Amnesty and what it means for us

[Vertical Limit]

I don't think Chicago would take him. He's a ballstopper and his defense is average at best. He isn't that great off the ball. Chicago needs someone like Ray Allen at SG.

[truthiness]

I don't think Chicago would take him. He's a ballstopper and his defense is average at best. He isn't that great off the ball. Chicago needs someone like Ray Allen at SG.

Actually, ben gordon is a poor man's Ray Allen.
As a shooter he's damn good, including off the ball. In fact, you want him OFF the ball as much as possible, because when he tries to do stuff with the ball he's slipping and sliding and all over the place.

Ray Allen is much better at penetrating, even now, than Gordon ever was or will be. Gordon is purely a shooter, can't do much of anything else. But as a shooter, he's damn good.

In his first 5 years in Chicago he was more or less on pace to catch Ray Allen in 3pm. He took far fewer per game in his 2 years in Detroit, though. His 3p% is slightly better than Ray Allen's.

If he could be had for MLE or less, he could start at PG. As long as all he has to do is shoot open 3's and not have to handle the ball (Lebron and Wade would do that), he'd be a GREAT FIT.

[StrawberryShake]

I don't think Chicago would take him. He's a ballstopper and his defense is average at best. He isn't that great off the ball. Chicago needs someone like Ray Allen at SG.

Actually, ben gordon is a poor man's Ray Allen.
As a shooter he's damn good, including off the ball. In fact, you want him OFF the ball as much as possible, because when he tries to do stuff with the ball he's slipping and sliding and all over the place.

Ray Allen is much better at penetrating, even now, than Gordon ever was or will be. Gordon is purely a shooter, can't do much of anything else. But as a shooter, he's damn good.

In his first 5 years in Chicago he was more or less on pace to catch Ray Allen in 3pm. He took far fewer per game in his 2 years in Detroit, though. His 3p% is slightly better than Ray Allen's.

If he could be had for MLE or less, he could start at PG. As long as all he has to do is shoot open 3's and not have to handle the ball (Lebron and Wade would do that), he'd be a GREAT FIT.

yes he would. i doubt hed go to chicago.

i see chicago getting jr smith

[DWadeno3]

I don't think Chicago would take him. He's a ballstopper and his defense is average at best. He isn't that great off the ball. Chicago needs someone like Ray Allen at SG.

Actually, ben gordon is a poor man's Ray Allen.
As a shooter he's damn good, including off the ball. In fact, you want him OFF the ball as much as possible, because when he tries to do stuff with the ball he's slipping and sliding and all over the place.

Ray Allen is much better at penetrating, even now, than Gordon ever was or will be. Gordon is purely a shooter, can't do much of anything else. But as a shooter, he's damn good.

In his first 5 years in Chicago he was more or less on pace to catch Ray Allen in 3pm. He took far fewer per game in his 2 years in Detroit, though. His 3p% is slightly better than Ray Allen's.

If he could be had for MLE or less, he could start at PG. As long as all he has to do is shoot open 3's and not have to handle the ball (Lebron and Wade would do that), he'd be a GREAT FIT.

Simply because the ball should not be in D-Wade's and LeBron's hands so much, Gordon is a horrible fit. He's not a good defender, his ball handling is average and all he can really do is shoot the basketball very well. So no, he wouldn't be a great fit for us. I don't understand where this misguided perception of us simply needing a shooter at the point comes from. Having a PG who initiates your offense, dictates the pace and is capable of reading the other team's defense is crucial to your success.
Every contender basically has a decent PG. The Mavs have Kidd, the Spurs have Parker, the Celtics have Rondo, the Bulls have Rose, the Thunder have Westbrook (even his point guard skills are far superior to Gordon's) and the Lakers have Derek Fisher. In fact, a Fisher-type of player is all we need. Somebody who can run an offense, somewhat defend, knock down outside shots and is not afrad of the moment. But please stop the Ben Gordon at point guard garbage.

[GreenHat]

I don't know why they feel the need to change the CBA dramatically. IMO if you trimmed one year off what is allowed in a contract, and made the yearly raises smaller, you'd just about be there.

If you took a year off contracts, last year this would have been freed up:
Jamal Crawford 10 mill
Morris Peterson 6.6 mill
Joel Pryzbilla 7.4 mill
Caron Butler 11 mill
Kenyon Martin 16 mill
Tayshaun Prince 11 mill
Troy Murphy 12 mill
Vladamir Radmanovic 7 mill
Yao Ming 17.7 mill
Jared Jeffries 7 mill
Mike Dunleavy 10.5 mill
TJ Ford 8.5 mill
Jeff Foster 6.6 mill
Jamaal Tinsley 5.5 mill
Marko Jaric 7.6 mill
Shane Battier 7.4 mill
Michael Redd 18.3 mill
Eddy Curry 11.2 mill
Dan Gazuric 7.2 mill
Sasha Vujacic 5.5 mill
Nazr Mohammed 6.9 mill
Jason Richardson 14.4 mill
Jason Kapono 6.6 mill
Samuel Dalembert 12.2 mill
Predrag Stojakovic 14.9 mill
Reggie Evans 5 mill
Andrei Kirilenko 17.8 mill
Mike Bibby 5.5 mill

There is 277.8 million. Teams lost 300 million apparently last year. Add in some smaller contracts I didn't list, and you are there. Some of these guys get signed to another contract, but they probably push out some of the 'bad' contracts that are usually given. More players on the market usually means you get paid closer to worth. Thin FA markets mean players get overpaid. So this helps there. You factor in previous years where players would have ended a year earlier, and overall, teams have better products, don't have a lot of dead weight.

I think that is all that needs changing.

Possibly change the MLE to instead be half average salary (closer to 3 mill than 6). Would suck for us, but be good for the league.

The problem is that, shortening the contracts really doesn't save the owners any money, it just shifts who gets paid but most owners don't really care about who they have to pay.

Even if the teams didn't spend any of that money that they would save in your example, they would still end up paying it out anyway. There is an agreed upon BR% and if the salaries don't reach it then I believe the owners have to payout of an escrow fund so that they reach that BR%. If salaries are over the BR% then those escrow account go back to the owners so to the point that the BR% is the agreed amount.

So no matter all these little rule changes it still pays out pretty much the same. The whole CBA comes down to the BR% because that's how much money actually gets paid out. Most of the other issues are just posturing for the negotiations and the fans.