Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert

Shemy · Post #501 » by **Shemy** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:52 am

best case: Magic Johnson

worst case: Iman Shumpert

StutterStep · Post #502 » by **StutterStep** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:00 am

GATECH3?
Is it Steph?

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #503 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:01 am

Gatech3 wrote:Disagree. Not trying to derail the thread either but Favors was averaging 18 and 9 at GT when he stayed out of foul trouble. It also didn't help that GT didn't have a good PG(counting Shumpert as a SG). Obviously Jazz fans disagree as well as they keep saying that Favors is the future of their franchise because of how well he played at the end of the year.

He averaged 12 and 8...towards the end of the season he played better. I also don't know how you can say he averaged 18 and 9 when he stayed out of foul trouble...not sure how you got that stat because you can't determine when he was in foul trouble now. Fouls are a part of the game and taking him out of foul trouble is like saying Howard could average 25 and 15 if he wasn't always in foul trouble either. Fouls are a part of the game and if he can't adjust to them, it's his fault. You shouldn't be able to pick "stats" like that (if this is even considered a legit one) to help prove a point. I feel bad for doing off topic lol.

Back on topic - he was a good pick and is a shooting guard that can handle the ball - similar to the way Joe Johnson (not comparing him to Shumpert) can handle and not be a point guard. Perfect fit net to Billups and TD because we can move those guys off ball.

RHODEY · Post #504 » by **RHODEY** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:02 am

Similar height and position.

Both picked in the teens.

Both known for their stellar Athleticism and Defensive prowess coming out of College.

Both not known for shooting efficiency/ offensive prowess initially.

Could Shumpert be the diamond in the rough the Spree turned out to be?

CoolKids · Post #505 » by **CoolKids** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:08 am

hmm interesting comparison. Shumpert lacks the intensity of sprewell but also the craziness so it might balance out. Its possible. All shumpert has to do is tighten his handle and pick his shots better and he will be a very good nba player

Pharmcat · Post #506 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:09 am

i though another thing on favors coming out was that he didnt have good guards to get him the rock at the right time during college career

LameDuck · Post #507 » by **LameDuck** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:12 am

The worst thing is that his name sounds like a scrub name.

I hope he plays well.

FutureKnicksGM · Post #508 » by **FutureKnicksGM** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:14 am

IllmaticHandler wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KO4AiBtkFU[/youtube]

Seems like a good kid. Well spoken.

TKF · Post #509 » by **TKF** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:15 am

shumpert can ball, he has size and length and a good basketball head on his shoulders. has the potential to be a great pick...

Gatech3 · Post #510 » by **Gatech3** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:15 am

Knicks1214 wrote:
Gatech3 wrote:Disagree. Not trying to derail the thread either but Favors was averaging 18 and 9 at GT when he stayed out of foul trouble. It also didn't help that GT didn't have a good PG(counting Shumpert as a SG). Obviously Jazz fans disagree as well as they keep saying that Favors is the future of their franchise because of how well he played at the end of the year.

He averaged 12 and 8...towards the end of the season he played better. I also don't know how you can say he averaged 18 and 9 when he stayed out of foul trouble...not sure how you got that stat because you can't determine when he was in foul trouble now. Fouls are a part of the game and taking him out of foul trouble is like saying Howard could average 25 and 15 if he wasn't always in foul trouble either. Fouls are a part of the game and if he can't adjust to them, it's his fault. You shouldn't be able to pick "stats" like that (if this is even considered a legit one) to help prove a point. I feel bad for doing off topic lol.

Back on topic - he was a good pick and is a shooting guard that can handle the ball - similar to the way Joe Johnson (not comparing him to Shumpert) can handle and not be a point guard. Perfect fit net to Billups and TD because we can move those guys off ball.

My bad I meant to say the last 11 games he averaged 18 and 9 and that was because he wasn't getting into early foul trouble like he did early on.

Agreed on that. Shumpert is a very good ball handler and also is a very good passer.

StutterStep · Post #511 » by **StutterStep** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:17 am

TKF, you saw him a lot since you live down there! What do you think of his handle and potential to add the three-point shot?

FutureKnicksGM · Post #512 » by **FutureKnicksGM** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:23 am

towelie wrote:Here's my prediction/player comparison.

Shumpert won't be our starting SG, but he'll grow to be our Shannon Brown.

Thats a nice comparison. He can be a guy who can bring energy and athleticism off the bench for us.

Falstaffxx · Post #513 » by **Falstaffxx** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:35 am

Pharmcat wrote:shumpert just didnt have a strong college career:

he had favors on his team, didnt stand out
once favors left, still didnt stand out

i dont mind shumpert, but at 17 i think it was too high

The notion that he "didn't stand out" when he led his team in points, rebounds, assists, and steals is pretty ridiculous.

TKF · Post #514 » by **TKF** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:36 am

StutterStep wrote:TKF, you saw him a lot since you live down there! What do you think of his handle and potential to add the three-point shot?

I saw him a few times, he has a pretty good handle and good form on his shot.. what I noticed more about him is how much he harassed ball handlers on the perimeter, this kid is a good athlete and if puts it all together can be special...

Post #515 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:40 am

Funny that Iman considers himself a pure point and envisions himself playing the point in the future and now he will probably be playing two guard. Who would you rather running the point off the bench Anthony Carter, Toney Douglas or Iman Shumpert?

SonOfMars · Post #516 » by **SonOfMars** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:41 am

Oh No. Not Another Thread!

mildred · Post #517 » by **mildred** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:46 am

Maybe Shump will choke MD.

KnicksVsHeat · Post #518 » by **KnicksVsHeat** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:47 am

mildred wrote:Maybe Shump will choke MD.

lol

Fury · Post #519 » by **Fury** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:03 am

Even if he's a PG like Westbrook, to have Shumpert running the point at that size and being able to ignite the offense is a huge advantage to have so I'd take Shumpert easy.

Pharmcat · Post #520 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:03 am

Manhattan Project wrote:Funny that Iman considers himself a pure point and envisions himself playing the point in the future and now he will probably be playing two guard. Who would you rather running the point off the bench Anthony Carter, Toney Douglas or Iman Shumpert?

it has to be TD

hes been here 2 years

now he has to take off and show what he has learned in 2 yrs invested in him