Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert

[can o peas]

Funny that Iman considers himself a pure point and envisions himself playing the point in the future and now he will probably be playing two guard. Who would you rather running the point off the bench Anthony Carter, Toney Douglas or Iman Shumpert?

That's a couple times you have posted that Iman considers himself a pure pg. Do you have a link or can you elaborate on it some (I'm not questionings the legitimacy of your claims).

I really hope he has a defined role as a sg. This pg nonsense needs to end quick.

he could be that tall pg next to our short sg (toney!)

[OoAnd1]

Cool comparison.

But I'm not holding my hopes high on our rookies anymore. They mostly disappoint.

[GONYK]

Cool comparison.

But I'm not holding my hopes high on our rookies anymore. They mostly disappoint.

Outside of Hill, who was the last rookie to disappoint?

[TrueWarrior]

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/ ... ever-seen/

Tech's Shumpert: Domination At A Level Id Never Seen

I’ve seen all the famous Georgia Tech point guards: Mark Price, Craig Neal, Kenny Anderson, Travis Best, Stephon Marbury and Jarrett Jack. I’ve seen all of those worthies have fabulous games. I’ve never seen any of them play better at both ends than Iman Shumpert did against Virginia Tech.

Much is being made of Shumpert’s triple double — only the fourth in recorded Tech annals and the first since Anderson against Pitt in December 1989 (I covered that game, incidentally) — but stats didn’t offer the full measure Tuesday night. Even more impressive was this: Shumpert took a very good opponent and destroyed him.

Virginia Tech’s Malcolm Delaney entered the game averaging 18.9 points. When last he played against the Jackets here, he’d scored 32 points in a game that nearly knocked Georgia Tech out of the 2010 NCAA tournament. On this night Delaney managed eight points — two on a goaltending call — against eight turnovers. Six of Delaney’s eight turnovers were a function of Shumpert steals.

I asked afterward how this defensive masterwork compared to that authored in Round 1 of the NCAA tournament against Oklahoma State’s James Anderson, the Big 12 player of the year. Shumpert said they were close, but that he’d probably pick the one in Milwaukee because “it was my first time in the tournament.”

Me, I actually preferred this one. It’s one thing to clamp down on a shooting guard, which you can do by denying him the ball; it’s something else to harass a seasoned point guard who has the ball in his hands all the time into something approaching surrender. (Four of Delaney’s turnovers, all Shumpert steals, came in the final five minutes.)

The offensive part: That was nice, too. Shumpert had 22 points, 12 rebounds and 11 assists against one turnover. (Against Anderson and Oklahoma State he’d had only one basket and four assists.) But over time I’ve seen lots of Tech guards dominate games on offense; I’d never seen any of them play so well over the full 94 feet.

You probably knew this already, but after such a night it seems worth saying: Iman Shumpert is one heck of a player.

Iman's triple double game seemed like an amazing performance. Almost a quadruple double with 7 steals. Most of those coming on Malcolm Delaney who Iman completely smothered and shut down for his lowest point total of the season. I wish I could watch this game because it seems like our rook completely owned the gym that night.

[juror1]

Truth is Shumpert probably wasn't a reach, he was a very good prospect who went under the radar for a bunch of teams. He's kind of an odd player as he has played PG throughout his career but as an NBA prospect fits the mold of more of a SG - one that can't shoot. He' has tremendous potential at the shooting guard position, and I would think that if he had been played as one he wouldn't have slipped nearly as far, and maybe even would have developed a jumpshot.

This guy with a developed jumpshot would have been an undisputed top 10 shooting guard prospect in this draft.

Also everyone on these boards needs to stop comparing him to PGs, he's not a point guard in the NBA, and for a best comparison ironically it's probably DeShawn Stevenson without a jumpshot (and the next Michael Jordan hype coming into the league).

[Dr. Detfink]

I'm ok with the pick, I just didn't like D'Antoni dressing him up by saying he can cover anyone from Wade, Lebron, Rose. Yea right...let's see him play on the pros before we start with that crap.

[islanders11040]

Live video of him when he was chosen

http://www.twitvid.com/F4CRP

[Knickplaya]

I hope he turns out to be a unique player, or a rare talent like a Sprewell, that would be amazing.

I am also thinking it is possible, it could be a slightly better version of Mardy Collins.

However Shumpert seems like he wants to be great. He has a great body already and ridicolously athletic. He wants to improve the areas that he is weak at, so I think we are going to have a pretty special player. However worst case scenerio for Iam, I think would be Mardy.

