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Re: Iggy to be Clipper thursday? 

Post#21 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:47 pm

Det the Threat wrote:Who's that source?

And does he/she have any creadibility?

I mean, I could also just tweet about Iggy becoming a Clipper etc.


You should do it! I will then start a new thread about it at the Sixers board-
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Re: Iggy to be Clipper thursday? 

Post#22 » by illastrate » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:50 pm

Foshan wrote:As a philly fan I've more or less resigned that we'll move Iggy, though I'm going to LOL when we suck hard next year and all the fans are like WTF why's our D so bad? And when ball movement stops and people stop getting easy points off of Dre's good passes... oh-well.

Deal I'd like to see happen:

Iggy + Speights + Noc ----> Kaman + Aminu + Gomes + Min 1st

With Min looking to add vets, new coach, Rubio & #2 the value of that pick decreases most likely to a later lotto (just my opinion). Philly helps shave a year off of Gomes deal, which would be helpful for the clips in resigning some guys, Speights is a very offensively skilled PF/C tweener. Could play spot minutes next to Blake or DJ.

I see Philly being much more interested in the 1st than Aminu, simply because we have Thad, and are talking about drafting Hamilton, who looks like he'd be a better fit then Aminu.


The Minny 1st is definitely the dealbreaker. I think Kaman/Aminu or Kaman/Warren/#37/#47 could happen.
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Re: Will our Prince come as well? 

Post#23 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:53 pm

Ranma wrote:I wouldn't mind giving up Aminu at all if we could also be assured of signing Tayshaun Prince to a reasonable deal once the lockout ends, but would Prince be more or less inclined to sign with the Clippers if Iguodala is now the starting SF on the roster? Plus, with the Minny pick in 2012, the Clips have a shot at some talented prospects such as Anthony Davis, Harrison Barnes, and Michael Gilchrist at the wings or Myck Kabongo at the point if Bledsoe doesn't make a lot of progress in developing his PG instincts.


We might get a toss-in to even it up a little, but nothing significant IMO. The Clips will basically accept a Iggy for Kaman/Aminu deal because the writing is definitely on the wall for Kaman. I like him individually as a player (heck he's a competent NBA center!), but don't like his fit on our team. But DJ still had a long way to go, finally he appears ready to be a starter.

Tayshaun Prince will never be a Clipper, he has been discussed way too many times now so it will never happen. ;) The only player that has been discussed more is Mike Miller. I think with Iggy we are getting a younger, more explosive Tayshaun anyway. :clap:
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No deal on "moving day"? 

Post#24 » by Ranma » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:52 am

Lisa Dillman, LA Times via Bellingham Herald (6/22/11)
What makes Kaman such a valuable trade commodity is his expiring contract, one year remaining at $12.2 million. Working against the 29-year-old is the fact he was limited to 32 games last season because of a lingering high-ankle sprain and played in 139 games over the last three seasons.

Apparently, this was enough for the 76ers not to pursue a deal or even present a counteroffer to an early-May proposal of Kaman and Clippers small forward Ryan Gomes in exchange for small forward Andre Iguodala and power forward Marreese Speights.

Rod Thorn, 76ers president, told reporters in Philadelphia that there has been dialogue about Iguodala, not specifying any teams, adding that no trade was "imminent."

Internally, the Clippers have set Thursday as an unofficial trade deadline, moving day, if you will. Most NBA teams are approaching it that way because in the off-season a player has seven days to report after a trade. With a potential NBA lockout looming July 1, teams would want to have the physicals and other evaluations completed by June 30.

Clippers seem more focused on Kaman's future than on draft


I love the proposal mentioned in Dillman's article but it sounds like an Iggy deal with Philadelphia is dead when you consider that David Kahn countered the Lakers' offer of Lamar Odom for the #2 overall pick with Pau Gasol and then Andrew Bynum and the Sixers have yet to respond to Olshey's proposal. Is Philly still considering our offer while shopping for better deals or has it discounted the Clippers as a viable option? Is it gamesmanship on the part of Rod Thorn trying to panic Neil Olshey into upgrading his offer? We'll see how it plays out tomorrow.
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Re: Iggy to be Clipper thursday? 

Post#25 » by mkwest » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:13 am

A league source in New York today believes there's less than a five percent chance Andre Iguodala is traded by Thursday night.

Numerous sources around the league have told me the Iguodala rumors are only rumors and there's not much validity to them.

Ryan Feldman, The Hoops Report
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Re: No deal on "moving day"? 

Post#26 » by mkwest » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:31 am

Ranma wrote:I love the proposal mentioned in Dillman's article but it sounds like an Iggy deal with Philadelphia is dead when you consider that David Kahn countered the Lakers' offer of Lamar Odom for the #2 overall pick with Pau Gasol and then Andrew Bynum and the Sixers have yet to respond to Olshey's proposal. Is Philly still considering our offer while shopping for better deals or has it discounted the Clippers as a viable option? Is it gamesmanship on the part of Rod Thorn trying to panic Neil Olshey into upgrading his offer? We'll see how it plays out tomorrow.


