2011 NBA Draft Night Thread

[fienX420]

yeah he's good too. there's a number of options better than aj as our 3rd string pg.

[JeffFosters]

Pretty sure Greg Smith went undrafted, could be a good get. Played with PG, and could replace Solo.

[chube]

yeah he's good too. there's a number of options better than aj as our 3rd string pg.

The nice thing about AJ is that he's probably played just well enough to be trade bait/part of a trade

[chatard5]

Idk, I like AJ. We are talking 3rd string PG! He wouldn't even play unless there was an injurt or a blowout. He can hit 3s and I like him as a 3. Idk that there is a better player out there as a 3rd string PG. I mean I think he's gotta be in the 61-90 range in PGs in the league, and I'd personally rather have a guy that has had a little PT just in case there were to be an injury.

[fienX420]

psycho b, pullen, & battle all better than aj. and behind them, diante garrett, demetri mccamey, & brad wanamaker.

[chatard5]

I disagree, I think AJ would outplay them all right now. But hey, that's what message boards are for.

Price actually had a +1.7 (+/-) and while he wasn't in the game it was -1.7. Now he did play against back-ups a lot, but that was him as our #2 PG, not even #3, so I like that stat, personally. He was outscored a lot, but we didn't really look for him to score except for that spark when we needed some 3s. By those #s he could definitely improve defensively, but overall he had the 4th best +/-.

Edit: Here is where I got my info: http://www.82games.com/1011/1011IND.HTM

[Boneman2]

Larry definitely hid this one close to the vest.. i hope collison and hill can coexist.

Obviously I hope larry puts in a call to GSmith, who i had us taking with the 42nd pick. if we did that I'd atleast feel like we had a 2nd round pick.

[DougInOz]

Larry definitely hid this one close to the vest.. i hope collison and hill can coexist.

Obviously I hope larry puts in a call to GSmith, who i had us taking with the 42nd pick. if we did that I'd atleast feel like we had a 2nd round pick.

Hill worked well with Parker. No excuses for bad ball movement if those two are on the floor together.

Did Greg Smith do a workout for us? Trying to find a link to his interview...

[paulgeorge24]

psycho b, pullen, & battle all better than aj. and behind them, diante garrett, demetri mccamey, & brad wanamaker.

The only one better is Pullen. But we have no need for any of them. McCamey could be interesting because he has the body but he's just missing something that he never figured out at U of I and that he might never truly find. Ben Hansbrough is awful by NBA terms. Get it through your heads people!

[Boneman2]

Yeah DouginOZ, we had smith in for a workout. he is supposedly as strong as an ox, with a lot of upside. i liken him to AD.

[DougInOz]

Was kind of hoping we would buy the rights to a backup big in the 2nd round...

[chatard5]

I can see how you could say Pullen is better, definitely. But Pullen needs shots, that's why I like AJ. I don't want me 3rd string PG shooting a lot. His assist/TO ratio was 1.2 in college. He averaged 20 points and 3.7 assists. If he didn't need as many shots (which I don't think is possible) and could dish it out effectively, I would agree. He had 7 FTA per game last year. I'd love it if he was a great scorer and better player, but this is a 3rd string guy. I don't want a 3rd string PG taking it to the basket very often (he would get blocked A LOT more, vs college, and wouldn't get the calls like he did when he was a star in the Big 12). Who knows, I think Pullen could have a decent NBA career. But I want to take my chances on AJ and see if he can get his 3-PT % back to what it was his rookie year, or even higher. I wish he got more assists, but he doesn't turn the ball over too much.

[JeffFosters]

I can see how you could say Pullen is better, definitely. But Pullen needs shots, that's why I like AJ. I don't want me 3rd string PG shooting a lot. His assist/TO ratio was 1.2 in college. He averaged 20 points and 3.7 assists. If he didn't need as many shots (which I don't think is possible) and could dish it out effectively, I would agree. He had 7 FTA per game last year. I'd love it if he was a great scorer and better player, but this is a 3rd string guy. I don't want a 3rd string PG taking it to the basket very often (he would get blocked A LOT more, vs college, and wouldn't get the calls like he did when he was a star in the Big 12). Who knows, I think Pullen could have a decent NBA career. But I want to take my chances on AJ and see if he can get his 3-PT % back to what it was his rookie year, or even higher. I wish he got more assists, but he doesn't turn the ball over too much.

