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2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II

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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#581 » by luenell » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:51 am

flatjacket1 wrote:Raptors Receive:
Draft rights to Brandon Knight
2012 first round pick (unprotected)
Rip Hamilton
Ben Wallace

Detroit receives:
Andrea Bargnani
Jose Calderon

Its basically Andrea for 2012 pick and Knight, Jose and Rip are brought into it to make the deal work financially.

OR

Raptors trade:
Cash

Any team trades:
2nd round pick

Stop smoking crack.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#582 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:51 am

To TOR: Flynn + Walton
To HOU: Barnes (Or Blake) + LAL 2013 1st Round Pick
To LAL: Calderon

* Maybe add Kleiza for TE from LAL

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Johnson / Klezia
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / Val / Alabi

now there would need to be other deals made if BC is going after a C in FA. Maybe you try and sneak Kleiza to LAL for their sasha TE?

Bargnani for S&T Wilson Chandler?

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Chandler / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Dalembert (FA) / Val / Alabi

?
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#583 » by luenell » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:15 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:To TOR: Flynn + Walton
To HOU: Barnes (Or Blake) + LAL 2013 1st Round Pick
To LAL: Calderon

* Maybe add Kleiza for TE from LAL

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Johnson / Klezia
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / Val / Alabi

now there would need to be other deals made if BC is going after a C in FA. Maybe you try and sneak Kleiza to LAL for their sasha TE?

Bargnani for S&T Wilson Chandler?

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Chandler / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Dalembert (FA) / Val / Alabi

?

Why in the hell would the lakers do that?
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#584 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:16 am

luenell wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:To TOR: Flynn + Walton
To HOU: Barnes (Or Blake) + LAL 2013 1st Round Pick
To LAL: Calderon

* Maybe add Kleiza for TE from LAL

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Johnson / Klezia
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / Val / Alabi

now there would need to be other deals made if BC is going after a C in FA. Maybe you try and sneak Kleiza to LAL for their sasha TE?

Bargnani for S&T Wilson Chandler?

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Chandler / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Dalembert (FA) / Val / Alabi

?

Why in the hell would the lakers do that?


are you serious lol? They majorly upgrade their PG rotation and get rid of Walton.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#585 » by luenell » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:21 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
luenell wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:To TOR: Flynn + Walton
To HOU: Barnes (Or Blake) + LAL 2013 1st Round Pick
To LAL: Calderon

* Maybe add Kleiza for TE from LAL

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Johnson / Klezia
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / Val / Alabi

now there would need to be other deals made if BC is going after a C in FA. Maybe you try and sneak Kleiza to LAL for their sasha TE?

Bargnani for S&T Wilson Chandler?

Bayless / Flynn
Derozan / Barbosa
Chandler / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Dalembert (FA) / Val / Alabi

?

Why in the hell would the lakers do that?


are you serious lol? They majorly upgrade their PG rotation and get rid of Walton.


Yeah, I think they can do better than paying the annual $8 million Calderon is owned while watching 29 of the other starting pgs in the league blow by him
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#586 » by flatjacket1 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:26 am

elmer_yuck wrote:Wow, someone thinks Bargnani is worth 2 lottery picks!
My jaw dropped when I read this one.
Why not 3 or 4 lottery picks?


Great to hear your a professional NBA scout. If you think there is no market for Bargnani you are truly mislead.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#587 » by luenell » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:04 am

flatjacket1 wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:Wow, someone thinks Bargnani is worth 2 lottery picks!
My jaw dropped when I read this one.
Why not 3 or 4 lottery picks?


Great to hear your a professional NBA scout. If you think there is no market for Bargnani you are truly mislead.


lol, there's a big difference between being a trade market and a team like the pistons basically giving up all their future assets for a guy who isn't a superstar. I mean a 2012 unprotected pick + Brandon Knight? You don't need to be a scout to know there's no chance in hell thats happening. You can hire a crackhead as the Pistons GM and that still would'nt hapen
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#588 » by Mr Swagtastic » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:58 pm

Jonas Valanciunas and Bryan Colangelo to Milwaukee for Drew Gooden

Reason being is Colangelo gets one more chance to screw this team over in the end which he seems to do a lot of lately
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#589 » by sweetcity » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:01 pm

I still think the Raps need to target Brandon Jennings to keep DeMar happy, not to mention there arent many future PG prospects i like next year other then Kendell Marshall. Minny is a logical trading partner with Calderon and Beasley.

After Redd's contract expires

Bucks Receive

Mike Beasley + Ridnour

Raps Receive

Brandon Jennings + filler contracts

T Wolves Receive

Calderon + lottery protected pick from raps??

