[2011 NBA Draft Thread] - June 23rd, 7PM EST on ESPN

[magnumt]

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What: 2011 NBA draft
When: June 23
Where: Prudential Center - Newark, N.J.
Time: 7 ET (ESPN, ESPN3)
Rounds: Two rounds

FIRST ROUND DRAFT ORDER
1 Cleveland Cavaliers (from L.A. Clippers)
2 Minnesota Timberwolves
3 Utah Jazz (from New Jersey)
4 Cleveland Cavaliers
5 Toronto Raptors
6 Washington Wizards
7 Sacramento Kings
8 Detroit Pistons
9 Charlotte Bobcats
10 Milwaukee Bucks
11 Golden State Warriors
12 Utah Jazz
13 Phoenix Suns
14 Houston Rockets
15 Indiana Pacers
16 Philadelphia 76ers
17 New York Knicks
18 Washington Wizards (from Atlanta)
19 Charlotte Bobcats (from New Orleans via Portland)
20 Minnesota Timberwolves (from Memphis via Utah)
21 Portland Trail Blazers
22 Denver Nuggets
23 Houston Rockets (from Orlando via Phoenix)
24 Oklahoma City Thunder
25 Boston Celtics
26 Dallas Mavericks
27 New Jersey Nets (from L.A. Lakers)
28 Chicago Bulls (from Miami via Toronto)
29 San Antonio Spurs
30 Chicago Bulls

SECOND ROUND DRAFT ORDER
31 Miami Heat (from Minnesota)
32 Cleveland Cavaliers
33 Detroit Pistons (from Toronto)
34 Washington Wizards
35 Sacramento Kings
36 New Jersey Nets
37 Los Angeles Clippers (from Detroit)
38 Houston Rockets (from L.A. Clippers)
39 Charlotte Bobcats
40 Milwaukee Bucks
41 Los Angeles Lakers (from Golden State via New Jersey)
42 Indiana Pacers
43 Chicago Bulls (from Utah)
44 Golden State Warriors (from Phoenix)
45 New Orleans Hornets (from Philadelphia)
46 Los Angeles Lakers (from New York)
47 Los Angeles Clippers (from Houston)
48 Atlanta Hawks
49 Memphis Grizzlies
50 Philadelphia 76ers (from New Orleans)
51 Portland Trail Blazers
52 Detroit Pistons (from Denver Nuggets)
53 Orlando Magic
54 Cleveland Cavaliers (from Oklahoma City via Miami)
55 Boston Celtics
56 Los Angeles Lakers
57 Dallas Mavericks
58 Los Angeles Lakers (from Miami)
59 San Antonio Spurs
60 Sacramento Kings (from Chicago via Milwaukee)

--Mags

[magnumt]

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[SARGO127]

first

[SonOfMars]

I was writing this when the last topic was locked...so dammit imma say it!

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Even if Shumpert didnt improve his jumper, and I was coach..i'd still play him

With a lineup that features Melo, Billups, and STAT it wouldnt hurt to have that guy in the game strictly for defensive purposes...he'd be put to guard the Kobes, Wades, Ellis', because God knows Billups couldnt keep up with those guys

Almost every good team has "that guy", thats in the game for defense alone....

Bogans, Stevenson, Thabo, TAllen, Artest, etc
And sure they all could knock down the open shot, but i dont think Shumperts shot is bad enough to the point that he cant knock down the open shot when found on a double-team

[Marty McFly]

Go Knicks!

[Knicksfan20]

Shumpert only scored .1 less then westbrook in both lane agility and full court sprint. His no step vert =s Westbrooks MAX vert. And is stronger.

Shumpert is quicker/stronger then T will and his no step vert also ='s that of T will.


Dude is a freak of nature. He can always learn how to shoot. I think id rather have SHumpert then Brooks.

[Rasho Brezec]

I have a bad feeling our pick will be completely D'Antoni's.

[Red Vines]

I'll say this: learning from past drafts, I will take the wait and see approach to whoever we pick...

[TrueWarrior]

I was writing this when the last topic was locked...so dammit imma say it!

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Even if Shumpert didnt improve his jumper, and I was coach..i'd still play him

With a lineup that features Melo, Billups, and STAT it wouldnt hurt to have that guy in the game strictly for defensive purposes...he'd be put to guard the Kobes, Wades, Ellis', because God knows Billups couldnt keep up with those guys

Almost every good team has "that guy", thats in the game for defense alone....

Bogans, Stevenson, Thabo, TAllen, Artest, etc
And sure they all could knock down the open shot, but i dont think Shumperts shot is bad enough to the point that he cant knock down the open shot when found on a double-team

Yes that is the role I envision for Shumpert. If we take him it should be as a defensive SG, not as a PG. Ive seen enough of him as a PG to know hes not one. Have him work on that jumper day and night. Get that corner three Bruce Bowen ish down. Then hed be EXACTLY what we need at SG, but again everything depends on his jumper.