Agreed. Price is fine. He can hit shots and (somewhat) run an offense, even if it only consists of him shooting off of screens. No need to make a move with the 3rd string PG.

I would see what kind of trade value he has though, as there are other holes in our roster.

[paulgeorge24]

I can see how you could say Pullen is better, definitely. But Pullen needs shots, that's why I like AJ. I don't want me 3rd string PG shooting a lot. His assist/TO ratio was 1.2 in college. He averaged 20 points and 3.7 assists. If he didn't need as many shots (which I don't think is possible) and could dish it out effectively, I would agree. He had 7 FTA per game last year. I'd love it if he was a great scorer and better player, but this is a 3rd string guy. I don't want a 3rd string PG taking it to the basket very often (he would get blocked A LOT more, vs college, and wouldn't get the calls like he did when he was a star in the Big 12). Who knows, I think Pullen could have a decent NBA career. But I want to take my chances on AJ and see if he can get his 3-PT % back to what it was his rookie year, or even higher. I wish he got more assists, but he doesn't turn the ball over too much.

Agreed. Price is fine. He can hit shots and (somewhat) run an offense, even if it only consists of him shooting off of screens. No need to make a move with the 3rd string PG.

I would see what kind of trade value he has though, as there are other holes in our roster.

He CANNOT run any offense for other people. In the Chicago series, he could barely get a pass out of his hands. Hopefully there are more people like you in some front offices that believe in him enough to give up something for him though.

[JeffFosters]

I can see how you could say Pullen is better, definitely. But Pullen needs shots, that's why I like AJ. I don't want me 3rd string PG shooting a lot. His assist/TO ratio was 1.2 in college. He averaged 20 points and 3.7 assists. If he didn't need as many shots (which I don't think is possible) and could dish it out effectively, I would agree. He had 7 FTA per game last year. I'd love it if he was a great scorer and better player, but this is a 3rd string guy. I don't want a 3rd string PG taking it to the basket very often (he would get blocked A LOT more, vs college, and wouldn't get the calls like he did when he was a star in the Big 12). Who knows, I think Pullen could have a decent NBA career. But I want to take my chances on AJ and see if he can get his 3-PT % back to what it was his rookie year, or even higher. I wish he got more assists, but he doesn't turn the ball over too much.

Agreed. Price is fine. He can hit shots and (somewhat) run an offense, even if it only consists of him shooting off of screens. No need to make a move with the 3rd string PG.

I would see what kind of trade value he has though, as there are other holes in our roster.

He CANNOT run any offense for other people. In the Chicago series, he could barely get a pass out of his hands. Hopefully there are more people like you in some front offices that believe in him enough to give up something for him though.

Ah.. sarcasm, still a mystery to many. Observe the bolded text above. I said, quite clearly yet facetiously, that his only offense is jacking up 3's. He's a chucker, and thats ok for 3rd string PG. I'm also fine if he is moved. I would prefer a veteran pass-first type as 3rd PG. Whats Rod Strickland doing these days?

[chatard5]

He'd be a 3rd stringer, he wouldn't normally be playing in the Bulls series... I don't get why you don't get this. He wouldn't even ever play. He's definitely capable for sitting on the bench.

But whatever, I'm not going to repeat that anymore, just keep thinking it means that there are more people in front offices who would trade Dirk for AJ Price.

[JeffFosters]

^ I don't see how you don't see that we are saying the same thing about him. He's not a great NBA PG, but he's only 3rd string now so what does it matter? Why would upgrading 3rd string PG be a priority? I think its a good strategy to have some good shooters at the end of the bench, and as such he is fine for 3rd string, but nothing more.

[paulgeorge24]

Ah.. sarcasm, still a mystery to many. Observe the bolded text above. I said, quite clearly yet facetiously, that his only offense is jacking up 3's. He's a chucker, and thats ok for 3rd string PG. I'm also fine if he is moved. I would prefer a veteran pass-first type as 3rd PG. Whats Rod Strickland doing these days?

Not solely directed to you my friend. No one said it should be a priority to move AJ I dont think. 3rd stringer? Irrelevant. TJ Ford was the 3rd stringer and he played in the Bulls series...A priority however is getting a shooter that isnt a black hole/liability which AJ is so maybe you can factor him in there.

chatard5, hopefully not directed to me because if it was, you blew things way out of proportion my guy.("Something for him" turns into Dirk) But props for the readable post this time.