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1. Irving
2. Williams
3. Knight
4. Kanter
5. Walker
6. Jan Vesely
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Bismack Biyombo
9. Jonas Valanciunas
10. Tristan Thompson
11. Klay Thompson
12. Jordan Hamilton
13. Jimmer Fredette
14. Nicola Vucevic
2. Williams
3. Knight
4. Kanter
5. Walker
6. Jan Vesely
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Bismack Biyombo
9. Jonas Valanciunas
10. Tristan Thompson
11. Klay Thompson
12. Jordan Hamilton
13. Jimmer Fredette
14. Nicola Vucevic
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This is straight off of my mock in the draft forum.
#1 - 1 point
#2 - 2 points
#3 - 10 points
#4 - 4 points
#5 - 5 points
#6 - 6 points
#7 - 7 points
#8 - 8 points
#9 - 9 points
#10 - 10 points
#11 - 11 points
#12 - 20 points
First Round
1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving - 1
Someone up top will need a point guard, Irving is looking like the best one in the class of 2011 at this point. He is an explosive athlete and has good shooting mechanics. Amazing ball handler with great end-to-end speed and anticipation.
Why Cleveland? Kyrie is a consensus #1 pick.
NBA Comparison: Mike Conley
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2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams - 2
I've got a bit of a revised opinion on Williams because of the lead up to the draft process and a few additional games I was able to watch. I've warmed up on him quite a bit, but I still don't think that he is super-star material. What I do see, however, is a player that has a wide variety of skills including nice post moves and an effective - albeit unorthodox - jumper. He reminds be very much of what Paul Millsap has morphed into, an athletic do-it-all forward who can rebound and step out to hit the three point shot at a good rate despite how ugly his jumper is.
Why Minnesota? I don't think they keep the pick.
NBA Comparison: Paul Millsap
3. Utah - Brandon Knight
Another player that I have really changed my opinion on throughout workouts and through watching some additional footage. I really love his jumpshot and instincts on the defensive end. Those are two skills that will ensure that he sticks in the league. What I don't like are some of his poor decisions on the court and his sometimes poor ball handling with his right hand. I think he can weed out some of those bad habits, though I still think he will be turnover prone as a point guard.
NBA Comparison: Mike Bibby
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter
The year of the European bigs. Kanter is a very polished interior player with a variety of post moves and a nose for the ball. Not explosive or huge, but athletic enough to get the job done as a "true post." Very limited amount of video with him, so a lot of this is based on "gut first impressions."
Why Cleveland? I think Enes has the most potential out of this entire draft class.
NBA Comparison: Not Al Horford
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5. Toronto - Kemba Walker
A gifted scorer, as a great ability to create separation and get his shot off, very fast and has very good ball handling abilities. A volume shooter and not the best distributer, these are areas that he has to improve in, but I think that he can do it. Great free throw shooter. Warming up to him as a top ten pick, but I think that if he goes top 5 he's going to be a big disappointment.
Why Toronto? No one they really want is left at this point. I had them taking Biyombo, but they have Ed Davis already. Kemba can bring some much needed scoring and could be a decent point guard.
NBA Comparison: Ty Lawson
6. Washington - Jan Vesely - 6
he's more of a small forward than a power forward. He's got great instincts moving without the ball, he is a great athlete and he has the potential to be a very good player. His ability to catch the ball could be a bit of an issue as he appears not to have the softest touch around.
Why Washington? They already have enough guys that can score the ball, they need players who can defend now, and I think Jan should do extremely well as a hybrid 3/4 in an uptempo system.
NBA Comparison: Andrei Kirilenko
7. Sacramento - Kawhi Leonard
Good rebounder and he has a knack for getting steals. Really hustles when he is on the court, great athlete. Reminds me a bit of Dante Cunningham. Will fit into an uptempo team because of his ball handling abilities. Not really a scorer and his jump shot is god-awful.
Why Sacramento? 1. Rumors 2. They need a good small forward 3. They are short on defenders.
