Did the front office tank the draft?
Did the front office tank the draft?
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Did the front office tank the draft?
I think most would agree that the draft day was a huge disappointment.
Is it possible that the front office chose to tank the draft in order to make leaving Sacramento after this season all the easier for them?
If it's not intentional, why was draft day so poorly executed, and who should be heald responsible?
Who should be fired?
Is it possible that the front office chose to tank the draft in order to make leaving Sacramento after this season all the easier for them?
If it's not intentional, why was draft day so poorly executed, and who should be heald responsible?
Who should be fired?
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Can't blame Petrie for Jimmer until proven otherwise, but the trade to move down when we COULD HAVE HAD WALKER OR KNIGHT was TERRIBLE. I would have rather offered similar money to a FA SF than to pick up Salmons again. It seems like just yesterday, everyone was complaining that he was too much of a ball hog....

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Im so dissapointed with there decisions right now.... we moved 3 spots back plus we got an even uglier contract!!!
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I'm against a lot of what happened, but let's chill a little guys. If Salmons has a revival here in Sac and finds a way to fit in, suddenly we're looking good.
And while I would have loved Knight, and again, was disappointed with how things turned out, we didn't miss out on a future superstar.
And while I would have loved Knight, and again, was disappointed with how things turned out, we didn't miss out on a future superstar.
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The draft will be a success IF:
Salmons settles into a role of being a facilitator/defender/ mentor who does not need to play 30+ minutes a game.
Jimmer does not pull an Adam Morrison and forget how to play basketball
I honestly know nothing about Honeycutt so I am not going to comment on him.
Salmons settles into a role of being a facilitator/defender/ mentor who does not need to play 30+ minutes a game.
Jimmer does not pull an Adam Morrison and forget how to play basketball
I honestly know nothing about Honeycutt so I am not going to comment on him.
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Dustin5566 wrote:The draft will be a success IF:
Salmons settles into a role of being a facilitator/defender/ mentor who does not need to play 30+ minutes a game.
Jimmer does not pull an Adam Morrison and forget how to play basketball
I honestly know nothing about Honeycutt so I am not going to comment on him.
So we're paying Salmons $8 million a year to be a good defender who plays 25-28 minutes a game? What?

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xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Dustin5566 wrote:The draft will be a success IF:
Salmons settles into a role of being a facilitator/defender/ mentor who does not need to play 30+ minutes a game.
Jimmer does not pull an Adam Morrison and forget how to play basketball
I honestly know nothing about Honeycutt so I am not going to comment on him.
So we're paying Salmons $8 million a year to be a good defender who plays 25-28 minutes a game? What?
We are paying him 8 million/year to be a professional and provide a veteren presence to our young guys. We are also counting on him being a key component in our offenive and defensive strategy. His value goes beyond the court and he is already well liked in the Sacramento community
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On top of that. After this year, Salmons salary goes down.
At the end of this year the Kings were paying about $42 million to its players. I project that next year they will be paying $47 million. That money will be going to Thornton.
10/11 season
Samuel Dalembert..............13,438,129
Hassan Whiteside.................730,437
Cousins........................3,374,640
Thompson......................$2,178,000
Jackson.........................$854,389
Greene..........................$930,700
Casspi........................$1,254,480
Garcia........................$5,500,000
Pooh............................$473,604
Beno..........................$6,478,600
Evans.........................$3,880,920
Thornton........................$762,195
Taylor..........................$780,871
Head............................$854,389
total........................$41,491,354
11/12 season
Hassan..........................$788,872
Cousins.......................$3,627,720
Thompson......................$3,001,284
Green.........................$1,679,914
Casspi........................$1,341,960
Garcia........................$5,800,000
Evans.........................$4,151,640
Salmons.......................$8,500,000
total........................$28,891,390
Jimmer........................$1,807,100
Isaiah..........................$500,000
Honeycutt.......................$800,000
Thornton......................$5,000,000
Dalembert....................$10,000,000
total........................$46,998,490
Finally, I expect that Donte Greene will be traded for a pick/cash because he is an expiring contract next year.
At the end of this year the Kings were paying about $42 million to its players. I project that next year they will be paying $47 million. That money will be going to Thornton.
10/11 season
Samuel Dalembert..............13,438,129
Hassan Whiteside.................730,437
Cousins........................3,374,640
Thompson......................$2,178,000
Jackson.........................$854,389
Greene..........................$930,700
Casspi........................$1,254,480
Garcia........................$5,500,000
Pooh............................$473,604
Beno..........................$6,478,600
Evans.........................$3,880,920
Thornton........................$762,195
Taylor..........................$780,871
Head............................$854,389
total........................$41,491,354
11/12 season
Hassan..........................$788,872
Cousins.......................$3,627,720
Thompson......................$3,001,284
Green.........................$1,679,914
Casspi........................$1,341,960
Garcia........................$5,800,000
Evans.........................$4,151,640
Salmons.......................$8,500,000
total........................$28,891,390
Jimmer........................$1,807,100
Isaiah..........................$500,000
Honeycutt.......................$800,000
Thornton......................$5,000,000
Dalembert....................$10,000,000
total........................$46,998,490
Finally, I expect that Donte Greene will be traded for a pick/cash because he is an expiring contract next year.
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Dustin5566 wrote:xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Dustin5566 wrote:The draft will be a success IF:
Salmons settles into a role of being a facilitator/defender/ mentor who does not need to play 30+ minutes a game.
Jimmer does not pull an Adam Morrison and forget how to play basketball
I honestly know nothing about Honeycutt so I am not going to comment on him.
So we're paying Salmons $8 million a year to be a good defender who plays 25-28 minutes a game? What?
We are paying him 8 million/year to be a professional and provide a veteren presence to our young guys. We are also counting on him being a key component in our offenive and defensive strategy. His value goes beyond the court and he is already well liked in the Sacramento community
Are we talking about the same player here? The same John Salmons that was basically traded (along with Miller) for straight up salary purposes? The same John Salmons that people begged to pass the ball more often?

