mugzi wrote:ewingxmanstarks wrote:King of Troy wrote:I'm sorry, but you were just being a jerk ewingxmanstarks.
If you cannot be nice, you should not be debating. Doom presented his theory, and one that is not absurd, yet you attacked him personally instead of providing a counter argument.
So what did you prove? You didn't fight his argument at all, you simply told him, basically, that he was dumb and needs to do research. That is paramount to treading water, you haven't done anything to his argument, you've simply taken the focus off his argument to his person.
I'm sure you can find some qualitative papers that support what Doom posted about the media.
People are self interested. Businesses exist to make profit. So why wouldn't a corporation (a business) use its sway to make things that are beneficial to themselves? They lobby government officials all the time to help them. It makes logical sense that they would interfere in the media for their own favor, especially if they think it can help get the politicians who are going to work in their interests to help them. That is a rational action for those companies to make.
Has nothing to do with politics but everything to do with human nature, and that it is natural for people to look for ways to benefit themselves. We do exist in a world of scarcity, after all.
I was a jerk...out of frustration, but a jerk none the less..
I'm not going to comment on what he wrote, which is what I should have done to begin with...We are not going to get anywhere discussing politics...that's the reality.
I am sincere in my apology to him...i don't know him, but he's shown evidence of being a good guy...he was just giving his opinion....I made a mistake.
Dude you have NOTHING to apologize for. Frankly, thats the problem with the GOP today. We can't reconcile or see eye to eye with these people. We need to disagree with them at every turn and never give them an inch because they'll take a mile. They are so deluded in their thinking they have no ability to critically think or have any semblance of honor or morality. They are byproducts of a bankrupt Godless culture brought on by communist subversion over a period of 6 decades. The cold war was not won by us, it was lost as evidenced by the dumbing down of our culture, the entitlement mentality- medicare medicaid Obamacare welfare, social security food stamps subsidies, etc etc etc, the 30 million plus illegal immigrants contributing nothing to our tax rolls, you like Greece? Thats our very near future, and when that happens their will be riots, there will be blood which is what these demoncat nanny state fascists want. They want to be able to declare martial law.
I hope you're ready, because preparation is necessary for what lies ahead. Its always better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
You are definitely a smart man, and I very much appreciate the support.
The problem is some of these people aren't expressing their beliefs, they are just gran standing...They don't have a developed political belief system...I don't want them to subscribe to my beliefs...what they should do is just listen, hear out other beliefs, follow whats going on in the world, learn some history, get to know the different ideologies, develop opinion, identify their personal biases, use critical thinking to process what they hear and read.
I've seen people post comments like "How do we really know Osama really is a terrorist?", "The government just wants to kill us all , so they can keep all the oil.", "The government, Churches, Banks, teachers, corporations, cops, firemen, hospitals, the media, the military, herb williams, etc.....are all doing the devils work, and we"re all bind to the hypnosis."
When I challenge Wat they say, they want to debate....If I bruise their ego, it comes back stronger, if I pull a Wingo and Placate, then their ego also grows....He doesn't care about these people, he just wants support or more Dem votes.....I can't help these people,and I don't get anything out of taking to them either.
I do realise that America is losing a culture war, and it's sad, but things always change...there was a time when men came home from hard honest work,ate dinner with their families,watched the news,had fun and meaningful conversation with their friends and family....Now there is no family, men aren't working, kids embrace gang culture, young women are dyking out with young women so they can be more "sexy",etc....
If i was capable of changing things, then I would, but I don't have all the answers..Wingo might think he's "solving problems", but he's delusional....I have no power, I'm just one voice..