It's so many rumors flying around right now. I personally feel that they're just trying to get someone to up the ante. Every writer from out side of things doesn't expect anything to happen between us and the 76ers. Most other trades that we have made have come out thin air. If something happens, I'm expecting it to be out of the blue. I want to see improvements made, but I don't want us overpaying either. I'd be willing to offer more than Gomes in addition to Kaman, but I don't know exactly where Neil has drawn the line.
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There's always next time 

Post#27 » by Ranma » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:46 am

mkwest wrote:It's so many rumors flying around right now. I personally feel that they're just trying to get someone to up the ante. Every writer from out side of things doesn't expect anything to happen between us and the 76ers. Most other trades that we have made have come out thin air. If something happens, I'm expecting it to be out of the blue. I want to see improvements made, but I don't want us overpaying either. I'd be willing to offer more than Gomes in addition to Kaman, but I don't know exactly where Neil has drawn the line.


I agree with you entirely. Obviously, the Sixers haven't found an offer that compels them to pull the trigger yet but I was hoping that anticipation of a new more restrictive CBA would further add to the pressure of unloading Iguodala's salary. In any case, I join you in not wanting to overpay for Iggy.

They'll have to move him eventually and even if he ends up going elsewhere, we still have the entire off-season and lockout to find an alternative whether that's Tayshaun Prince or whomever.
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Re: Iggy to be Clipper thursday? 

Post#28 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:48 am

Seems like the Iggy-Kaman deal isn't happening tomorrow. Maybe the team is waiting to see what the new salary cap is like. I think most teams won't make any big trades because of the future changes to the salary cap.
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Re: Iggy to be Clipper thursday? 

Post#29 » by mkwest » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:06 pm

Draft Buzz: Where go Iguodala, Felton?

Executives disagree on how much trade activity will surround the NBA draft Thursday night, ranging in their opinions from virtually no veterans traded to a frenzy. One scenario that rival execs believe still has validity is Andre Iguodala to the Clippers.

The Sixers already have turned down the Clippers' offer of Chris Kaman and Ryan Gomes for Iguodala and Marreese Speights, and a person with knowledge of Philadelphia's stragegy said the Sixers are "not taking Kaman." It's not clear how willing the Clippers would be to give up a young asset for Iguodala. The better way to put it is, how much of an asset would it take to entice the Sixers to take Kaman, who only has one year and $12.2 million left on his contract. Iguodala is famously owed $44 million over the next three years.

Given that pricetag, it's no surprise that the Clippers have not yet offered their most valuable asset this side of Blake Griffin -- Minnesota's unprotected No. 1 pick in the 2012 draft. And almost certainly won't.

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Re: Iggy to be Clipper thursday? 

Post#30 » by J-Kidd32 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:28 pm

CLIPS WON'T CHASE IGGY: The soon-to-be-finalized sale of the Sixers may submarine any Andre Iguodala deal, at least for now, but that doesn't mean the Clippers and Sixers have thrown in the towel quite yet, according to Ken Berger of CBSSports. It has been publicly known for a couple of weeks now that the Sixers rejected a deal that would have sent Chris Kaman (whose contract expires after next season) and Ryan Gomes to Philly in exchange for Iguodala and Marreese Speights. Kaman is a nice player, but that amounts to little more than a salary dump for Philly, and the Sixers believe they might be able to get more for one of the league's truly great defensive players. Berger says the Clips may not be willing to go much further, at least for now, in chasing Iguodala as their long-awaited answer at small forward. They have some intriguing young assets -- Eric Bledsoe and Al-Farouq Aminu -- and the Timberwolves' unprotected 2012 first-round pick.
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C'est La Vie 

Post#31 » by Ranma » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:50 pm

I'm disappointed but not devastated. Tayshaun Prince, here we come.
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Re: Iggy to be Clipper thursday? 

Post#32 » by Det the Threat » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:49 pm

Eric Pincus- 06/23/2011 3:26pm EST-
Expect the Los Angeles Clippers to continue their search for a small forward beyond the June 30th deadline. While Andre Iguodala is one of the many players they covet, presently there's nothing brewing on the trade front.

The Sixers are looking at a number of possibilities, including holding pat for now. Chris Kaman, as the primary piece, won't be enough to push a deal through today.

It's not a matter of whether or not the Clippers will include forward Al-Farouq Aminu but the core player LA would be including in Kaman.

Chris was limited their past year with injury and while the Sixers need size, they're just not ready to make that move.

Will that change over time? Perhaps but we're looking at post-lockout with a new Collective Bargaining Agreement and a new set of rules.


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