The Jonas Valanciunas Thread

Post #1281 » by **DG88** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:56 pm

ADoaN17 wrote:Why would Memphis want a Barg/Zbo/Gasol frontcourt? Gay is the better scorer and defender and fits on the team better.

Shh don't end the pipe dream

Bankai · Post #1282 » by **Bankai** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:59 pm

ADoaN17 wrote:Why would Memphis want a Barg/Zbo/Gasol frontcourt? Gay is the better scorer and defender and fits on the team better.

Who wouldnt want a rotational triple threat like that on your team? You got your inside and you got your outside. :dontknow:

Banks2Pierce · Post #1283 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:00 pm

FWIW, Danny Ainge was on local radio(WEEI Boston) and was asked to project who would be the best players in a few years time from this draft. Ainge said Derrick Williams and then went on to talk about Jonas. He said he has a good chance to be a top player on a team and went on to mention Marc Gasol. Ainge has been pretty good at singling out the top picks...has tried to trade up for Tyreke Evans and Chris Paul in the past, liked Cousins last year, and has a good track record for guys he's praised over the air. Thought it was interesting how he didn't bring up Kyrie.

I personally trust his eye for talent so I thought it was worthy of passing on.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #1284 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:01 pm

Question: Could Valanciunas play some 4, especially if he adds a post game? He seems to have that Pau Gasol-esque versatility, where Gasol can play both 4 and 5.

BillyGM · Post #1285 » by **BillyGM** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:04 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Question: Could Valanciunas play some 4, especially if he adds a post game? He seems to have that Pau Gasol-esque versatility, where Gasol can play both 4 and 5.

I think it's best for everyone if he stays as a 5. Why would you need JV as 4? Bargnani is better at PF then Jonas. Ed Davis should also play PF not C. If Val adds weight and strenght he will be a very strong center in the league.

Post #1286 » by **DG88** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:13 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:FWIW, Danny Ainge was on local radio(WEEI Boston) and was asked to project who would be the best players in a few years time from this draft. Ainge said Derrick Williams and then went on to talk about Jonas. He said he has a good chance to be a top player on a team and went on to mention Marc Gasol. Ainge has been pretty good at singling out the top picks...has tried to trade up for Tyreke Evans and Chris Paul in the past, liked Cousins last year, and has a good track record for guys he's praised over the air. Thought it was interesting how he didn't bring up Kyrie.

I personally trust his eye for talent so I thought it was worthy of passing on.

Ya a Celtic fan posted the link on that quote. I think once people actually watched how he plays they'll come around. I personally love the pick. When he became available along with Knight at 5, I wanted one of those two.

Garmfay · Post #1287 » by **Garmfay** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:20 pm

Bankai wrote:
Consequence wrote:Bankai, what 3-way rumour?

Their was a rumour while back, but its only that for now.
Trade to Memphis
Andrea Bargnani, Leandrinho Barbosa, Paul George

Trade to Indiana
OJ Mayo, Xavier Henry, Jose Calderon

Trade to Toronto
Rudy Gay, James Posey, Dahntay Jones

http://www.bettingsportsreview.com/news ... -grizzlies

And with the Jonas pick, the cards look like its falling into place. People expected either Amir, Ed, or Bargs to be traded after the draft choice, this could happen! *pray*

Probably forgot Pacers picked up George Hill yesterday..? They already have Hill + Collison no need Calderon

lobosloboslobos · Post #1288 » by **lobosloboslobos** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:23 pm

RINSE wrote:From Ball Dont Lie's Kelly Dwyer, his draft night grades:

Perhaps Colangelo has grown wise, and given up on his current roster. I would, too. All of 'em. And if that's the case, and he's just looking forward to 2013 with a 21-year old Valanciunas coming off his rookie year and Dwane Casey in charge, than this is something I can get behind.
Today, though, will be tough. Real tough.

Normally I don't let ignorance on the part of our neighbours to the south bug me too much but there is so damn much of it all of a sudden. What a dick. As if Ed and Demar to say nothing of Amir, Bayless and even JJ aren't very promising young players. I really can't wait till we kick ass in 2 years.

yayotube · Post #1289 » by **yayotube** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:24 pm

Check this video out it's of Valanciunas vs. Karnowski, no idea who that is but it looks like one of his big rivals in Europe. This can give us insight as to how he plays on both ends when it's personal/a challenge
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SOU7J3_wZc[/youtube]

Scraptor · Post #1290 » by **Scraptor** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:30 pm

I love how the poll has trended from the low 40s to almost 50% liking it, now that the experts are commending the pick and people actually took the time to read the scouting. I hope those who said they are done with the team actually follow through, but I suppose drama queens can always use menstruation as an excuse for their emotional highs and lows.

LithuanianOne · Post #1291 » by **LithuanianOne** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:35 pm

yayotube wrote:Check this video out it's of Valanciunas vs. Karnowski, no idea who that is but it looks like one of his big rivals in Europe. This can give us insight as to how he plays on both ends when it's personal/a challenge
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SOU7J3_wZc[/youtube]

As far as I know this polish guy isn't a rival of Valanciunas he is just another talented young player. The only rival Valanciunas has is Enes Kanter and even he isn't a "true" rival. As for the video - I think it is just an example of how he plays against bigger/stronger/bulkier opponents.

The Letter V · Post #1292 » by **The Letter V** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:36 pm

Shopped Jonas in 17;

Fairview4Life · Post #1293 » by **Fairview4Life** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:38 pm

The Letter V wrote:Shopped Jonas in 17;

He just saw a cat get run over.

HiMyNameIsTrey · Post #1294 » by **HiMyNameIsTrey** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:39 pm

NBAtv analysis for anyone who hasn't seen it
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/draft ... ciunas.nba

Post #1295 » by **DG88** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:49 pm

The Letter V wrote:Shopped Jonas in 17;

JamesNaismith · Post #1296 » by **JamesNaismith** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:54 pm

ROBBS wrote:NBAtv analysis for anyone who hasn't seen it
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/draft ... ciunas.nba

Considered by some the best prospect in the draft.

I like that!

mcray · Post #1297 » by **mcray** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:04 pm

yayotube wrote:Check this video out it's of Valanciunas vs. Karnowski, no idea who that is but it looks like one of his big rivals in Europe. This can give us insight as to how he plays on both ends when it's personal/a challenge
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SOU7J3_wZc[/youtube]

That video is pretty old. Global Games U19 world championships are starting and JV is going to play there. I'm pretty sure that "Lietuvos Rytas" website is going to stream it live for free. They have streamed today's game Lithuania vs Argentina so I'm pretty sure other games will be streamed as well. If you want I could be dropping links to the stream website for you guys.

mini · Post #1298 » by **mini** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:08 pm

BC on the fan right now talking VAL. He says he's confident, got good news this morning about the buyout.

mini · Post #1299 » by **mini** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:11 pm

Val is playing for 40-50 thousand Euros per year right now. Worst case scenario it takes 3 years although BC thinks it wouldn't come to that because they wouldn't want an 'unhappy' player on their team if they deny letting him go to the NBA.

BC: Val's development might be 'best' if he were in Europe for the coming year.

The Letter V · Post #1300 » by **The Letter V** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:15 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
The Letter V wrote:Shopped Jonas in 17;

He just saw a cat get run over.

Plus, it looks like he is a mouth-breather

Are you happy with the Raptors selection 5th overall?