Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39)

YamiRain · Post #961 » by **YamiRain** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:52 pm

We need Klay Thompson

BIG SIX5 · Post #962 » by **BIG SIX5** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:36 pm

Trailblazers3Wallace, i never said thats who i wanted the Cats to select, but your argument doesnt really hold water to me either....... other than Najera's hustle and heart, DJW & Eddie bring NAN to the hardwood. If Marcus Morris was the pick he totally jumps them on the depth chart!....... So let me get this staright, You want a guy to fill a hole w/ the 9th pick (Singleton) but he cant create his own shot, and the offense cant be ran thru him either b/c he's sketch w/ the rock passing & dribbling. I will give him his stingy defense & he will help on the boards but how does that help us right now? I know D wins championships but we gotta win games first Bro! Are you a Larry Brown guy........ Dj over Brook Lopez? Did u sign co-sign for that? I dont care who we take as long as that individual has a scorers mentality AND CAN SCORE like a Burks or Brooks. At least we're on the same page about the big guy at 19

Post #963 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:39 pm

Spending some time catching up on the prospects today. Not very excited about the Morris Bros. Klay Thompson and Alec Burks are both appealing. Think I would prefer Tristian Thompson or Chris Singleton over Marcus Morris.

I think I'd be okay with Vucevic at 19, not as much Reggie Jackson. Faried seems like a safe role playing big, so that's okay by me if we don't get a big in the lotto.

I imagine we'll go with whoever is available that's safest, though.

Eoghan · Post #964 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:37 pm

Hmm, I'm watching some game footage right now of Klay and I'm telling you right now there's no way he's playing SF at the NBA level. His game reminds me a lot of Kyle Korver's actually, except he's a bit smaller. Finishes at the basket better though. He can flat out shoot though, deep range, can shoot off the dribble. You can tell he's used to double teams b/c he can draw defenders and find the open man.

I don't think he's really worth #9, he'd be a need-based pick rather than a BPA pick.

Also saw some Tobias Harris. Interesting kid. I think he'll struggle at the NBA level b/c he's too short to play PF but too slow to play SF. Savvy player though, has an old school game. I don't know why but he reminded me of Josh Smith except without the hops, so in other words he doesn't excite me much. I'm not even sure he's worth #19 frankly. Supposedly he's dropped some weight so maybe he's quicker but I think he's locked to go late 1st round.

countryboi · Post #965 » by **countryboi** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:59 pm

mikecranston1 Mike Cranston
This was just a formality, but agent for #Bobcats F Boris Diaw says he has officially picked up player option for next season.

billvoth Bill Voth
#Bobcats final predraft workout tomorrow will feature call-back guys JaJuan Johnson, Chris Singleton and Marcus Morris.

mikecranston1 Mike Cranston
#Bobcats will get at look at Congo's Bismack Biyombo at tomorrow's final pre-draft workout.

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Interested to see Bismack Biyombo and JuJuan Johnson go against @RealTristan13 @KansasTwin22 @C_SING31 and Jordan Hamilton Wed #NBA #Bobcats

Post #966 » by **fatlever** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:15 pm

so tomorrow we have:
marcus morris
tristan thompson
chris singleton
jordan hamilton
jujuan johnson
bismack biyombo

is that right?

wow.

does that pretty much insinuate that we are not interested in a sg at 9?

countryboi · Post #967 » by **countryboi** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:21 pm

yea thats pretty much the line up but some of those guys are coming on wednesday they will not all be in at the same time.....someone needs to flaten marcus morris's tires on the way to the arena cause i do not want

bobcats3wallace · Post #968 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:24 pm

fatlever wrote:so tomorrow we have:
marcus morris
tristan thompson
chris singleton
jordan hamilton
jujuan johnson
bismack biyombo

is that right?

wow.

does that pretty much insinuate that we are not interested in a sg at 9?

Some have suggested Jordan Hamilton may be more of a SG than SF...but that is yet to be seen. I would be very interested to see how Jujuan Johnson does against Bismack Biyombo. Chris Singleton against Jordan Hamilton would also be interesting.

ohara · Post #969 » by **ohara** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:25 pm

countryboi wrote:yea thats pretty much the line up but some of those guys are coming on wednesday they will not all be in at the same time.....someone needs to flaten marcus morris's tires on the way to the arena cause i do not want

Or Biyombo can flatten him during the workout! Biyombo Buma Ye'! Biyombo Buma Ye'!

ohara · Post #970 » by **ohara** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:01 pm

Diaw picked up his Player Option today. Surprising as I did not think he would before the Draft for fear he gets sent someone he does not like. My hunch is that the team is entertaining an offer and they told him and his agent and they like the destination. Dont really think it makes sense for him to Opt In before the Draft otherwise.

ammofan · Post #971 » by **ammofan** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:02 pm

I like all the guys were bringing in. Singleton, Morris, Smack, Ham all would be decent/good at 9. Im just hoping we get lucky and dont take any of them because Kawhi drops to 9!

bobcats3wallace · Post #972 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:13 pm

ohara wrote:Diaw picked up his Player Option today. Surprising as I did not think he would before the Draft for fear he gets sent someone he does not like. My hunch is that the team is entertaining an offer and they told him and his agent and they like the destination. Dont really think it makes sense for him to Opt In before the Draft otherwise.

9 million dollars does wonders. I didn't think it was ever a question of him opting in. There is no way he could get anything close to 9 million in free agency so of course he is going to take that 9 million for one more year and then after take that smaller deal. I'm also not sure Diaw is the type of player to really give a crap about where he is...I mean have you watched the guy? haha he has not a single care in the world. I'm not going to read into it that much...i think this was a long time coming.

