Official Transaction Ideas thread

[Doormatt]

If there is any chance lakers can trade Gasol for Love and the number 2 lakers should jump all over it id include anything outside of odom bynum kobe... Now I dont think Min does it so dont call me a homer but I think Brandon Knight will be the best player in this draft

I actually agree that B. Knight, when it's all said and done, will be the best player to have come out of this draft. If the lakers could do something outside of trading Bynum and Kobe to get him, I'd be all for it. I really wouldn't mind trading Gasol for a decent PF and a pick high enough to get him. That's why I love that Blatche/Lewis/6th pick for Gasol idea.

[Jetset]

Knight will be gone at #3 to Utah. 6th pick is garbage.

[Jetset]

Pau is making over 17 million next year. Hope Minn has that much under the cap. Love must make around 5 million. So that makes it about 12 million Minn would need to have free and clear.

I see this as the trade of the day. A new one will pop up later this week I bet.

Pau got us 2 rings...Can not forget that.

Do need to get younger at any cost.

I loved your whole "NOLA on the Hornets jerseys meaning NO Los Angeles" thing. That made me lol.

[Jajwanda]

There's a rumor going around about Johnny Flynn. No credible stuff, but just makes some sense.

[stankubrick13]

IDEA !!!!

rumors are circulating about gasol for love and the # 2 pick. I think if this actually happens, lakers trade the number 2 for a top pg...

so...how about this?

lakers out: gasol,
lakers in: nash, love, dudley

minn out: # 2, love
minn in: Gasol, Robin Lopez, la #1 2012, phx # 1 2012

phx out: nash, dudley, lopez
phx in: # 2, ridnour, fisher (bought out), Pekovic, barnes, ebanks

lakers get love, nash, and a a great 3 pt specialist in dudley (plus he's a good defender as well). we get a tad quicker with dudley and nash (i know he's old, but he's still steve nash). we also get younger with love. Bynum and Love can be our frontcourt for the next 1 2 years...

minnesota gets Gasol, a friend and mentor to rubio, and they get something in return for love, who will bolt once a free agent. they also get two future firsts which can be nice.

phx? they get the number 2 in the draft and some good value for nash who will be retiring soon...

one thing to remember, to everybody who thinks love plus # 2 for gasol in unfair, rumors are rumors that love is bolting minny. if they dont trade him, they will get NOTHING for him. this is why minny likes the idea of this trade. even with gasol, they will be incredibly young with rubio, wes johnson, webster, and beasley.

what you all think?

[hoops_32]

What would we give up for Flynn? A draft pick or our TPE? He is decent but I'd rather have Brandon Knight. Trade Odom for the #2 pick and Milicic. Then trade the #2 and Milicic to Cleveland for the #4 and Varajao. I think Knight could still be had for the 4th pick as I think Utah will draft Kanter #3 and Jimmer #12. I think that Knight could be the best player in the draft and getting him and Varajao for Odom would be steal. Can't wait to see what unfolds on draft night because I believe we will be doing something.

[urinesane]

Zero chance of Love+#2 for Gasol, you guys seriously overrate your players. I wouldn't even do Love for Gasol straight up, Love is young and on the rise, Gasol is getting older and on the decline.

Same with any of the LO rumors...just terrible. You don't trade the #2 pick for a 6th man, even if he is 6th man of the year.

As for the "Love will bolt from minny" talk, there has been zero talk of that whatsoever from any credible source. Also I think you forget that he will be a RFA and if he keeps playing like last year the Wolves will match any offer out there.

[Jajwanda]

Nah Flynn would be a minor deal. He's great for the system, as he's just lightning quick in the P and R.

[EnigmaticProblem]

Flynn is absolutely WUTTLESS-- Until he proves otherwise, at least. I don't want the Lakers to give him that opportunity to prove himself. However, if Flynn came over, in say. . . A 'Flynn/Love/#2 for Gasol/#41' trade, I'd smile, perhaps laugh, mimic Mr. Burns' "excellent" for a bit, accept, and walk away. Having said that, I'd do that trade even if you removed Flynn.

Now, for those fans looking for a complete renovation, what do y'all think of this? I'm just laying out the foundation-- Y'all can get creative with back ups, and what not. . .

