Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39)

hotrod · Post #1081 » by **hotrod** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:44 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... trade-zone

Ford says Bobcats looking to move up to get Leonard.

bobcats3wallace · Post #1082 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:58 pm

hotrod wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/30611/latest-buzz-picks-nos-8-11-the-trade-zone

Ford says Bobcats looking to move up to get Leonard.

NO NO NO NO NO!!! Please! I don't mind Leonard but do not give up both picks just to move up a few spots to take Leonard! He's not worth that much. MJ stay where you are and if Kemba falls take Kemba...I would much rather that.

Interesting that they mention the Spurs. They are offering George Hill for a lottery pick. Would that be the deal were looking at doing? This is tarting to scare me...

hotrod · Post #1083 » by **hotrod** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:08 am

I think Kemba would be the best option if available. Best value and bpa. Leonard has too much bust potential to me.

bobcats3wallace · Post #1084 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:10 am

The Pistons, Bobcats, Bucks and Warriors are getting flooded with calls from teams looking to move into that range. Among the teams who have made calls? The Rockets (who are offering picks Nos. 14 and 23), the Pacers (offering No. 15 and Brandon Rush), the Knicks (No. 17 and Toney Douglas) and the Spurs (George Hill). ESPN.com

Well there are some interesting deals. Which would you take, if any? I think they are all intriguing except for the Spurs deal of just George Hill. I think I like the Pacers deal best. Take Rush as a back-up to Hendo, then look to hopefully take Vucevic at 15, and hopefully Jordan Hamilton at 19. That would be a pretty good group of young players you could be bringing in. Rush, Vucevic, and Hamilton...plus the 39th.

ohara · Post #1085 » by **ohara** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:18 am

hotrod wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/30611/latest-buzz-picks-nos-8-11-the-trade-zone

Ford says Bobcats looking to move up to get Leonard.

I'll $hit myself if MJ does that. Stupid. Fine if he's there at #9, but dont move up for him! Stupid.

ammofan · Post #1086 » by **ammofan** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:23 am

Quit flipping out guys.....Leonard is gonna be a really good player and I will be behind trading up for him 100%. Plus we need to take chances on guys to build a great team. We cant just take a whole bunch of sure thing guys. Champions take chances on guys who they think can help them win.

bobcats3wallace · Post #1087 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:25 am

ammofan wrote:Quit flipping out guys.....Leonard is gonna be a really good player and I will be behind trading up for him 100%. Plus we need to take chances on guys to build a great team. We cant just take a whole bunch of sure thing guys. Champions take chances on guys who they think can help them win.

Leonard is NOT the guy you take a chance on! There is a different between taking chances and being dumb. Trading 9 and 19 just to move up a couple spots to take a mediocre player is NOT SMART.

Post #1088 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:42 am

bobcats3wallace wrote:
hotrod wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/30611/latest-buzz-picks-nos-8-11-the-trade-zone

Ford says Bobcats looking to move up to get Leonard.

NO NO NO NO NO!!! Please! I don't mind Leonard but do not give up both picks just to move up a few spots to take Leonard! He's not worth that much.

How do you know he's not worth it? Sure does seem to be a HECK of a lot of teams in the top 10 that are reported to be Jonesing for him.

That's got to tell you something.

Post #1089 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:43 am

bobcats3wallace wrote: I think I like the Pacers deal best. Take Rush as a back-up to Hendo,

You are kidding - right?

ohara · Post #1090 » by **ohara** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:46 am

Curious. Would you send Hendo, Carroll, Diop and #9 to Denver for Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and #22 if you had the chance?

ammofan · Post #1091 » by **ammofan** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:47 am

bobcats3wallace wrote:
ammofan wrote:Quit flipping out guys.....Leonard is gonna be a really good player and I will be behind trading up for him 100%. Plus we need to take chances on guys to build a great team. We cant just take a whole bunch of sure thing guys. Champions take chances on guys who they think can help them win.

Leonard is NOT the guy you take a chance on! There is a different between taking chances and being dumb. Trading 9 and 19 just to move up a couple spots to take a mediocre player is NOT SMART.

My point is....who says Leonard is a mediocre player? We have to take chances on guys we believe in or we are going NO WHERE.

I would rather stay at 9 and hope Kawhi drops too, but I like the guy alot so If the team wants to do it, im behind it.

ammofan · Post #1092 » by **ammofan** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:48 am

ohara wrote:Curious. Would you send Hendo, Carroll, Diop and #9 to Denver for Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and #22 if you had the chance?

Yup I probably would to be honest. LOVE hendo but Gallo+Wilson>>>>>>>Hendo+#9 any day. Plus we can dump Diop/Matt? Damn, heck yes.

hotrod · Post #1093 » by **hotrod** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:02 am

BigSlam wrote:
bobcats3wallace wrote:
hotrod wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/30611/latest-buzz-picks-nos-8-11-the-trade-zone

Ford says Bobcats looking to move up to get Leonard.

NO NO NO NO NO!!! Please! I don't mind Leonard but do not give up both picks just to move up a few spots to take Leonard! He's not worth that much.

How do you know he's not worth it? Sure does seem to be a HECK of a lot of teams in the top 10 that are reported to be Jonesing for him.

That's got to tell you something.

Those teams already have shooters and scorers though, we don't. This guy is a rebounder/defender. Not saying he won't develop an offensive game, he probably will. We have enough guys that can't shoot though.

bobcats3wallace · Post #1094 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:04 am

BigSlam wrote:
bobcats3wallace wrote: I think I like the Pacers deal best. Take Rush as a back-up to Hendo,

You are kidding - right?

No. Rush is a 3 point shooter who could be a good compliment to Henderson off the bench. Plus you could still get 2 solid players.

I'm sorry, but you must be on something if you think that Leonard is worth the 9 and 19 picks considering how deep this draft is. In fact I wouldn't be surprised in the least if 5 years from now Jordan Hamilton is the better player, or for that matter Chris SIngleton too.

doc.end · Post #1095 » by **doc.end** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:10 am

All those rumours about reaches are crazier and crazier. By this rate at draft time we should just wait and comfortably pick Irving at No.9.

SWedd523 · Post #1096 » by **SWedd523** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:33 am

What'll happen is we either take Twin 1 with the 9th and he ends up being a 12/4 player. Yawn.

Or we trade the 9 for 14 and 23 and whoever the Rockets take with 9 turns into an unlikely star. Then our 14 and 23 picks are busts. Bobcats are the butts of the NBA world again!

ammofan · Post #1097 » by **ammofan** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:51 am

doc.end wrote:All those rumours about reaches are crazier and crazier. By this rate at draft time we should just wait and comfortably pick Irving at No.9.

Yup pretty much!

MrMorrow · Post #1098 » by **MrMorrow** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:55 am

ohara wrote:Curious. Would you send Hendo, Carroll, Diop and #9 to Denver for Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and #22 if you had the chance?

This would be a good trade for us.

ohara · Post #1099 » by **ohara** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:12 am

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects

Top 100 per Draft Express

vorbis · Post #1100 » by **vorbis** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:17 am

Tobias Harris @ 9 in that top 100. Why isn't his "potential" getting more buzz than it is?