NBA Comparison: Early career Gerald Wallace
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo
Cool name. Respectable stats in the ACB. I think everyone heard about the triple double in the Hoops Summit, that exposure should really boost his draft stock. He has better court awareness that what I expected, he gets his body on a man when he boxes out, he sets good screens - but he also seems to get lost on offense (he's a great athlete, though). I have seen a very limited amount of this kid.
Why Detroit? I think he is a good fit with Monroe.
NBA Comparison: Clueless
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9. Charlotte - Jonas Valanciunas
Big and young. Scouts will drool over his potential. He looks like a decent player to me, but he needs to bulk up (about 15 pounds) to really be effective in the NBA. He's not a plodder like some centers, but he also isn't extremely athletic or mobile like Tyson Chandler, etc.
Why Charlotte? All the best players left have huge question marks, so draft for size and potential.
NBA Comparison: Sort of reminds me of Marc Gasol.....through very limited amounts of video I have been able to see from him.
10. Milwaukee - Alec Burks
Jump shot looks better than shooting percentage implies. Goes after rebounds hard, good at recognizing where the ball will go. Great passer and ball handler – his teammates are so inept that his assist numbers are lower than what they should be…seems to be an above average defender despite what is being said.
Why the Bucks? Burks brings the scoring punch they lack, and if Salmons plays well could fit well next to him.
NBA Comparison: Again, clueless. I know what he does well but still haven't fingered a player I really think is similar.
11. Golden State - Klay Thompson - 11
About the only decent wing left at this point in the draft. Really great shooter and scorer but lacks athleticism and has been a liability on defense throughout his college career. In the NBA these strengths will be punctuated. I firmly believe that Klay is the best shooting guard in the draft.
Why Golden State? I think Leonard makes the most sense, but he's not going to be there when the Warriors draft.
NBA Comparison: Kevin Martin
12. Utah - Donatus Motiejunas
Has great length and height. Needs to pack some muscle on his frame to become a true threat in the post. Will get knocked around his first couple of years in the NBA, but with the right conditioning could become a threat. Has really upped his stock after the 2010 draft, which is something that I didn't expect to happen. He's so incredibly skilled, he's mobile and he can shoot. He doesn't take great care of the ball (has a tendency to let it get poked out), but he looks like a very good offensive player. I also wonder if his defensive struggles aren't overexagerated. He's really skinny, and I think with his build he should play power forward (narrow shoulders a la Dirk) but once he adds enough weight to hold position in the post with his height he should be fairly decent. This, again, is from a limited amount of video.
Why Utah? 1. Size 2. Potential 3. Rumors.
NBA Comparison: The 1,000th Dirk comparison
20 points for me.
#1 - 1 point
#2 - 2 points
#3 - 10 points
#4 - 4 points
#5 - 5 points
#6 - 6 points
#7 - 7 points
#8 - 8 points
#9 - 9 points
#10 - 10 points
#11 - 11 points
#12 - 20 points
First Round
1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving - 1
Someone up top will need a point guard, Irving is looking like the best one in the class of 2011 at this point. He is an explosive athlete and has good shooting mechanics. Amazing ball handler with great end-to-end speed and anticipation.
Why Cleveland? Kyrie is a consensus #1 pick.
NBA Comparison: Mike Conley
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2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams - 2
I've got a bit of a revised opinion on Williams because of the lead up to the draft process and a few additional games I was able to watch. I've warmed up on him quite a bit, but I still don't think that he is super-star material. What I do see, however, is a player that has a wide variety of skills including nice post moves and an effective - albeit unorthodox - jumper. He reminds be very much of what Paul Millsap has morphed into, an athletic do-it-all forward who can rebound and step out to hit the three point shot at a good rate despite how ugly his jumper is.
Why Minnesota? I don't think they keep the pick.