1. Love/#2 for Gasol/#41
2. (a) #2/Bynum/Artest, or (b) Bynum/Odom for Howard/'Filler'
3. Blake/Walton/Barnes for Baron Davis
4. Pick up Vince Carter/Shane Battier and Joel Pryzbilla

(A)
PG: Davis/Fisher
SG: Bryant/Brown
SF: Carter or Battier/Filler
PF: Love/Odom
C: Dwight/Pryzbilla

(B)
PG: Davis/Fisher
SG: Bryant/Brown/Carter or Battier
SF: Artest/Williams/Carter or Battier
PF: Love
C: Howard/Pryzbilla

However, personally, my favourite option would be neither of the preceding. . .
Bynum/Odom/4 draft picks for Dwight/Filler is pretty much all we need to do. Add in some free agency band-aids, a la Carter/McGrady/Battier/Pryzbilla, and we're good to go. Blake/Walton/Barnes for Baron Davis is plausible (given the Kyrie addition), so if that were executed, it'd definitely help, as well. I think a team of Kobe+Gasol+Bynum can win multiple championships.

P.S., The only way Orlando gets a better offer than Bynum/Odom for Dwight is if Miami decides to trade one of LeBron or Wade. Right?

[EnigmaticProblem]

Zero chance of Love+#2 for Gasol, you guys seriously overrate your players. I wouldn't even do Love for Gasol straight up, Love is young and on the rise, Gasol is getting older and on the decline.

Same with any of the LO rumors...just terrible. You don't trade the #2 pick for a 6th man, even if he is 6th man of the year.

As for the "Love will bolt from minny" talk, there has been zero talk of that whatsoever from any credible source. Also I think you forget that he will be a RFA and if he keeps playing like last year the Wolves will match any offer out there.

Don't kid yourself, darling. Gasol is worth more than any two players your team can combine. Gasol is, without a doubt, headed to the Hall Of Fame. The Wolves don't have anyone with that sort of potential, at the moment.

P.S., The "Gasol is on the decline" gibberish is getting trite, hombre.

What would we give up for Flynn? A draft pick or our TPE? He is decent but I'd rather have Brandon Knight. Trade Odom for the #2 pick and Milicic. Then trade the #2 and Milicic to Cleveland for the #4 and Varajao. I think Knight could still be had for the 4th pick as I think Utah will draft Kanter #3 and Jimmer #12. I think that Knight could be the best player in the draft and getting him and Varajao for Odom would be steal. Can't wait to see what unfolds on draft night because I believe we will be doing something.

I've heard Utah is in love with Knight. I really don't see them picking up anyone else. . .

However, that isn't a horrible thing, as it makes Devin Harris very obtainable. I don't know why no one here is excited about Harris.

[Jajwanda]

So are the assets we're giving up for Flynn. He's proved that he belongs when playing outside of the triangle in the P and R.

[urinesane]

Zero chance of Love+#2 for Gasol, you guys seriously overrate your players. I wouldn't even do Love for Gasol straight up, Love is young and on the rise, Gasol is getting older and on the decline.

Same with any of the LO rumors...just terrible. You don't trade the #2 pick for a 6th man, even if he is 6th man of the year.

As for the "Love will bolt from minny" talk, there has been zero talk of that whatsoever from any credible source. Also I think you forget that he will be a RFA and if he keeps playing like last year the Wolves will match any offer out there.

Don't kid yourself, darling. Gasol is worth more than any two players your team can combine. Gasol is, without a doubt, headed to the Hall Of Fame. The Wolves don't have anyone with that sort of potential, at the moment.

P.S., The "Gasol is on the decline" gibberish is getting trite, hombre.

What would we give up for Flynn? A draft pick or our TPE? He is decent but I'd rather have Brandon Knight. Trade Odom for the #2 pick and Milicic. Then trade the #2 and Milicic to Cleveland for the #4 and Varajao. I think Knight could still be had for the 4th pick as I think Utah will draft Kanter #3 and Jimmer #12. I think that Knight could be the best player in the draft and getting him and Varajao for Odom would be steal. Can't wait to see what unfolds on draft night because I believe we will be doing something.

I've heard Utah is in love with Knight. I really don't see them picking up anyone else. . .