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That was a vastly different team than the one Salmons will be playing for this time around. Jason Thompson and Garcia are the only core pieces that remain from that team.
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That's true.
That team won 38 games and this one struggled to win 24 games.
That team won 38 games and this one struggled to win 24 games.

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All the more reason to welcome John Salmons back.
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Wait, I forgot to point out that Westfail wasn't the coach of that team, either.
Damn.
Damn.

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I'm not mad about who we drafted. If we drafted Jimmer at #7, I would have questioned it, but been able to live with the decision. I'm upset that we traded down and downgraded the team as a whole.
Our team well be a headless chicken next year. Unless we instantly move one of Salmons/Garcia, I don't see us spending the money on another guard/wing (assuming we resign Thornton). Tyreke has shown that he is not a pointguard/play maker. We NEED someone else facilitating for this team.
And for everyone who didn't want Parker, or Jefferson, or Felton, or any of the other guys that were rumored or suggested because of their age...I'm pretty sure Salmons is the oldest of anyone that was ever brought up...and has the longest contract. AWESOME
Our team well be a headless chicken next year. Unless we instantly move one of Salmons/Garcia, I don't see us spending the money on another guard/wing (assuming we resign Thornton). Tyreke has shown that he is not a pointguard/play maker. We NEED someone else facilitating for this team.
And for everyone who didn't want Parker, or Jefferson, or Felton, or any of the other guys that were rumored or suggested because of their age...I'm pretty sure Salmons is the oldest of anyone that was ever brought up...and has the longest contract. AWESOME
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What I am absolutely terrified about, is how DeMarcus will react next season.
In my mind, our team should be built around DeMarcus. Not Tyreke, not Thornton, not Jimmer, but DeMarcus. Tyreke won't be our best player. DeMarcus will.
However, when we start out the season, I predict there will be a lot of bumps and slow starts (due to us having no facilitator perhaps?).
With Tyreke, Thornton, Salmons, and Jimmer getting their shots, DeMarcus will really be short on touches. I pray to God, that he doesn't overreact and do something stupid because of this.
I can already see troubles ahead, of Cousins blowing up, because of his lack of touches and our team losing. =/
In my mind, our team should be built around DeMarcus. Not Tyreke, not Thornton, not Jimmer, but DeMarcus. Tyreke won't be our best player. DeMarcus will.
However, when we start out the season, I predict there will be a lot of bumps and slow starts (due to us having no facilitator perhaps?).
With Tyreke, Thornton, Salmons, and Jimmer getting their shots, DeMarcus will really be short on touches. I pray to God, that he doesn't overreact and do something stupid because of this.
I can already see troubles ahead, of Cousins blowing up, because of his lack of touches and our team losing. =/
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deNIEd wrote:What I am absolutely terrified about, is how DeMarcus will react next season.
In my mind, our team should be built around DeMarcus. Not Tyreke, not Thornton, not Jimmer, but DeMarcus. Tyreke won't be our best player. DeMarcus will.
However, when we start out the season, I predict there will be a lot of bumps and slow starts (due to us having no facilitator perhaps?).
With Tyreke, Thornton, Salmons, and Jimmer getting their shots, DeMarcus will really be short on touches. I pray to God, that he doesn't overreact and do something stupid because of this.
I can already see troubles ahead, of Cousins blowing up, because of his lack of touches and our team losing. =/
This is why we need to play through DeMarcus and use his post and passing abilities.
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deNIEd wrote:I'm not mad about who we drafted. If we drafted Jimmer at #7, I would have questioned it, but been able to live with the decision. I'm upset that we traded down and downgraded the team as a whole.
Our team well be a headless chicken next year. Unless we instantly move one of Salmons/Garcia, I don't see us spending the money on another guard/wing (assuming we resign Thornton). Tyreke has shown that he is not a pointguard/play maker. We NEED someone else facilitating for this team.
And for everyone who didn't want Parker, or Jefferson, or Felton, or any of the other guys that were rumored or suggested because of their age...I'm pretty sure Salmons is the oldest of anyone that was ever brought up...and has the longest contract. AWESOME
You need to look at Parker's and Jefferson's contracts.
Next, our offense sucked because we had no shooters. The Kings were the 5th worst three point shooting team last year, which led to Tyreke's ineffectiveness and Cousins' high turnover rate.
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Agreed; but trading for and drafting two players who are used to having the ball in their hands is NOT going to help that cause.