NBA Comparison: Paul Millsap
3. Utah - Brandon Knight
Another player that I have really changed my opinion on throughout workouts and through watching some additional footage. I really love his jumpshot and instincts on the defensive end. Those are two skills that will ensure that he sticks in the league. What I don't like are some of his poor decisions on the court and his sometimes poor ball handling with his right hand. I think he can weed out some of those bad habits, though I still think he will be turnover prone as a point guard.
NBA Comparison: Mike Bibby
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter
The year of the European bigs. Kanter is a very polished interior player with a variety of post moves and a nose for the ball. Not explosive or huge, but athletic enough to get the job done as a "true post." Very limited amount of video with him, so a lot of this is based on "gut first impressions."
Why Cleveland? I think Enes has the most potential out of this entire draft class.
NBA Comparison: Not Al Horford
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5. Toronto - Kemba Walker
A gifted scorer, as a great ability to create separation and get his shot off, very fast and has very good ball handling abilities. A volume shooter and not the best distributer, these are areas that he has to improve in, but I think that he can do it. Great free throw shooter. Warming up to him as a top ten pick, but I think that if he goes top 5 he's going to be a big disappointment.
Why Toronto? No one they really want is left at this point. I had them taking Biyombo, but they have Ed Davis already. Kemba can bring some much needed scoring and could be a decent point guard.
NBA Comparison: Ty Lawson
6. Washington - Jan Vesely - 6
he's more of a small forward than a power forward. He's got great instincts moving without the ball, he is a great athlete and he has the potential to be a very good player. His ability to catch the ball could be a bit of an issue as he appears not to have the softest touch around.
Why Washington? They already have enough guys that can score the ball, they need players who can defend now, and I think Jan should do extremely well as a hybrid 3/4 in an uptempo system.
NBA Comparison: Andrei Kirilenko
7. Sacramento - Kawhi Leonard
Good rebounder and he has a knack for getting steals. Really hustles when he is on the court, great athlete. Reminds me a bit of Dante Cunningham. Will fit into an uptempo team because of his ball handling abilities. Not really a scorer and his jump shot is god-awful.
Why Sacramento? 1. Rumors 2. They need a good small forward 3. They are short on defenders.
NBA Comparison: Early career Gerald Wallace
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo
Cool name. Respectable stats in the ACB. I think everyone heard about the triple double in the Hoops Summit, that exposure should really boost his draft stock. He has better court awareness that what I expected, he gets his body on a man when he boxes out, he sets good screens - but he also seems to get lost on offense (he's a great athlete, though). I have seen a very limited amount of this kid.
Why Detroit? I think he is a good fit with Monroe.
NBA Comparison: Clueless
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9. Charlotte - Jonas Valanciunas
Big and young. Scouts will drool over his potential. He looks like a decent player to me, but he needs to bulk up (about 15 pounds) to really be effective in the NBA. He's not a plodder like some centers, but he also isn't extremely athletic or mobile like Tyson Chandler, etc.
Why Charlotte? All the best players left have huge question marks, so draft for size and potential.
NBA Comparison: Sort of reminds me of Marc Gasol.....through very limited amounts of video I have been able to see from him.
10. Milwaukee - Alec Burks
Jump shot looks better than shooting percentage implies. Goes after rebounds hard, good at recognizing where the ball will go. Great passer and ball handler – his teammates are so inept that his assist numbers are lower than what they should be…seems to be an above average defender despite what is being said.
Why the Bucks? Burks brings the scoring punch they lack, and if Salmons plays well could fit well next to him.
NBA Comparison: Again, clueless. I know what he does well but still haven't fingered a player I really think is similar.
11. Golden State - Klay Thompson - 11
About the only decent wing left at this point in the draft. Really great shooter and scorer but lacks athleticism and has been a liability on defense throughout his college career. In the NBA these strengths will be punctuated. I firmly believe that Klay is the best shooting guard in the draft.
Why Golden State? I think Leonard makes the most sense, but he's not going to be there when the Warriors draft.
