Knicks have inquired about Nash.

Gorilla Warfare · Post #1 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:39 pm

Now I know Babby said that we weren't trading Nash. But he is at least calling offices back asking about what they will offer. If you were Babby what would be the trade that sends to Nash to NY?

I would say anything less than Billups/Fields/17th we close the door. We would have to include Childress or Pietrus to do it.

Post #2 » by **rsavaj** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:48 pm

They don't have much to give, and they're not going to give up the farm for Nash when they're waiting for Paul in 2012.

harshey1388 · Post #3 » by **harshey1388** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:59 pm

NO!! No trades with the Knicks. the end.

NiGhtWiSh · Post #4 » by **NiGhtWiSh** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:34 pm

If they have cap space, then just Nash for #17 & Fields & 1st 2012. In every moment of the day&night

NiGhtWiSh · Post #5 » by **NiGhtWiSh** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:07 pm

» Update: 03:58 PM ET
Tommy Dee: just talked to a trusted source with ties to West conference team who said nash to NY is "heating up" #staytuned Twitter

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realsunsfan · Post #6 » by **realsunsfan** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:14 pm

NiGhtWiSh wrote:» Update: 03:58 PM ET
Tommy Dee: just talked to a trusted source with ties to West conference team who said nash to NY is "heating up" #staytuned Twitter

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It's not happening bud............

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mattdes · Post #7 » by **mattdes** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:21 pm

Would you guys trade Nash for Lebron? Don't you think "Nash for #17 & Fields & 1st 2012" is just a tad lopsided in your favor? Nash hasn't really declined, and that's great, but he is 37 and its probably going to start soon..

NiGhtWiSh · Post #8 » by **NiGhtWiSh** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:22 pm

in a situation like this, i don't trust club-spoiled journalists...

will see

STAT & Melo are waiting

Sun Scorched · Post #9 » by **Sun Scorched** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:30 pm

mattdes wrote:Would you guys trade Nash for Lebron? Don't you think "Nash for #17 & Fields & 1st 2012" is just a tad lopsided in your favor? Nash hasn't really declined, and that's great, but he is 37 and its probably going to start soon..

You guys can keep Landry. I'd rather have Douglas.

stv · Post #10 » by **stv** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:34 pm

Billups said he didn't want to leave Denver. Send Nash to NY, Billups back to Denver and a resigned Affalo and Felton to Phx.

NiGhtWiSh · Post #11 » by **NiGhtWiSh** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:37 pm

stv wrote:Billups said he didn't want to leave Denver. Send Nash to NY, Billups back to Denver and a resigned Affalo and Felton to Phx.

nice idea

dukeknicksirish · Post #12 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:26 pm

stv wrote:Billups said he didn't want to leave Denver. Send Nash to NY, Billups back to Denver and a resigned Affalo and Felton to Phx.

love it

BurningHeart · Post #13 » by **BurningHeart** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:02 pm

stv wrote:Billups said he didn't want to leave Denver. Send Nash to NY, Billups back to Denver and a resigned Affalo and Felton to Phx.

I'd be ok with that. But he's not going anywhere. It's a worthless discussion to have.

deliebob · Post #14 » by **deliebob** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:04 pm

So, do we have any "insiders" left here? I remember that Traxxe posted at the trade deadline that Nash had actually requested a trade but wouldn't go public with his request. The supposed plan was to trade both Nash and Lopez at the draft for picks, and to possibly get rid of Childress and/or Warrick in the process.

deliebob · Post #15 » by **deliebob** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:08 pm

By the way, Tommy Dee, who says the Nash to the Knick is heating up, was one of the first to have Amare signing with the Knicks.

Dalerax · Post #16 » by **Dalerax** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:12 pm

stv wrote:Billups said he didn't want to leave Denver. Send Nash to NY, Billups back to Denver and a resigned Affalo and Felton to Phx.

Why does Denver do it though? They really, really want Lawson starting. Billups coming back would interfere with that, and they'd be giving up Afflalo.

harshey1388 · Post #17 » by **harshey1388** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:15 pm

im open to Nash trade ideas just not with the Knicks! i have way too many ties with N.Y and do not want the chatter that is going to come my way by ignorant fans. i hate this superteam model that the Heat opened up.

the only way ill like it is if we get CP3 and Dhoward next season :lol:

boyz2knicks · Post #18 » by **boyz2knicks** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:15 pm

nash may look loyal coz what player is not but I doubt nash is not enticed to play again with dantoni and amare.

Dalerax · Post #19 » by **Dalerax** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:19 pm

Doesn't matter. Knicks still don't have a damn thing to give up for Nash. Third team would pretty much have to be involved.

jdlewis · Post #20 » by **jdlewis** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:38 pm

Doubt it has legs, but if this did...

I've never been a proponent of rebuilding, but doing what we've always done... KJ, Kidd, Marbury, Nash the Suns have put butts in the seats and good championship possible teams out on the floor first and foremost by having capable star PGs at the helm.

I just don't see much available out there that isn't just a projection. Is that Calderon? I actually am probably one of the few people that likes Andre Miller's game, but he is old. Parker is a legit PG in this league and wouldn't be an embarrassment next to the names above.

I would guess the best solution is Calderon and #5. Calderon is hyper-efficient with the ball and good distributor and shooter, just seems to not be able to stay healthy. Probably can't get anyone all that great at 5 though and if Nash plays to 40, is an extended Nash of 37-40 better than 5 years of Calderon 30-35 (extended for 3)? I don't think so and so the 5 pick would have to make up that difference.

Maybe what you'd have to do is find a way to work a 3 way with Toronto and Philadelphia to have this make sense, to me at least.

Phoenix
Andre Iguadala - SF
Jose Calderon - PG

Toronto
Steve Nash

Philadelphia
Vince Carter
Robin Lopez
#5
(maybe 13 too)

I don't think salaries work right, but

Toronto gives up a 5th pick they may not want that badly and a player they'd have to trade anyway because he is being replaced by Nash.

Philadelphia gets what they want for Iguadala cap relief AND something of value if they took back 5/13/Lopez and that much cap relief, they could hardly complain I think.

Phoenix trades some of their future cap flexibility for two players that you would think would be better than what they could land on the free agent market in 2012. Maybe somewhere in the mix you could unload the lesser of two bad contracts in Warrick as well (that would be some tweaking.)

You still end up with holes where we have them today, but it would at least add a player a lot of fans seem to want to keep excitement up. Don't know if it would be all that wise, but I think better than starting from scratch because at least you are adding players back with clear value themselves... rather than a busted draft pick who could leave the team saddled at the bottom of the league talent-wise.

Suppose I prefer something like this than anything that New York could possibly offer or even blowing the whole thing up and starting from scratch... Minnesota continues to desperately show how important quality vets are to the success of a franchise.