Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39)

[Eoghan]

I really don't get the love for Leonard...why is this guy so valued?? He's not a good shooter; his measurables at the combine were not impressive; and while I do not place smaller schools at an automatic disadvantage, what did he achieve with San Diego State to place him in mid-lottery range?

I do NOT want another bricklayer drafted at 9. I love defense, but if we keep fielding a team that chucks it on O, I'm gonna blow.

Singleton is not my favorite, but he does have an improving offensive game to go with his great D, so he wouldn't upset me. I'd like to trade back to get an extra pick or trade up to get Kanter (or Wiliams if Minny is frisky enough to do that without giving up our 19th pick). Still love Brooks and Vucevic and hope they are wearing our colors Friday.

I was with you...until you started talking about Singleton. All your complaints about Leonard are fair. However to say that about Leonard and then go to Singleton and harp on his "improving' offensive game and great D is a bit unfair. Lets not forget that Leonard has the better offensive game hands down and still has a lot of room to improve. Lets also not forget that Leonard is arguably the better defender of the two. If your going to not like Leonard because of a limited (so to speak) offensive game and because he is a defense first player, then don't double back and say you would be okay with Singleton. Now if you want to talk specifically about shooting, then yes SIngleton has the advantage. However Singleton's 3 point shots all come from the corner while Leonard has more of an ability to hit from anywhere. Anyway, I guess long story short is that Leonard is rightly so rated higher of the two. And really if you don't like one because of defense then you shouldn't like the other either. Both are defense first forwards. I do agree with you though that I would like to see offense at this pick over defense, but if Leonard is sitting there at 9 he holds too much value to be overly upset at picking him.

Singleton's offense > Kwahi's IMHO. I also think Singleton can play/defend multiple positions better and has a higher Bball IQ.

I'm somewhat intrigued by Tobias Harris, I've heard of him compared to Glen Rice so that definitely made my ears perk up. He'd be a nice consolation SF if Singleton, Leonard, Hamilton, Klay, Marcus Morris, etc are all off the board by #19. Still young with lots of upside.

[Bassman]

Didn't mean to imply that I was loving Singleton at 9 either...just don't get why Leonard is ranked so highly.

Unless one of the magic gems falls to us at 9 I'm for drafting Klay Thompson there. I think this guy will prove to be a better player than most in this draft class, and his defense will improve (although never a lock-down guy). But Klay can flat out shoot the basketball. You get him on the court with a legit post threat and a slasher, and you've got some O. Klay will put in plenty of minutes at the 2 (paired with Jax) or the 3 (matched with Hendo) and compliments both of them well. I don't think he would be available in a trade down beyond the 12th pick.

At 19 I want Vucevic if he's available (I suspect he's gone before that). The big V will eventually become our starter...no all-star but a true post-up option and rebounder at the 5. Assuming no trades:

STARTERS: DJ, Hendo, Jax, Tyrus, Vucevic
6TH MAN (and future starting 3): Klay Thompson
KEY RESERVES: White, Kwame, Livingston,
Contributors till traded or expired: Diaw, Najera, Carroll

[Badd_Intentions]

Tobias to Glen Rice?? I don't think I see it. Glen was much much more of a shooter. Tobias is more of an inside out guy from what i've seen. Can score on the block and from mid-range. He is kind of a tweener. He has the body of a SF but his game is that of a PF from what little i've seen of him at Tenn. I also question if he has the foot speed to keep up with SF's in the NBA or the power to defend PFs. He can score though. He doesn't excite you, but he just gets it done on offense. If he can figure out positioning and how to play on the defensive end he'll be one of those guys that sticks around the league for 13-15 years and has a pretty nice career as a 4th/5th option on a team.

[BigSlam]

DX's latest Yahoo extended mock:

#9 = Kawhi
#19 = Burks!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... cn-8674693

Also, notice what Jon G adds at the bottom of pick #19?

That is, if the team will be drafting here at all. This pick is reportedly available.

[hotrod]

As for the Bobcats, one Eastern Conference executive said: “The whole team is available."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... aft_062011

[bobcats3wallace]

As for the Bobcats, one Eastern Conference executive said: “The whole team is available."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... aft_062011

Well that would suggest the fact that we are open to anything to try and rebuild this team. It's not like anyone on this team is irreplaceable. I was surprised to see the team was more hesitant to trade DJ than Hendo...if there was one guy I would rather keep it would be Hendo because of his defense and how he looked to be developing.

What do the Bocats think they are going to get for 19 I wonder? If the draft fell that way I would be alright walking away with Kawhi and Burks. I would still rather hope that Vucevic falls to 19 and we can take him though.

[dmutombo321]

As for the Bobcats, one Eastern Conference executive said: “The whole team is available."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... aft_062011

Thanks for the link hotrod.

A couple other tidbits that stand out:

-"Houston continues to offer the 14th and 23rd picks in the draft to move into the top 10, and could have a willing partner with the Detroit Pistons at No. 8."

If true, I cant see why Houston wouldnt be receptive to Charlotte at 9 also.

-"Providence guard Marshon Brooks is getting a close examination by the New York Knicks at No. 17. His scoring ability continues to impress executives."

I view 15 as a likely destination for him provided Indy keeps their pick and Jimmer is gone. If not, 17 to NY, is probably his floor unless some other big name unexpectedly drops.

