[Draft News] - Knicks Like Julyan Stone? 76'ers & Brooks?

[BelieveTheDream]

yes, I agree.

my point is that Im not looking to draft our starting point for the future of this franchise at 17 in this draft. Or center certainly.

Ill be happy with a 15min a night role play who brings energy, effort, IQ and a single talent like passing, defense, rebounding or shooting

Keep in mind what I said prior though, in that if the guy is dynamic and wows, he could help make a Chris Paul offer easier. I think that's what the Knicks are also looking it (in addition to not wanting another Steph Curry/Russell Westbrook situation), and that they're looking for assets to build for a Paul offer too.

--Mags

I cant tell u how mad I would be if the draft is going on and the pick before our's if we trade or not they pick the guy we want like in steph curry...I remember like it was yesterday Steph was falling and falling and Im like CURRY AND GALLO WOULD BE UN REAL TOGETHER!!!!!!!!! Curry I really felt could of been our PG for the next 10-15 years.....So the Warriors pick is up and im like there is no way they pick Curry they have Monta what in the hell would be the point of that so in my head I was so confident and when He was taken by the warriors I was in complete shock I couldn't believe it and to make it worse we panicked and took Jordan Hill which I knew from the start was a mistake and that draft prettty much was an absoutlue waste,we are now still looking for our PG not to mention a big so that draft really screwed us big time....

If Bismack is available and he gets taken ahead of us I will break something haha

[krustytheclown]

can the draft just come already? tired of the speculation btw mags great job as usual.

[magnumt]

this stone kid averaged 7/5/5 in college he reminds me of mardy collins I guess numbers wise but we should not waste a pick on him he could go undrafted

Re-read the Thread. Dude is NOT going undrafted. The Lakers are his bottom, as they have 4 2nd Rounders. And like I said, if Jenkins and Tyler are gone, I can see the Heat taking a flyer on him too.

Also, read the OP in this Thread...it doesn't say NY is going to use #17 to take him, but may look to take him with a late 1st or 2nd Rounder.

--Mags

[NoLayupRule]

yes, I agree.

my point is that Im not looking to draft our starting point for the future of this franchise at 17 in this draft. Or center certainly.

Ill be happy with a 15min a night role play who brings energy, effort, IQ and a single talent like passing, defense, rebounding or shooting

Keep in mind what I said prior though, in that if the guy is dynamic and wows, he could help make a Chris Paul offer easier. I think that's what the Knicks are also looking it (in addition to not wanting another Steph Curry/Russell Westbrook situation), and that they're looking for assets to build for a Paul offer too.

--Mags

Im worried to draft with the intention of moving the pick for Paul or whomever btu yes, thats an excellent argument.

I guess I just have little faith that many of the players in this draft will amount to starters in this league. seems like a lot of hustling to get a career backup

Jimmer even is hard to imagine as a starter. If Biyombo pans out he could be Big Ben born again. Obviously the top 4 picks should be starter quality. there are a few guys who could be big surprises including Brooks but this is a tough draft for sure

[magnumt]

yes, I agree.

my point is that Im not looking to draft our starting point for the future of this franchise at 17 in this draft. Or center certainly.

Ill be happy with a 15min a night role play who brings energy, effort, IQ and a single talent like passing, defense, rebounding or shooting

Keep in mind what I said prior though, in that if the guy is dynamic and wows, he could help make a Chris Paul offer easier. I think that's what the Knicks are also looking it (in addition to not wanting another Steph Curry/Russell Westbrook situation), and that they're looking for assets to build for a Paul offer too.

--Mags

Im worried to draft with the intention of moving the pick for Paul or whomever btu yes, thats an excellent argument.

I guess I just have little faith that many of the players in this draft will amount to starters in this league. seems like a lot of hustling to get a career backup

Jimmer even is hard to imagine as a starter. If Biyombo pans out he could be Big Ben born again. Obviously the top 4 picks should be starter quality. there are a few guys who could be big surprises including Brooks but this is a tough draft for sure

Well yeah it is risky. But what's the downside? The dynamic Player you drafted to possibly include in a Paul Trade is excellent, but Paul isn't coming? So what...we'd get to keep said dynamic Player.

People said the same thing about the Gallo and Steph Curry Drafts. It was weak, Top Heavy, or the main targets for NY were chuckers, who were soft, tweeners, or too skinny.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat happened?!