[SonOfMars]

I'll say this: learning from past drafts, I will take the wait and see approach to whoever we pick...

Agreed. No immediate lashing out if the pick isnt your favorite..

[HesGotLength]

Hey guys,

I've been working on a 60 player, Knicks specific draft board over the past few days (I've had the week off between jobs). I'm going to post it here, in segments. Along with player ranking, I've included a short description about what I like and don't like about each player. Any feedback would be sweet.

1. Derrick Williams, PF, Arizona: Elite college scorer. Very, very good rebounder. He can defend
any position from the 3 to 5. Future all-star.

2. Kyrie Irving, PG, Duke: By far the best PG in the country last year. He has limited college experience, but he was fantastic before he got injured.

3. Brandon Knight, PG, Kentucky: He’s the next star pg from a growing lineage of elite Kentucky point guards. He didn’t always show great PG skill this past season, but he really turned it on late.

4. Enes Kanter, C, Turkey: Pretty much a complete unknown. He’s getting drafted purely off of one all-star game and his performance in Chicago. He looks a little awkward when he plays, but he has a ton of tools, physically and skill-wise to become a productive NBA center.

5. Jimmer Fredette, PG, BYU: Risky pick with gigantic upside. Elite scoring PG who can score from anywhere on the court. His ability to pass is an unknown and he didn’t show interest in playing defense in college. But, he’s got one undeniable skill and the upside to become a fantastic PG in the right system. He doesn’t even have a very low downside, as worst case scenario, he’s a very rich man’s Eddie House.

6. Bismack Biyombo, C, Congo: He’s got all the physical tools you can want in an NBA center. He’s got a ridiculous wingspan, great weight for the position and he can jump. He has already shown excellent defensive skills in a league that is far superior to NCAA basketball. I think he’ll be a great shot blocker right away in the NBA. Outside of shot blocking, he doesn’t have a ton else. Right now, I think he’s a slightly overrated rebounder. I’d compare his current rebounding skill to someone like Matthew Bryan-Amaning, which isn’t bad (that’s all MBA can really do), but isn’t elite. Offensively, Biyombo is somewhat underrated (he’s not anywhere as bad as the Treviso video), but he’s still a mess. Biyombo is a very cerebral player with enormous upside. Biyombo is an ideal fit for the Knicks system.

7. Tristan Thompson, PF, Texas: He’s just a little shorter and lighter than ideal for a center. If he had a slightly bigger physique, he’d be my #3 ranked player. A one and done player for Texas, Thompson is a rebounding beast. In my opinion, he was a close 2nd as best rebounder in the nation. I think Thompson’s upside is way better then Faried’s though.

8. Alec Burks, SG, Colorado: In my opinion, the best scoring SG in the nation. He’s absolutely terrifying off the dribble. He was an incredible scorer for Colorado, which is more impressive because Colorado’s coaching staff sucks. His 3 point shooting sucked in college, but he’s got great form. My biggest worry about Burks is that he seemed to have a low basketball IQ in college.

9. Kemba Walker, PG, UConn: Kemba had a ridiculously good junior year at UConn. He’s a proven winner. Offensively, Walker carried UConn to the national championship, despite the fact he played out of control at times. He can put up points in bunches, but his real skill is distributing the ball. I really like Kemba as a true PG in the NBA. My biggest worry is that he’s pretty small for an NBA PG and he forces some shots.

10. Jonas Valanciunas, C, Lithuinia: Valanciunas is a player I know very little about. He seems to play very efficiently, he has very good size and plays the pick and roll very well. He has contract issues.

11-20 coming shortly...

[Grinditout]

If we somehow get either Jimmer, Walker, Bismack, Burks, or Klay without giving up anyone I'd be ecstatic.

Shumpert or Markieff would still be solid picks.

Anyone else, and I'd be disappointed.

[Day_Man]

just looked at 3 undated mock (6-23) all had NY taking Shumpert at #17.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I'll say this: learning from past drafts, I will take the wait and see approach to whoever we pick...

Agreed. No immediate lashing out if the pick isnt your favorite..

Unless if it's Faried.

[Grinditout]

I'll say this: learning from past drafts, I will take the wait and see approach to whoever we pick...

Agreed. No immediate lashing out if the pick isnt your favorite..

Unless if it's Faried.

Or Selby

[knicks718]

Who else thinks knicks pick somebody unexpected that no one saw coming, like every draft?

[Fury]

Knicks gonna pick Travis Leslie.

[bigfnjoe96]

Kemba... Kemba... Kemba...

[NBA Fan 1234]

Agreed. No immediate lashing out if the pick isnt your favorite..

Unless if it's Faried.

Or Selby

Sager has to stop trying to be like Clyde...dude is wearing a velvet suit.

[Grinditout]

Who else thinks knicks pick somebody unexpected that no one some coming, like every draft?

Worked out well last draft lol.