However, that isn't a horrible thing, as it makes Devin Harris very obtainable. I don't know why no one here is excited about Harris.

How old is Gasol? How old is Love? How much money do they make?

Gasol will not make the Wolves a contender, so at best it's a lateral move. Again you guys can value Gasol and Odom as highly as you want, but none of these trades would help the Wolves. Laugh as much as you want about Kahn, he does not take bad value in trades.

Love is the one untouchable on the Wolves roster right now.

Oh gee wiz mister, please take our up an coming franchise player for someone who is getting older and is about to start the end of his career. The Wolves don't deserve good players as much as the Lakers do!

Yay he could speak spanish with Ricky and bring up the average age of the team! The Wolves would be lucky to trade Beasley, Love, Rubio, the #2 and Crunch for the #58 (sick value) and Gasol.

[urinesane]

Also you guys don't want Flynn in the triangle, he won't turn it around until he gets into an offense that is heavily PnR.

[Jajwanda]

That's what we are. We're in a system that runs heavy amounts of P and R based off of two big men giving spacing for a very efficient drive. It's very difficult to stop dribble-penetration with bigs like Odom and Gasol at the top of the key and Bynum will be in position to be an easy dish.

[EnigmaticProblem]

Gasol is only 30. . . Quit acting like he's 42. Moreover, no aspect of Gasol's game relies on his athleticism, so I don't see why he couldn't play at this level until he hits 36 (at the very least). You're right, though. . . Love is much better value, 'cause of his contract. The disparity, in terms of trade value, is much more marginal than you believe, hombre.

P.S., Who doesn't laugh at Kahn? lol..

[urinesane]

The triangle is not PnR heavy it's mostly the point guard passing off the ball and getting to the corner.

Though I did forget that Brown is the new coach, so you're probably right as far as the new system.

[Jajwanda]

The triangle has very little P and R.

We run the Spurs late 90s-early 00s offense with its two big men. We're going to run quite a bit of P and R making guys like Reggie Jackson, Johnny Flynn, Norris Cole, and other guys that can turn the corner very dangerous. Derek Fisher is about the last guy we should use.

[stankubrick13]

again, Lakers fans are not making up these gasol for love/# 2 rumors. we didn't create this rumor. it's been on sportscenter and other journalists have commented on it. maybe sometimes we overvalue our own players, but in this case, this has a legit chance of happening. and again, GASOL is 30, he's not 36. the only reason the lakers are looking to trade him (or may be looking to trade him) is because 1. he and kobe have a worn out relationship by now 2. we want to involve bynum more, which means throwing the ball into gasol, less, and 3. we want to get younger.

though i dont think gasol for love /#2 is entirely fair, i think its a start. this is why i think a third team might be involved so that minny receives a but more.

But for all you realgm folk out there. laker fans know gasols value. sure he had a tough playoff run, but he is a top 10 nba talent, and maybe the best 4 in the league regardless. but we have a great 5, and a great 4 in odom. we need a PG. and so, pau is expendable, if, we can get other pieces for good value.

[urinesane]

Gasol is only 30. . . Quit acting like he's 42. Moreover, no aspect of Gasol's game relies on his athleticism, so I don't see why he couldn't play at this level until he hits 36 (at the very least). You're right, though. . . Love is much better value, 'cause of his contract. The disparity, in terms of trade value, is much more marginal than you believe, hombre.

P.S., Who doesn't laugh at Kahn? lol..

Gasol has shown that he can play very well on a team with a great coach and great players. His Memphis days weren't exactly magical, so to expect him to keep up the same production going to a worse team as he gets older is just wishful thinking. Bottom line: Gasol and Odom have much higher value to a team contending for a championship (or on the edge) than a team that is young and rebuilding.

There is no reason for the Wolves to trade for either player as they do not currently fill a glaring need (SG and Center) and trading the Lakers the Wolves best player and a #2 lottery pick for a player that will not be a big part of their future and won't make them a contender doesn't make sense. It only makes sense to you because it helps your team, then you try to justify in someway why the Wolves aren't getting traderaped.

The Wolves don't need forwards right now, so there is no reason to trade with the Lakers.

[Asianiac_24]

Gasol for Love/#2 is absolute rape