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:14 pm

lolwhut? Why would we trade our #5 for their #12?

bigdirty · Post #4 » by **bigdirty** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:14 pm

So wait, they trade us 12 and get our 5th pick? lol? Hi there, I would like your 10 dollar bill. I'll give you this shiny 5 dollar bill in return.
This thread is going to get flamed more than LilOzzy on a random youtube vid.

Komodo · Post #5 » by **Komodo** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:14 pm

Never heard of this site before, probably for a reason.

Post #6 » by **Schad** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:14 pm

SargentBargs101 wrote:Would be a good trade for Utah....

Yeah, what are they giving us to trade down from #5 to #12 in this scenario? That's kinda the determinant here.

Silk Wilkes · Post #7 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:15 pm

lol wut? #12 for #5? We look that stupid...?

Blazing_royale · Post #8 » by **Blazing_royale** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:15 pm

only Babcock would pull this type of deal

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #9 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:16 pm

What missing as what their incentive is to Toronto to drop down to 12? Kirlenko? Favours? Harris? Milsap?

If we can come out of the draft with AK and Byombo, that's got to be worth a look, right?

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #10 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:19 pm

From the Babcockian school of trades.

But yeah, Toronto and Utah could hook up for a draft day deal. I was thinking more along the lines of a pick swap involving #3 and #5, but even now, I'm not sure if that makes much sense. Utah could just go right ahead and take Knight or Kanter if they so choose at 3.

Post #11 » by **Rhettmatic** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:20 pm

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Utah would conceivably include Millsap or Jefferson in the deal w/ Toronto. The Raptors lack a physical big like this & want to improve int.

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Dropping down several spots would also put the Raptors in position to select Bismack Biyombo.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #12 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:22 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:
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Utah would conceivably include Millsap or Jefferson in the deal w/ Toronto. The Raptors lack a physical big like this & want to improve int.

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Dropping down several spots would also put the Raptors in position to select Bismack Biyombo.

Or maybe Devin Harris. I think we have enough PF-types as is.

Calderon · Post #13 » by **Calderon** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:22 pm

So we give up our pick for a big man and the potential to draft another big man? This is a poorly thought out rumour.

Weems · Post #14 » by **Weems** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:22 pm

This makes way too much sense.

HEDOBALL · Post #15 » by **HEDOBALL** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:22 pm

smokescreen

The deal is actually we give them the fifth overall pick.

That is all.

Post #16 » by **Schad** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:23 pm

Heh, talk about burying the lede if it's Millsap/Jefferson + 13 for 5. I'd want no part of Jefferson in that deal, though.

Deuces · Post #17 » by **Deuces** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:24 pm

i so confused.

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #18 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:24 pm

It's all, about what Utah wants to give up. If they are that high on both Kanter and Knight, they can get both, with this deal. Toronto my want Knight, but without this deal, he Utah will take him and Cavs take Kanter, and that leaves Tor looking at Val, Walker, Leonard, Vesely, Byombo, count back to 12 and one of those players, and Tobias Harris, or Jimmer should be there.

While, it sucks for us, it's not how high we value Kinight or Kanter, because Cle and Utah could nab them both. It's about what Utah give up. Even Raja Bell, would go along way on improving this team.

dagger · Post #19 » by **dagger** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:25 pm

As trade partners this makes sense, but as I told him in response, I can't see the Raptors taking on Jefferson or other big salary. Not until we see if there is an amnesty.

A deal that would interest me would be 5 for 12 + Gordon Hayward and Raja Bell, but Hayward's another white deliverer to the fans in Utah.

S.W.A.N · Post #20 » by **S.W.A.N** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:25 pm

dagger wrote:
Probasketballdraft
Hearing some within the @Utah_Jazz believe UT should take Kanter 3rd & then trade #12 to the #Raptors for #5 & Brandon Knight.

This makes no sense. But the Raps and Utah are possible trade partners if we deal down.

as I tweeted at you.

Harris and Hayward come to mind...

I doubt raps would be willing to let knight get away from them but If utah sweetend the deal enough. Perhaps Calderon and 5 for harris hayward and 12 then it would be worth it.

Otherwise they should try trade for the 4th pick. millsap and 12 for the 4th..