Badd_Intentions · Post #973 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:16 pm

Walt Cronkite wrote:Spending some time catching up on the prospects today. Not very excited about the Morris Bros. Klay Thompson and Alec Burks are both appealing. Think I would prefer Tristian Thompson or Chris Singleton over Marcus Morris.

I think I'd be okay with Vucevic at 19, not as much Reggie Jackson. Faried seems like a safe role playing big, so that's okay by me if we don't get a big in the lotto.

I imagine we'll go with whoever is available that's safest, though.

I think Klay might have a harder time than most adjusting to the physicality of the NBA game. He's a dead eye shooter though. I think 9 is a bit too high for him.

I'm starting to settle on Jordan Hamilton, but I don't think he'll be there at 19. Is 9 too high for him? The only thing about him is i'm not sure if he has the motor that other guys do and the desire to max his potential.

I like Tristan, but he seems like Tyrus without a jumper.

I think the twins will be solid in there own right. But neither appeal to me at 19, let alone 9.

At 19 I like Brooks, Hamilton, and Vucevic. I have a feeling someone will fall to us at 9, be it Kemba or Vesely. With our 2nd rounder I wouldn't mind a guy like Nolan Smith or Norris Cole, but they'll be long gone.

Bassman · Post #974 » by **Bassman** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:40 pm

Observation from Hoopsworld article by Tommy Beer:

There are essentially eight players that effectively separated themselves from the pack at this point: Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Brandon Knight, Kawhi Leonard, Jonas Valanciunas, Jan Vesely, and Kemba Walker. Not matter which mock draft you consult, most everyone agrees each of these youngsters will be off the board within the first 10 picks. After that, it's more or less a crapshoot.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?sto ... z1PwXeOosm

I don't know if htis is his opinion or an informed pronouncement via NBA scouts, but it passes the smell test. If our front office agrees, do you take any one of those players if they fall to 9?

I'm trying to channel my inner Cho....Hhhmmmmm.... :meditate:

Would he dare to make a trade? I think Cho will try...

Most likely option: The trade with Houston (9 for 14 & 23) to aquire an extra pick. This happens if none of our upper targets are on the board at 9, and Houston needs to jump over Utah and Milwaukee. We can take the best player left among those we like anyway (probably Singleton but I'd prefer Vucevic to beat Philly to him), and still grab a SG and SF.

Possible option: Trade the 9 and Tyrus to the Cavs for the 4th pick and draft Kanter (assuming Utah doesn't snatch him at 3rd). I think the Cav's prefer Valanciunas to Kanter, and might wait a year for him, but if they think other teams will pass on him till 9, they might prefer a deal that gets them an extra impact player AND Jonas.

Least likely option: Trade up to #2, dealing the 9 and Jax to Minny, and drafting Williams. Would love to do this and use Diaw, but that's not happening :lol:

. I'd also swap Tyrus or Hendo and 9 to grab Williams.

Kembastockton · Post #975 » by **Kembastockton** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:00 pm

One thing that I am certain of is that Charlotte will be making some type of trade Thursday night. Most likely envolving Diaw's expiring contract. This would explain our interest in Twin 1.

doc.end · Post #976 » by **doc.end** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:02 pm

This draft is certainly crazy. I kind of wish I could fast forward two days of my life. The worst thing is we don't have a clue what our front office is up to.

The last woorkout - good news I guess. But I can't tell interest from smokescreen anymore. I expect a lot of trades once Utah is on the clock.

Eoghan · Post #977 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:09 pm

I'm pretty sure Tristan Thompson will be a bust. There's an unwritten rule that the NBA can only have one good Canadian player so best case scenario Thompson will have a chance when Steve Nash retires.

vorbis · Post #978 » by **vorbis** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:56 pm

BrotherDave wrote:I'm pretty sure Tristan Thompson will be a bust. There's an unwritten rule that the NBA can only have one good Canadian player so best case scenario Thompson will have a chance when Steve Nash retires.

i can't help reading your comments in the voice of your avatar, so let me translate it for yuks.

I'm pretty sure Trinity Thompson will be a bust or whatever because he's bein' a ****' dick. Seems like everybody's always telling me that the MBA can only have one good Canadian player so best cast ontario Thompson will get really drunk and smoke a lot of dope and kick ass when Steve Mash retires. **** Leahy.

ohara · Post #979 » by **ohara** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:10 am

bobcats3wallace wrote:
ohara wrote:Diaw picked up his Player Option today. Surprising as I did not think he would before the Draft for fear he gets sent someone he does not like. My hunch is that the team is entertaining an offer and they told him and his agent and they like the destination. Dont really think it makes sense for him to Opt In before the Draft otherwise.

9 million dollars does wonders. I didn't think it was ever a question of him opting in. There is no way he could get anything close to 9 million in free agency so of course he is going to take that 9 million for one more year and then after take that smaller deal. I'm also not sure Diaw is the type of player to really give a crap about where he is...I mean have you watched the guy? haha he has not a single care in the world. I'm not going to read into it that much...i think this was a long time coming.

We knew he would opt for it. Question is why did he before the Draft? We could not have traded him before, but now we can. I think the FO has told he and his agent something which made him Opt in before. Just a hunch, but no other reason for him to do so just a couple days before the Draft.

ohara · Post #980 » by **ohara** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:57 am

Really curious to hear tomorrow how Biyombo does against some of the others we are considering. If he blows up on Defense and shows some reasonable offense around the rim, I can see Cho and company trying to move back a few spots from #9 to try and pick up anothe pick and take him at the end of the lottery. I think the Houston #14 and #23 for #9 would be ideally suited for such a plan. Biyombo would fall to #14, grab him there, and then have #19 and #23. Not saying I would love it, but if they are impressed by him enough, yes, I can see it being done. Especially if he is man handling Tristan, Twin #1 and the like.