NBA Comparison: Kevin Martin
12. Utah - Donatus Motiejunas
Has great length and height. Needs to pack some muscle on his frame to become a true threat in the post. Will get knocked around his first couple of years in the NBA, but with the right conditioning could become a threat. Has really upped his stock after the 2010 draft, which is something that I didn't expect to happen. He's so incredibly skilled, he's mobile and he can shoot. He doesn't take great care of the ball (has a tendency to let it get poked out), but he looks like a very good offensive player. I also wonder if his defensive struggles aren't overexagerated. He's really skinny, and I think with his build he should play power forward (narrow shoulders a la Dirk) but once he adds enough weight to hold position in the post with his height he should be fairly decent. This, again, is from a limited amount of video.
Why Utah? 1. Size 2. Potential 3. Rumors.
NBA Comparison: The 1,000th Dirk comparison
20 points for me.

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Everyone is going to fail hard when its' all said and done because of all the trades that are going to happen....
Jerry Sloan >>>>>>>> Everything else.
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I guess I'd better stop procrastinating and do mine. I'm assuming that it's the pick that matters and not the team.
1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Brandon Knight
4. Enes Kanter
5. Jonas Valanciunas
6. Jan Vesely
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Bismack Biyombo
9. Kemba Walker
10. Marcus Morris
11. Klay Thompson
12. Chris Singleton
34 points for me.
1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Brandon Knight
4. Enes Kanter
5. Jonas Valanciunas
6. Jan Vesely
7. Kawhi Leonard
8. Bismack Biyombo
9. Kemba Walker
10. Marcus Morris
11. Klay Thompson
12. Chris Singleton
34 points for me.

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JDubJazz's Mock Draft v4.0 FINAL (June 20, 2011)
1. Kyrie Irving - Sounds like the Cavs are set on Kyrie
2. Derrick Williams - I have no idea who is going to be making this pick, but I'm nearly certain it won't be the Wolves. TRADE
3. Enes Kanter - The Jazz are going to pass on a project big man for a Devin Harris clone, when they already have the real Devin Harris? I don't think so.
4. Jan Vesely - Cavs really wanted Jonas Valenciunas but aren't willing to wait for him for a year (or more).
5. Brandon Knight - Knight is the best available and the Dinos need a PG.
6. Tristan Thompson - could go number 4 to the Cavs, but I think the Wizards grab him here, having lost out on Kanter.
7. Klay Thompson - TRADE San Antonio moves Parker to Sacto for Klay Thompson.
8. Markieff Morris - word is Detroit fell in love with him at his workout this week.
9. Kemba Walker - Bobcats are thrilled when Kemba slips this far.
10. Kawhi Leonard - I'm not sure he really slips this far, but I think this is his backstop.
11. Bismack Biyombo - Golden States actually drafts a defensive presence.
12. Jimmer Fredette - Jimmer time! After getting a big at 3, the Jazz go get some long distance shooting. Alec Burks or Jonas Valenciunas are also possibilities here.
I have two trades in the top twelve, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were four or more. This draft just keeps getting crazier.
1. Kyrie Irving - Sounds like the Cavs are set on Kyrie
2. Derrick Williams - I have no idea who is going to be making this pick, but I'm nearly certain it won't be the Wolves. TRADE
3. Enes Kanter - The Jazz are going to pass on a project big man for a Devin Harris clone, when they already have the real Devin Harris? I don't think so.
4. Jan Vesely - Cavs really wanted Jonas Valenciunas but aren't willing to wait for him for a year (or more).
5. Brandon Knight - Knight is the best available and the Dinos need a PG.
6. Tristan Thompson - could go number 4 to the Cavs, but I think the Wizards grab him here, having lost out on Kanter.
7. Klay Thompson - TRADE San Antonio moves Parker to Sacto for Klay Thompson.
8. Markieff Morris - word is Detroit fell in love with him at his workout this week.
9. Kemba Walker - Bobcats are thrilled when Kemba slips this far.
10. Kawhi Leonard - I'm not sure he really slips this far, but I think this is his backstop.
11. Bismack Biyombo - Golden States actually drafts a defensive presence.
12. Jimmer Fredette - Jimmer time! After getting a big at 3, the Jazz go get some long distance shooting. Alec Burks or Jonas Valenciunas are also possibilities here.