Coming away with Klay, Jimmer, or Brooks would be ideal and a WINNING Draft IMO (A+ Grade). With Jimmer being target #1 IMO.

I'd be happy with others like Biyombo, Burks, etc. But Jimmer, Klay, and Brooks shop be the top guys we try to get.

--Mags

[magnumt]

can the draft just come already? tired of the speculation btw mags great job as usual.

Glad to help.

And yeah, I remember that well. Same thing happened the Year before with Westbrook.

--Mags

[NoLayupRule]

fair enough. Brooks worries me with his tendency to dominate the ball and take bad possessions. I think on this team he would struggle because we are supposedly all about ball movement and getting the ball to our stars to dominate and take bad possessions.

Id be afraid his star would fade here

[BasicBall]

I told you guys a month ago that Stone was a sleeper pick for NY

[BasicBall]

this stone kid averaged 7/5/5 in college he reminds me of mardy collins I guess numbers wise but we should not waste a pick on him he could go undrafted

I dont think Stone will go undrafted

[magnumt]

fair enough. Brooks worries me with his tendency to dominate the ball and take bad possessions. I think on this team he would struggle because we are supposedly all about ball movement and getting the ball to our stars to dominate and take bad possessions.

Id be afraid his star would fade here

Westbrook is the same way. You tell me you'd turn down Drafting Westbrook? Not saying Brooks is Westbrook ('cause he's not), but you get my point, right?

--Mags

[moocow007]

Keep in mind what I said prior though, in that if the guy is dynamic and wows, he could help make a Chris Paul offer easier. I think that's what the Knicks are also looking it (in addition to not wanting another Steph Curry/Russell Westbrook situation), and that they're looking for assets to build for a Paul offer too.

--Mags

Im worried to draft with the intention of moving the pick for Paul or whomever btu yes, thats an excellent argument.

I guess I just have little faith that many of the players in this draft will amount to starters in this league. seems like a lot of hustling to get a career backup

Jimmer even is hard to imagine as a starter. If Biyombo pans out he could be Big Ben born again. Obviously the top 4 picks should be starter quality. there are a few guys who could be big surprises including Brooks but this is a tough draft for sure

Well yeah it is risky. But what's the downside? The dynamic Player you drafted to possibly include in a Paul Trade is excellent, but Paul isn't coming? So what...we'd get to keep said dynamic Player.

People said the same thing about the Gallo and Steph Curry Drafts. It was weak, Top Heavy, or the main targets for NY were chuckers, who were soft, tweeners, or too skinny.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat happened?!

Coming away with Klay, Jimmer, or Brooks would be ideal and a WINNING Draft IMO (A+ Grade). With Jimmer being target #1 IMO.

I'd be happy with others like Biyombo, Burks, etc. But Jimmer, Klay, and Brooks shop be the top guys we try to get.

--Mags

Yeah I agree.

[krustytheclown]

can the draft just come already? tired of the speculation btw mags great job as usual.

Glad to help.

And yeah, I remember that well. Same thing happened the Year before with Westbrook.

--Mags

damn those thunder and their great front office :shakes fist:

[j4remi]

Well yeah it is risky. But what's the downside? The dynamic Player you drafted to possibly include in a Paul Trade is excellent, but Paul isn't coming? So what...we'd get to keep said dynamic Player.

People said the same thing about the Gallo and Steph Curry Drafts. It was weak, Top Heavy, or the main targets for NY were chuckers, who were soft, tweeners, or too skinny.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat happened?!

Coming away with Klay, Jimmer, or Brooks would be ideal and a WINNING Draft IMO (A+ Grade). With Jimmer being target #1 IMO.

I'd be happy with others like Biyombo, Burks, etc. But Jimmer, Klay, and Brooks shop be the top guys we try to get.

--Mags

Co-sign all of this. Though I have Klay as #1. This draft is such a mystery, it's ridiculous. There was a point where Jimmer could fall to us, Bismack was never getting close to us, Klay and Brooks were in play but had a lot to prove...now Klay and Jimmer are pretty much no shot, we have to pray for Bismack, Brooks may get stolen away two picks away from us and we'll likely reach on someone. Knicks have rumors about moving up in the draft, swapping back-up PG's with our 30th pick from a draft for the 6th pick...and we're the ones looking for more compensation. We keep hearing about the Knicks grabbing a second pick be it late first or in the second round...but I've heard more talk of promises and second round steals than in previous drafts.