[vinnie_vegas69]

Cool comparison.

But I'm not holding my hopes high on our rookies anymore. They mostly disappoint.

Our last five years of rookies:

2006 - Balkman and Collins: Balkman was better as a rookie than expected, and Collins was worse, being a total bust.
2007 - Chandler: Way better than expected as a rookie and as a developed player.
2008 - Gallinari: A bit better than expected as a rookie, and much better than expected as a developed player.
2009 - Hill and Douglas: Hill was disappointing, but Douglas has been a valuable rotation player for us.
2010 - Rautins and Fields: Rautins didn't do much, but Fields started 81 games and was All-Rookie first team.

So Collins, Hill and maybe Rautins have been disappointing based on expectations in the last five years, while Balkman, Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas and Fields have all exceeding expectations by varying degrees. Even if you count Balkman as a disappointment, that's still MAYBE half, which when you consider that all except the Hill and Gallo picks were later than the #17 we picked at this year, isn't too bad a strike rate.

[FutureKnicksGM]

Live video of him when he was chosen

http://www.twitvid.com/F4CRP

F'n Awesome

[COSBY]

Best Case: George Gervin
Worst Case: Clyde Drextler

[NoStatsGuy]

i was fine with brooks

we'll see next year in the POs, what shumpert can do when melo gets doubled...then we'll see if its the right or wrong pick

And then we can watch the Celtics pick our defense apart and with Rondo and Allen getting good looks at will.

Complain about D'antoni and the lack of defense, then once we draft a defensive player that you've never seen play, you complain

i have seen this guy play

he had favors on his team and couldnt do anything

stop it!

Favors is a bust... way overrated kid..

Or didnt you mean the Favors, playing with a borderline All-Star point guard averaging 7/5 ?!

come on pharmcat..

[cshoops]

I think he's more of a OJ Mayo type.

[Greenie]

A more athletic Joe Johnson...........

[blackbishop]

Truth is Shumpert probably wasn't a reach, he was a very good prospect who went under the radar for a bunch of teams. He's kind of an odd player as he has played PG throughout his career but as an NBA prospect fits the mold of more of a SG - one that can't shoot. He' has tremendous potential at the shooting guard position, and I would think that if he had been played as one he wouldn't have slipped nearly as far, and maybe even would have developed a jumpshot.

This guy with a developed jumpshot would have been an undisputed top 10 shooting guard prospect in this draft.

Also everyone on these boards needs to stop comparing him to PGs, he's not a point guard in the NBA, and for a best comparison ironically it's probably DeShawn Stevenson without a jumpshot (and the next Michael Jordan hype coming into the league).

Why do people keep saying he cannot play the point when that is the position that the knicks drafted him for. Obviously, they realized that TD is not a PG and by drafting a player like iman they can use douglass in the role he is best suited a short SG and have iman run the point.

What has he shown that says he cant run the point cause every vid i see is of him running the point?

[Daaaarryyl]

I was thinking the same thing yesterday and was going to post in in the Shumpert thread. I was trying to remember why Spree fell in the first place but nothing came to me. I remember the Knicks taking Hubert Davis over Spree and there being a story as to what scouts didn't like about Spree but I think it was only the J.

IIRC Michael Finley dropped from the lottery (projected top 10-12) because of questions on the mechanics on his jumper and fell all the way to the 20's where Dallas plucked him.

[Knicksfan20]

dude has some PG skills. He can handle the rock with both hands, he has pretty good vision, and he seems to be a pretty good passer too. Im exited to see him ball, he looks like he is comfortable with the ball in his left hand both finishing around the basket and dribbling.

Im going by video's, but im just saying. I didnt see him play much last season, nor was i looking out for him. When i watch certain teams i look hard at certain players. This kid is really growing on me fast and mroe and more each day.

[Thugger HBC]

I'm not understanding the "he can't run the point" part either.

[Li'l Penny]

Maybe Shump will choke MD.

[Knicksfan20]

Cool comparison.

But I'm not holding my hopes high on our rookies anymore. They mostly disappoint.

Outside of Hill, who was the last rookie to disappoint?

Cant call Hill a disapointment yet. He is only 2 seasons in. He didnt do to bad for himself in limited time

6/4 .7 bpg in only 15 mpg.

I think he will become a solid player, not a great player...but i can see him reaching 10-11 ppg 7 rpg 1 bpg type of player. I'll tell you what, wish he was a knick right now because he would be a good Center for us and our style. Thats unless Jordan shows he can be good, then their would be know point. im really praying Jordan comes in ready to start.