I have two trades in the top twelve, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were four or more. This draft just keeps getting crazier.
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The quality of some of the mock drafts being posted by fans is unbelievable.
For those in the know, here's a simple draft night strategy that will allow you to be the one who "called it."
Simply post a dozen mock drafts today with different combinations of players at the 3 and 12 spot. Then there is a high probability that you will have at least one mock draft for the 3 and perhaps another one for the 12 that is correct.
No one will remember that you posted a dozen different mock's, so all of next year you can tag your posts as "I called it in 2011"
For those in the know, here's a simple draft night strategy that will allow you to be the one who "called it."
Simply post a dozen mock drafts today with different combinations of players at the 3 and 12 spot. Then there is a high probability that you will have at least one mock draft for the 3 and perhaps another one for the 12 that is correct.
No one will remember that you posted a dozen different mock's, so all of next year you can tag your posts as "I called it in 2011"
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QuantumMacGyver FINAL MOCK-
01-Cavs- Derrick Williams
02-'Sota- Kyrie Irving
03-Jazz- Enes Kanter
04-Cavs- Brandon Knight
05-Toronto- Kemba Walker
06-Wizards- Kawhi Leonard
07-Kings- Jimmer Fredette
08-Detroit- Bismack Biyombo
09-Bobcats- Jonas Valanciunas
10-Bucks- Alec Burks
11-Warriors- Klay Thompson
12-Jazz- Jan Vesely
01-Cavs- Derrick Williams
02-'Sota- Kyrie Irving
03-Jazz- Enes Kanter
04-Cavs- Brandon Knight
05-Toronto- Kemba Walker
06-Wizards- Kawhi Leonard
07-Kings- Jimmer Fredette
08-Detroit- Bismack Biyombo
09-Bobcats- Jonas Valanciunas
10-Bucks- Alec Burks
11-Warriors- Klay Thompson
12-Jazz- Jan Vesely
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by QuantumMacgyver on Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:38 am
QuantumMacGyver FINAL MOCK-
Q-Mac are you SURE this is the final mock? It goes against the "being right" strategy I posted above your final mock!
There is still time to reconsider. You don't have any provisions for a trade. What's up with that?
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Well my mock just got exploded by the Bobcats, Bucks and Kings trade.
Jerry Sloan >>>>>>>> Everything else.
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1-Irving
2-Williams
3-Kanter
4-Valanciunas
5-Knight
6-Vesey
7-Biyombo
8-Thristan
9-Leonard
10-Jimmer
11-Thompson
12-Walker
2-Williams
3-Kanter
4-Valanciunas
5-Knight
6-Vesey
7-Biyombo
8-Thristan
9-Leonard
10-Jimmer
11-Thompson
12-Walker
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^^^
That's very close to my final mock.
That's very close to my final mock.
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I didn't post my mock but I won.
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I guess we could have seen this becoming the guess the 12th pick contest.
I don't think anyone without that pick scored more than the value of hitting that one.
I don't think anyone without that pick scored more than the value of hitting that one.
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I got Burks right, so suck it.
"Thibs called back and wanted more picks," said Jorge Sedano. "And Pat Riley, literally, I was told, called him a mother-bleeper and hung up the phone."
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I have
1 point with irving
2 points with Williams
10 points with Kanter
7 Points with Biyombo
and 20 with Burks.
So, I have 40 points.
1 point with irving
2 points with Williams
10 points with Kanter
7 Points with Biyombo
and 20 with Burks.
So, I have 40 points.

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wow, nicely done. I'll bet you win.
"Thibs called back and wanted more picks," said Jorge Sedano. "And Pat Riley, literally, I was told, called him a mother-bleeper and hung up the phone."