2012 Raps

Jennings - Bayless
Demar - T Williams CDR etc
Perry Jones Harrison Barnes? - James Johnson
Ed Davis - Andrea Bargnani
Jonas V - Amir
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#590 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:32 pm

sweetcity wrote:I still think the Raps need to target Brandon Jennings to keep DeMar happy, not to mention there arent many future PG prospects i like next year other then Kendell Marshall. Minny is a logical trading partner with Calderon and Beasley.

After Redd's contract expires

Bucks Receive

Mike Beasley + Ridnour

Raps Receive

Brandon Jennings + filler contracts

T Wolves Receive

Calderon + lottery protected pick from raps??

2012 Raps

Jennings - Bayless
Demar - T Williams CDR etc
Perry Jones Harrison Barnes? - James Johnson
Ed Davis - Andrea Bargnani
Jonas V - Amir


id do that but i dont see the Wolves doing it. Some big needs to go. Id want Andrea to go but it seems Casey and BC intend on making him work
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#591 » by Silk Wilkes » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:55 pm

It almost makes me sick to propose this because of how much Ed has grown on me, but would anyone go for something like this with Jonas and another big man in free agency likely coming in?

Ed Davis for Paul George

Indiana is really high on George so I doubt anyone outside of DeRozan or Davis gets the job done, and with the glut at the Power Forward spot Ed seems like the best option for a deal like this.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#592 » by witnessraps » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:59 pm

Youngblood wrote:It almost makes me sick to propose this because of how much Ed has grown on me, but would anyone go for something like this with Jonas and another big man in free agency likely coming in?

Ed Davis for Paul George

Indiana is really high on George so I doubt anyone outside of DeRozan or Davis gets the job done, and with the glut at the Power Forward spot Ed seems like the best option for a deal like this.


Why don't we just draft a small forward next year instead of trading away one of our best prospects.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#593 » by Silk Wilkes » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:00 pm

witnessraps wrote:
Youngblood wrote:It almost makes me sick to propose this because of how much Ed has grown on me, but would anyone go for something like this with Jonas and another big man in free agency likely coming in?

Ed Davis for Paul George

Indiana is really high on George so I doubt anyone outside of DeRozan or Davis gets the job done, and with the glut at the Power Forward spot Ed seems like the best option for a deal like this.


Why don't we just draft a small forward next year instead of trying away one of our best prospects.


It's just an idea, but the draft is obviously an option as well.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#594 » by pspot » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:00 pm

has the TPE expired?
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#595 » by witnessraps » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:03 pm

pspot wrote:has the TPE expired?


Doubt it, it was a year long, and it was acquired during the Bosh trade which was in July.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#596 » by Silk Wilkes » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:19 pm

How do we get Greg Monroe? Is it even possible? I highly doubt it, but I'm holding out hope...
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#597 » by witnessraps » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:21 pm

Youngblood wrote:How do we get Greg Monroe? Is it even possible? I highly doubt it, but I'm holding out hope...


It's probably impossible. It would have to be 2 of Ed, DeMar, 2012 unprotected?

And we just drafted a guy who plays the same position....
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#598 » by Silk Wilkes » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:25 pm

witnessraps wrote:
Youngblood wrote:How do we get Greg Monroe? Is it even possible? I highly doubt it, but I'm holding out hope...


It's probably impossible. It would have to be 2 of Ed, DeMar, 2012 unprotected?

And we just drafted a guy who plays the same position....


I think Monroe is best suited for the Power Forward spot although it would be the end for Ed. Monroe compliments the style of Big V extremely well. But if it would actually take 2 of those assets then Detroit can kiss my butt.
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#599 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:47 pm

Youngblood wrote:It almost makes me sick to propose this because of how much Ed has grown on me, but would anyone go for something like this with Jonas and another big man in free agency likely coming in?

Ed Davis for Paul George

Indiana is really high on George so I doubt anyone outside of DeRozan or Davis gets the job done, and with the glut at the Power Forward spot Ed seems like the best option for a deal like this.


Its pretty realistic IMO. If were going after a C in FA and Val is more of a project i can see this happening. I would like to include Klezia somehow though

Bayless / Calderon
Derozan / Barbosa
George / Johnson
Bargnani / Amir
C (FA) / Val

draft Myck next year and were looking alright. Ed i hate to lose but i think BC is committed to making Bargnani work and George is good friends with Derozan
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Re: 2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II 

Post#600 » by Silk Wilkes » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:55 pm

Yea it all depends on the situation. I wonder if there's an option at Point Guard available as opposed to Paul George, since next years draft is loaded with wing talent. It's just so that we don't bank on getting Myck who could get snatched up before our pick, whereas there are a plethora of wings to choose from.

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