-"Perhaps no player is rising faster than Georgia Tech’s Iman Shumpert, who is suddenly on the Phoenix Suns’ short list at No. 13. "

If we would acquire the 14th, the ascention of players like Shumpert, Biymbo and possibly Jimmer could drop some of the prospects we like at 9 to us

[BigSlam]

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/30162715

• The Bobcats are said to be all over Chris Singleton with the ninth pick, but would take Marcus Morris if they’re stuck. Nicola Vucevic would be Charlotte’s choice with the 19th pick if he’s still there.

Why do I get the feeling this is going to be like Hibbert all over again and Vucevic is going to be taken a pick or two before we are on teh clock?

[countryboi]

another guy that can defend but couldnt toss the ball in the ocean....not really mad at it but he seems like such a larry brown pick.

[hotrod]

mikecranston1 RT @APgelston: Former #purdue star JaJuan Johnson at #76ers today. Says he has 1 more workout with bobcats.
7 minutes ago

[countryboi]

mikecranston1 Mike Cranston
Hearing tomorrow is a big day of workouts for #Bobcats. Callbacks could include Chris Singleton, Marcus Morris, others.

[bobcats3wallace]

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/30162715

• The Bobcats are said to be all over Chris Singleton with the ninth pick, but would take Marcus Morris if they’re stuck. Nicola Vucevic would be Charlotte’s choice with the 19th pick if he’s still there.

Why do I get the feeling this is going to be like Hibbert all over again and Vucevic is going to be taken a pick or two before we are on teh clock?

I would be fine with Singleton and Vucevic. I'm glad to see they seem to have a lot of interest in Vucevic but hearing that they would take Morris at 9 makes me puke. Still though, I don't expect us to end up with just the 9th or 19th picks. Whether we trade both to move up, or trade on for a player, or trade one to cut salary, something will happen and we will either end up with different picks, more picks, or less picks.

[ohara]

Chad Ford Mock V.6 out today.
#9: Twin 1
#19: Vucevic
#39 Charles Jenkins

[BIG SIX5]

The 'Cats FO knows we need shooters and bigs, I just dont see how Singleton would help us in either of those catagories. With that said I WILL BE FULLY PREPARED ( & HOUSED just enough) to pre-order my Chris Singleton #31 Charlotte Bobcats jersey just after the 9th pick is announced & Chris puts on our draft hat & Jay Bilas is done talking about his wingspan! Im really hoping that Cho can prove to ME & EVERYBODY else that he is not Mj's yes man & has brought in some different perspective.
Reports have surfaced that Big Jonas will not be playing in the Association at all this year b/c of buyout in his current contract & now he sliding down draft boards everywhere. Seeing how we're not kissing trophies anytime soon, AM I THE ONLY ONE who now hopes he slips to the 9th pick and we keep him stashed in Lithuania? He wont count against our cap & he can polish his game for one more year while we rebuild, which is defineitlly starting right now!!!!
I totally agree w/ bobcats3wallace, that there will be tons of movement in this draft & that the Bobcats will be involved! Thursday is going to be one exciting night, b/c outside of the top 2 pick.... NOBODY KNOWS WHOS GOING WHERE!!!!!!!

[BIG SIX5]

I'm cool w/ Marcus Morris at 9.... if he is the pick then the FO must feel he can play the 3spot, all the scouts said he's got the range from the arc plus if Diaw is moved he can see minutes at the 4spot. I want Big V at 19 soooooooo bad! Almost so bad that i wouldnt care who we take at 9 as long as we dont pass on V if he's available......... ALMOST!

[fatlever]

im on board with jonas at 9. but i seriously, seriously, dont see us taking a euro at 9.

[ohara]

Chad Ford Mock V.6 out today.
#9: Twin 1
#19: Vucevic
#39 Charles Jenkins

If it comes out this way, I would really love to see Diaw moved for another pick. If we could somehow get Jordan Hamilton also, that would be 4 positions filled nicely.

[bobcats3wallace]

I'm cool w/ Marcus Morris at 9.... if he is the pick then the FO must feel he can play the 3spot, all the scouts said he's got the range from the arc plus if Diaw is moved he can see minutes at the 4spot. I want Big V at 19 soooooooo bad! Almost so bad i would care who we take at 9 as long as we dont pas on V if he's available......... ALMOST!

Have you forgotten about Tyrus, DJW and Najera? Not to mention the fact that nearly every scout would agree that Morris is NOT a SF...I believe even the Bobcats said that much. We have the 9th overall pick and you have a chance to fill an actual need on this team yet you take a guy that plays the ONE position we are fine at. Would make NO sense.

[misterglover]

for #9 I want one of Klay Thompson or Jan Vesely..... I want absolutely no part of either Morris twin or Kawhi Leonard

[bobcats3wallace]

Chad Ford Mock V.6 out today.
#9: Twin 1
#19: Vucevic
#39 Charles Jenkins

Give me Singleton at 9 and I would be happy with that draft. If we could somehow snag Charles Jenkins at 39 that would seal the deal for me. He would be a GREAT combo scorer off the bench and would bring the 3 point shooting we need. If it's Twin1 at 9 then that is a bad draft, IMO. I still love Vucevic and Charles Jenkins but I think both those guys would be better picks (and potentially better players) than Twin 1. Just would make absolutely NO sense.