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Post#1261 » by Penberthy » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:55 am

urinesane wrote:
EnigmaticProblem wrote:Gasol is only 30. . . Quit acting like he's 42. Moreover, no aspect of Gasol's game relies on his athleticism, so I don't see why he couldn't play at this level until he hits 36 (at the very least). You're right, though. . . Love is much better value, 'cause of his contract. The disparity, in terms of trade value, is much more marginal than you believe, hombre.

P.S., Who doesn't laugh at Kahn? lol..


Gasol has shown that he can play very well on a team with a great coach and great players. His Memphis days weren't exactly magical, so to expect him to keep up the same production going to a worse team as he gets older is just wishful thinking. Bottom line: Gasol and Odom have much higher value to a team contending for a championship (or on the edge) than a team that is young and rebuilding.

There is no reason for the Wolves to trade for either player as they do not currently fill a glaring need (SG and Center) and trading the Lakers the Wolves best player and a #2 lottery pick for a player that will not be a big part of their future and won't make them a contender doesn't make sense. It only makes sense to you because it helps your team, then you try to justify in someway why the Wolves aren't getting traderaped.

The Wolves don't need forwards right now, so there is no reason to trade with the Lakers.


Its funny to me that you mention them being loaded at a certain position, as if that precludes them from taking on any more players at that position. I mean, we are talking about the team that drafted 17 PGs in the same draft right?
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#1262 » by urinesane » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:23 am

This is another lazy view and overblown issue.

Drafted Rubio at #5, he wasn't a guarantee to come over right away.
Drafted Flynn at #6, this was a bad pick for sure, should have been Curry or Derozan.

Now this is where it gets overblown, notice they drafted 2 PGs, not the greatest thing, but not the OMG they drafted a team of all PGs!!!!

The #18 pick that everyone loves to make fun of WAS ALREADY TRADED BEFORE THE PICK WAS MADE. The Wolves were picking Lawson for Denver, they didn't draft him and then decide to trade him, the pick was Denver's, the Wolves just picked what they told them to.

Later on they spent a 2nd round pick on an overseas prospect PG which is probably just trying to get the best asset left for a future trade (which they did end up trading).

2 PGs people, not that crazy, stop letting ESPN tell you your opinion.
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Post#1263 » by Penberthy » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:12 pm

2008: mayo, chalmers (great trades btw)
2009: rubio, flynn, lawson, ellington, calathes

not to mention how many guards did they already have on their squad at that point?
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Post#1264 » by cavsfan_osiris » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:53 pm

Why the hell would the Wolves trade Love and #2 for Pau? It would make no sense at all on any level.
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Post#1265 » by Gek » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:04 pm

What do you guys think about trying to pick up Dalembert as a back up with part of the MLE (assuming we straighten out our PG issues).
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Post#1266 » by Slava » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:14 pm

G=K wrote:What do you guys think about trying to pick up Dalembert as a back up with part of the MLE (assuming we straighten out our PG issues).


As been said before he'll get a starting spot at either Boston or Miami for the full MLE.

If we decide to keep our frontcourt intact we might as well invest/trade for shooters.
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Post#1267 » by The Skyhook » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:59 pm

This is piece from Woj.
The Los Angeles Lakers and Sacramento Kings are two teams with interest in prying Raymond Felton

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... aft_062011
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Post#1268 » by BEazy » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:18 pm

Timberwolves are amazingly dumb! They just offered #2 for Bynum...you've got to be kidding me....2nd best center in the LEAGUE for a unproven rookie? I hope we just shut down all trade talks with these idiots if they think they can just steal like that from us.
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Post#1269 » by Jetset » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:20 pm

^ Link.
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Post#1270 » by Jajwanda » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:22 pm

Just pay some cash moving around to get a late first, draft a PG, draft a couple of prospects, and call it a day.
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Post#1271 » by hoops_32 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:31 pm

While these rumors are fun to talk about I don't see us doing anything big. I think we will trade for a 1st rounder and draft a PG. Then in free agency sign a backup C like Jeff Foster and a SG like JR Smith. If we can do that I'd be happy.
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Post#1272 » by Jajwanda » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:33 pm

I'd be more than happy with that.
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Post#1273 » by BEazy » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:57 pm

Jetset wrote:^ Link.


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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#1274 » by Mr_President » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:02 pm

GSW Trades: Stephen Curry, Andris Biedrins, Charlie Bell (exp)

LAL Trades: Andrew Bynum, Steve Blake

LAL Lineup:

Curry/Fisher
Kobe/Barnes/Bell
Artest/Odom
Pau/Odom
Biedrins

Stephen Curry will do more than fill the role of Fisher, Major upgrade, deadly PG.
Biedrins average 11pts 11reb just 2 seasons ago, He has an high defensive motor and will bring it for coach Mike Brown.
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Post#1275 » by Slava » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:05 pm

Keyword: 2 seasons ago.

Eddy Curry was averaging 20 PPG not so long ago.
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Post#1276 » by Gek » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:26 pm

Lakers Trade: Ron Artest, Steve Blake, Derrick Caracter, 2nd Rounders
Lakers Receive: Raymond Felton, Chris Anderson, #22 Pick

Denver Trades: Raymond Felton, Chris Anderson, #22 Pick
Denver Receive: Ron Artest, Steve Blake, Derrick Caracter, 2nd Rounders



Lakers Trade: Gasol, #22
Minnesota Trade: Beasley, Darko, Flynn, #2, TPE


Lakers:

Felton | Flynn | Fisher
Bryant | Brown
Odom | Barnes
Beasley | Derrick Williams | Anderson
Bynum | Darko | Anderson

Try to snare Crawford, Butler, Battier, Landry, Hill, Richardson and/or Dalembert with MLE/LLE/TPE
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#1277 » by urinesane » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:44 pm

Penberthy wrote:2008: mayo, chalmers (great trades btw)
2009: rubio, flynn, lawson, ellington, calathes

not to mention how many guards did they already have on their squad at that point?


The discussion was about Kahn and drafting point guards, Kahn's first draft was in 2009. Oh and you really put Mayo as a bad trade? The guy they traded him for is an all-star.

They didn't have any PGs that would be here in the future, Ellington is a 2, so it doesn't really help your PG argument. They drafted 2 PGs for their team, they drafted 1 PG for another team, and they drafted a PG that would never be on the team in the 2nd round to use as an asset.

Repeating what I already posted, but without context isn't a valid argument. You can return to your Kobe ballwashing now.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#1278 » by Mr_President » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:44 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Keyword: 2 seasons ago.

Eddy Curry was averaging 20 PPG not so long ago.


You comparing a young, agile, effort guy like Andris Biedrins to a Fat Slob who thinks his Sh*t smells like flowers.

C'mon.

Read the article.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... s.warriors
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Post#1279 » by Jajwanda » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:47 pm

How about Minnesota's 20? They have so much youth on that team, it'd be a waste to draft another guy with no fit.

3m+2nd+2nd for that pick?
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Post#1280 » by Slava » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:49 pm

Young agile effort guys would mean someone like Noah, Chandler, DeAndre Jordan. Biedrins doesn't fall into that category.
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