I don't know what to expect but if we walk away with any of Biyombo, Klay, Brooks or Jimmer (but this feels just like that Steph Curry draft where I was dreaming of getting any of Rubio, Harden or Steph Curry with a move down for Ty Lawson as the last ditch...and we got none of the above). I'm ecstatic. Valenciunas, you never know right? Selby, I wouldn't mind the reach...and I'd like a late pick of Tyler as well.

[magnumt]

Well yeah it is risky. But what's the downside? The dynamic Player you drafted to possibly include in a Paul Trade is excellent, but Paul isn't coming? So what...we'd get to keep said dynamic Player.

People said the same thing about the Gallo and Steph Curry Drafts. It was weak, Top Heavy, or the main targets for NY were chuckers, who were soft, tweeners, or too skinny.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat happened?!

Coming away with Klay, Jimmer, or Brooks would be ideal and a WINNING Draft IMO (A+ Grade). With Jimmer being target #1 IMO.

I'd be happy with others like Biyombo, Burks, etc. But Jimmer, Klay, and Brooks shop be the top guys we try to get.

--Mags

Co-sign all of this. Though I have Klay as #1. This draft is such a mystery, it's ridiculous. There was a point where Jimmer could fall to us, Bismack was never getting close to us, Klay and Brooks were in play but had a lot to prove...now Klay and Jimmer are pretty much no shot, we have to pray for Bismack, Brooks may get stolen away two picks away from us and we'll likely reach on someone. Knicks have rumors about moving up in the draft, swapping back-up PG's with our 30th pick from a draft for the 6th pick...and we're the ones looking for more compensation. We keep hearing about the Knicks grabbing a second pick be it late first or in the second round...but I've heard more talk of promises and second round steals than in previous drafts.

I don't know what to expect but if we walk away with any of Biyombo, Klay, Brooks or Jimmer (but this feels just like that Steph Curry draft where I was dreaming of getting any of Rubio, Harden or Steph Curry with a move down for Ty Lawson as the last ditch...and we got none of the above). I'm ecstatic. Valenciunas, you never know right? Selby, I wouldn't mind the reach...and I'd like a late pick of Tyler as well.

IF, and a BIG IF...we were to Trade into the Top 10 (I doubt it), and Jimmer is gone. I'd take Klay and do the Trade with Minny for Flynn (and hope to get #20 too).

I'd Draft a Defensive F/C at #17 and buy a 2nd Rounder or 2, and add some Defensive Players that may have fallen.

We'd walk away with Klay (assuming Jimmer gone), Flynn, Defensive F/C, and Defensive Guards/SFs that fell into 2nd Round.

Fill out a TON of needs on one night AND add potential assets for a Chris Paul offer.

--Mags

[Knick Swisher]

Mags your draft coverage has been impeccable this year. Before any discussion, I think you deserve a friggin appreciation thread for the work you've put in!

+1. It's been crazy trying to keep up with all of the draft chatter, but Mags, you've been great.

As far as Julyan Stone, he would be a nice get with a 2nd rounder. Yeah he cant shoot, but he's athletic and can defend multiple positions. Def worth the risk.

[magnumt]

Mags your draft coverage has been impeccable this year. Before any discussion, I think you deserve a friggin appreciation thread for the work you've put in!

+1. It's been crazy trying to keep up with all of the draft chatter, but Mags, you've been great.

As far as Julyan Stone, he would be a nice get with a 2nd rounder. Yeah he cant shoot, but he's athletic and can defend multiple positions. Def worth the risk.

Thanks.

[Greenie]

I don't understand whats with all the Stone love, but Darius Morris gets hated on......he's better than Stone! He's a "big" PG too.

[magnumt]

I don't understand whats with all the Stone love, but Darius Morris gets hated on......he's better than Stone! He's a "big" PG too.

DM was part of the Group that got a callback for a 2nd invite today in a hush-hush workout for the Knicks.

--Mags

[thebuzzardman]

I don't understand whats with all the Stone love, but Darius Morris gets hated on......he's better than Stone! He's a "big" PG too.

DM was part of the Group that got a callback for a 2nd invite today in a hush-hush workout for the Knicks.

--Mags

The hush hush workout the whole Internet knows about?

[DocZaius]

smsmsmsmsmsmoke screen!!!