DRAFT THREAD part II: Come Together.... Right Now....

[Daminger]

If we keep Monta, is a bench 3 pt shooter slash extra ball-handler really what we need? Cant we just draft hansborough in the 2nd round and be done with it?

At this point, if we keep Monta I'd rather have Singleton if Biyombo isnt there.

I smell a Klay smokescreen by our FO...the Jerry West and Mark Jackson moves came out of nowhere, why would we tip our hat at every turn all of sudden? We've been quiet about Biyombo but attended his workout and he does fit a need not to mention he could be a homerun at a relatively safe spot (#11). Great work to help multiple guys slip to us.

[gswhoops]

I agree, at least I hope Klay is a smokescreen. If we draft him (and it doesn't come with an Ellis trade) then we haven't solved anything. Biyombo would be a much better pick for us, need-wise and upside-wise.

I'm really hoping we can figure out a way to get a early 20's pick and draft Jeremy Tyler. Kid's big, young and talented - perfect to take a gamble on.

[EvanZ]

It's odd that we didn't have Burks or Tristan Thompson work out for us. Both are squarely in our range, and both arguably are BPA and/or fit a need. Could it be that we are targeting one of them? Hmm...

[Left*My*Heart]

I really like Tyler too and think he is a guy worthy of a late first round or early second round pick. Because of his size and projected talent, he will be a late first rounder.

I really like Stone and would even love to see the Warriors either trade down or get a late first rounder to get him.

[old rem]

This draft is crap-shoot

Certainly in the lotto. Odd......lower are guys, JuJuan Johnson, Keith Benson, Jordan Williams who were double-double bigs...while guys like Motijunas...was a part timer in Europe. The trend has been for the high picks to be the "upside" freshmen....who teams ASSUME get much better..while guys who played 3-4 yr and actually ARE better are down at 20 and later. THIS year...that concept is kind of broken as half the "expected" upside guys decided to wait. If the VALUE was often in the post lottery most years, this time it's more so. After #20, the Early declare guys are not a big factor anyhow,and many of the guys in the pool may not have freak tools...but are good and solid. The lower end of this draft is NOT "weaker" but fairly typical. Many teams...probably noiced that,making the trade down a bit harder.

Yeah...Biyombo is a shotblock guy...so is Benson...but Benson has hands and a J and solid overal skills and will go 25-30. Jordan Williams was a PRIMO rebounder and played in the ACC...Kanter played...uh...no place.

[Left*My*Heart]

It's odd that we didn't have Burks or Tristan Thompson work out for us. Both are squarely in our range, and both arguably are BPA and/or fit a need. Could it be that we are targeting one of them? Hmm...

I prefer both over Klay and hopefully that is the case. I like Singleton better than Burks, which should also be around our range.

Burks is falling from what I have read due to his shooting range and rather weak frame.

[Soca]

Tristan Thompson wouldn't make any sense, he's too physically weak to play center. That limits him to a 10 minute reserve behind Lee.

[bay2hk]

Lmao at Knicks trying to trade up. They don't have anything to offer except Biendris/Bell/11th pick for Buildups/17th pick. I would be open to picking Biyombo or Donatas Motiejunas at 17. There are just too many better options at 11.

[Twinkie defense]

Obviously we need to add toughness, size, and defense. That doesn't mean we have to do that through the draft though - you have to take the best player available. So if the FO is convinced that the defensively-challenged (though long and B-Ball smart) Klay Thompson is the BPA, we should take him - and we can shore up the center position/defense through trade(s) and FA.

And if we have to go defense in the draft I would also vote for Leonard or Singleton, who while not as big as Biyombo, are actual basketball players. There's one place that I draw the line and that's with players who have lived and breathed the game, not physical specimens (like Patrick O'Bryant) who have physical tools but who are not ballers.

While short on game-changing talent, this draft has a number of players who could contribute to the Warriors at #11 (and lower). It would be a real shame if, instead of adding another contributor, we whiffed again on an underskilled big man like we did with Diogu, O'Bryant, Wright, and Randolph. Can't afford to keep missing in the draft.

