The Jonas Valanciunas Thread

Post #561 » by **DG88** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

Jonas is a good pick though

JunkYardSubs · Post #562 » by **JunkYardSubs** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

Bargs seems like he's on the go by the tone of Bryans voice

Homer Jay · Post #563 » by **Homer Jay** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

So Clutch wrote:
Homer Jay wrote:
bigdirty wrote:Schad, y'all are definitely entitled to your support of Val. I just don't see it at all. =\ The only thing that can change it is if Bargs is somehow gone.

But he is undoubtedly the player that makes that situation most likely. I'm sorry but Knight or Walker would have indicated that Bargs was going nowhere.

How does Bargs have any impact on Val in that sense? It's not like we picked a jump shooting finesse big.....

Who says we need a finesse jump shooting big? Amir and Ed cannot play C full time and this kid can.

Walid · Post #564 » by **Walid** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

Bargs + Valanciunas...

Lovin' it, can't wait for the season!

So Clutch · Post #565 » by **So Clutch** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

Choker wrote:
J.Kim wrote:
Choker wrote:For those who like this pick, what do you think Val's ceiling is? My assessment, he's mainly a pick and roll player, I don't see the defense in him that people are stapling onto his resume, good rebounder, decent shotblocker, can't create his own shot. So a taller Joakim Noah with more of a pick and roll game with less defense. That's a decent player I guess.

In this draft, I'd gladly take a version of Noah.

Well with less defense, which is Noah's strength. Val doesn't strike me as having a high basketball IQ. Noah's is very high.

He doesn't strike you as having high BB IQ? Maybe you perceive Noah as having more BB IQ because you've now watched several seasons of NBA regular season, playoff play, watched him give interviews, watch him talk **** to LeBron, etc, whereas Val is still learning the language, with minimal basketball exposure to the fans here. Very superficial impression.

raps91 · Post #566 » by **raps91** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

Choker wrote:For those who like this pick, what do you think Val's ceiling is? My assessment, he's mainly a pick and roll player, I don't see the defense in him that people are stapling onto his resume, good rebounder, decent shotblocker, can't create his own shot. So a taller Joakim Noah with more of a pick and roll game with less defense. That's a decent player I guess.

Pau Gasol

wtfbosh · Post #567 » by **wtfbosh** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

JunkYardSubs wrote:Bargs seems like he's on the go by the tone of Bryans voice

What did he say? At this point, I expect him to be here...FOREVER.

WhatsaTDot · Post #568 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:57 am

Mad Prophet wrote:Good pick, and next year we get our future PG.

I'm on board!

Tofubeque · Post #569 » by **Tofubeque** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:57 am

Mad Prophet wrote:Good pick, and next year we get our future PG.

This picture is too perfect.

Kabookalu · Post #570 » by **Kabookalu** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:57 am

So Clutch wrote:He doesn't strike you as having high BB IQ? Maybe you perceive Noah as having more BB IQ because you've now watched several seasons of NBA regular season, playoff play, watched him give interviews, watch him talk **** to LeBron, etc, whereas Val is still learning the language, with minimal basketball exposure to the fans here. Very superficial impression.

....conducting interviews or the way you present yourself has nothing to do with basketball IQ.

Visceral · Post #571 » by **Visceral** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:58 am

I'm glad we picked Jonas.

Because it showed me who was ignorant, clueless and who actually knew a thing or two about basketball. Watching the general board when we picked was pure comedy. For me.

Post #572 » by **darth_federer** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:58 am

WhatsaTDot wrote:
darth_federer wrote:
Magic Bean wrote:Where's Lionel Messi when you need him?

Now is a perfect time for him to say that nobody around here uses the word "euro" pejoratively.

he got waived

I missed that. Was this recent?

Derozan got a haircut and a thread was made. Messi made a tongue in cheek comment "f the mods up the (you know what)" and he got waived.

So Clutch · Post #573 » by **So Clutch** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:58 am

Homer Jay wrote:
So Clutch wrote:How does Bargs have any impact on Val in that sense? It's not like we picked a jump shooting finesse big.....

Who says we need a finesse jump shooting big? Amir and Ed cannot play C full time and this kid can.

I know I quoted you, but I was kind of referring to the argument you having with that other guy. If you read what I wrote, you will see I am agreeing with you. Why on earth would I be advocating for another jump shooting big man?

bonjovi0308 · Post #574 » by **bonjovi0308** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:59 am

Kemba was my 1st choice while Vals is my 2nd, so I won't complain much. Gotta appreciate BC willing to pick a project instead of turning into 'win now' mode. Some of you guys are crazy that wanting Biyombo over Vals.

disoblige · Post #575 » by **disoblige** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:59 am

2010-2011 STATS
PPG: 7.7
RPG: 5.8
APG: 0.2
SPG: 0.2
2P%: 70.8%
3P%: 0%
FT%: 88.5%
BLK: 0.5

Wingspan: 7.6'

his ft% , 2pt % , wingspan and reb are great.

Post #576 » by **Undefeated** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:00 am

So Clutch wrote:He doesn't strike you as having high BB IQ? Maybe you perceive Noah as having more BB IQ because you've now watched several seasons of NBA regular season, playoff play, watched him give interviews, watch him talk **** to LeBron, etc, whereas Val is still learning the language, with minimal basketball exposure to the fans here. Very superficial impression.

Valaciunas has some solid basketball IQ. I know highlights don't mean much, but Val is really good at recognizing when to cut to the basket for a easy alley-oop pass. A player who recognizes when to cut easily demonstrates high IQ.

Kabookalu · Post #577 » by **Kabookalu** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:00 am

Drafting a project big who could one day be what Biedrins was for 2 seasons *sigh*

Post #578 » by **darth_federer** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:00 am

Should be fun next year...

Visceral · Post #579 » by **Visceral** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:01 am

I'm support Jonas but that tank pic is PURE COMEDY!!!

Seriously. Bravo. God damn.

sudbury-rapsfan · Post #580 » by **sudbury-rapsfan** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:01 am

I like Jonas as the pick. A simple breakdown might be:

Strengths: size, age, international experience, good motor, strong right hand finisher, good ft %, strong motor/energy player, upside future potential

Weaknesses: left hand ability, limited shooting range, defensive size match up problems, present team buyout clause

Are you happy with the Raptors selection 5th overall?