[Daminger]

"further along" does not mean they're a homerun...let alone a double. Singleton cant hit the broad side of a barn with his jumper yet will be taking them. He can defend though. Kawhi Leonard is JUST developing a jumper...but he can defend. They all sound similar to me...they have their question marks but who's ceiling is higher? I dont think we should draft expecting the #11 pick to step in Day 1 and give us a turnaround. If a #11 pick can contribute at spots year #1 and set up to be special down the road...now that's a draft pick.

Just because Biyombo is a raw offensive project, does not mean that he cant contribute defensively in the interim while he develops. He's no giant stiff...he just has the long arms of one.

[bay2hk]

I don't have a problem with picking Biyombo but not with our 11th pick. Biyombo is a project and a late first rounder is where he should be picked. There are too many better players at 11.

Look at Memphis at the 09 draft. They went for defense with their number 2 pick when there were many skilled and proven players available like Evans, Curry, Harden, and Rubio. The Warriors don't wanna make that same mistake.

[jamesnamida]

Sooooo Draft Klay
Trade monta+ for a gasol brother or bynum
that'd be a nice dream.

it'll probably be
draft klay trade monta for crap
????
championship.

[Daminger]

We dont have the #2 pick and I wouldnt use the #2 on Biyombo. We have the #11 pick. In a poor draft that happens to have "depth" in picks #8-20. That is why its tough to find a consensus pick. Thabeet should not have been MEM's pick back in '09.

That being said...its going to come down to Klay vs. Biyombo, I believe.

[TB]

Eff these SGs in the first round.

My picks are the exact same as they were coming into this year:

Biyombo/singleton
Lighty.

Get er done Riley!

[Twinkie defense]

From Riley on KNBR with Ralph and Tom...

Says the fives in this draft, it's a short list and they will be gone before #11. Don't know if that means he thinks Biyombo is a four, he will be gone before #11, or he's just no good... though he sounds a little skeptical when specifically talking about him... "whoever drafts him will have a lot of work."

Philosophically, Riley also says he would lean towards the more proven player who might not have the unlimited upside, as opposed to the more questionable talent who could potentially be a "10."

In comparing Klay to Jimmer on their shooting, says Klay is the best shooter at the 2/3 and that translates very well to the NBA, as opposed to Fredette, may not translate as well. Also says Klay is not physically out of this world but he thinks he can be a successful position defender.

On the draft, Riley says 85%-90% of people who have a voice are in agreement on their draft board - he doesn't think there will be disagreements or vetoes.

And on some of our current players, he says he wants to see Udoh rebound better "if he's going to play the four(?)" and was encouraged but skeptical of Biedrins, wants to give him a "chance," but not overstate the possibility based on one good phone call. And also that he's basically Mark Jackson's problem now

[Daminger]

Smokescreen: "HEY EVERYBODY WE'RE TAKING KLAY T. AND BIEDRINS IS BACK, BABY!"

Draft Biyombo. He's the Tyson Chandler to our Barea/Terry backcourt he mentioned could work. Sounds like we're keeping Ellis now with them emphatically saying he will not be traded this draft/summer, etc...might need a biyombo to protect our high scoring backcourt.

Singleton is option 2.

[Twinkie defense]

Tyson Chandler is a seven-footer and plays at both ends... and Barea/Terry suck without J-Kidd - where's our J-Kidd?

[510TWSS]

Take Burks with the 11, offer cash to the Wolves plus the 2nd rounder from the Nets for their #20.

I'd take Jeremy Tyler, Chris Singleton, Darius Morris, or Reggie Jackson.

[Daminger]

Our JKidd can be found with our championship rings.

Yes, Chandler was on the offensive side of the floor with his team but mostly set picks, grabbed O boards and scored on put-backs or alley oops. I think they posted him up once?

[Daminger]

Another question is...

if Valuncilasjklsjsisazas buyout wont allow him to be in the NBA until the 12-13 season and he drops to us because of that...do we pick him?

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