Would Jason Richardson be good for the Lakers

dirtymike · Post #1 » by **dirtymike** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:28 pm

Living in Orlando, I feel the hatred of the Lakers on an everyday basis...especially from my wife and son(they are both haters). But I also get the news about the Magic. J-Rich may become a free agent due to the front office's love of JJ Reddick(and money reasons). Do we have a chance to get him? And would he be a good fit? The guy was Orl's best player besides D12...he won and keep them in alot of games.

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fongie24 · Post #2 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:47 pm

His shooting would be greatly welcomed, but I see other teams being able to give him more money and playing time than we can. We don't have a lot of money to throw at anyone right now. Could you imagine a SECOND UNIT of Odom, Richardson, and Pau/Bynum?! Just dreaming..... haha

Post #3 » by **Slava** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:47 pm

I was actually thinking about him when the Vince Carter thread surface and he'd be quite a good fit but we will have some good competition from NY and Bulls who can both offer him starting roles.

Very good shooter and capable defender, still very athletic. If he intends to go ring hunting, we could be a good fit.

fongie24 · Post #4 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:55 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:I was actually thinking about him when the Vince Carter thread surface and he'd be quite a good fit but we will have some good competition from NY and Bulls who can both offer him starting roles.

Very good shooter and capable defender, still very athletic. If he intends to go ring hunting, we could be a good fit.

I think Carter is more likely to do it than J-Rich.. He has been more productive and will most likely be more sought after than Vince.

Either way, we don't have a lot of money to fix the few holes (PG, backup SG and C) we have. Would you risk throwing more money at one player and not getting/get worse players to fit those positions rather than try to spread out what we have to get more of a balance? I'd be on board with getting a wing player like J-Rich if we could convince him, but he isn't gonna fix our gaping defensive-two-headed hole that we call Fisher and Blake.

fongie24 · Post #5 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:56 pm

Unless, that is, if we make a trade. Which I don't see us doing.. I feel a trade would just fill one need while creating a new one.

Post #6 » by **Slava** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:18 pm

fongie24 wrote:Either way, we don't have a lot of money to fix the few holes (PG, backup SG and C) we have. Would you risk throwing more money at one player and not getting/get worse players to fit those positions rather than try to spread out what we have to get more of a balance? I'd be on board with getting a wing player like J-Rich if we could convince him, but he isn't gonna fix our gaping defensive-two-headed hole that we call Fisher and Blake.

Very good point. Wonder if we can complain about having a crappy bench with most of our money invested in 3 starters and having overpaid contracts to a couple others.

May be we just need to get used to it.

LApwnd · Post #7 » by **LApwnd** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:57 pm

I'll settle for Wince Carter if Pho doesn't pick up his contract next season and he accepts LLE or vet min. No way I would use any portion of MLE on him, need that true starting PG.

dirtymike · Post #8 » by **dirtymike** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:06 pm

fongie24 wrote:Unless, that is, if we make a trade. Which I don't see us doing.. I feel a trade would just fill one need while creating a new one.

great point...I also briefly forgot about the VC thread I read. He would be good too. And you guys are right...he would be more willing than Jrich. I just hate that Orl is gonna let him go...for nothing. He's a good kid and I will root for him nonetheless. But more if he had on a Lakers uni! Dude can shoot! Damn!

fongie24 · Post #9 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:40 pm

If Vince will come for such little money that's great, but I wouldn't use our MLE (given its still here) on him either. If we can win with the likes of Sasha and Shannon as our backup guards, that position can be easily filled with someone on the cheap. Our biggest concern is our lead PG position and that's where our money should go if we are gonna spend more money.

I say go out and get the best fit PG that's on the market and then work on finding a back-up 2, if Shannon doesn't opt in, and a backup C.

Jajwanda · Post #10 » by **Jajwanda** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:51 pm

You sign Richardson you pretty much are making him the primary backup SF as well as SG. I don't know mind that. Remember Fisher needs to play as well and right now Morris appears to be the only solution to having a guy like him in the back-court at SG. At big SG and backup SF I think Richardson would get 25 mpg.

fongie24 · Post #11 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:37 pm

Jajwanda wrote:You sign Richardson you pretty much are making him the primary backup SF as well as SG. I don't know mind that. Remember Fisher needs to play as well and right now Morris appears to be the only solution to having a guy like him in the back-court at SG. At big SG and backup SF I think Richardson would get 25 mpg.

given he would play the same position(s) as Kobe, could you imagine having those 2 flip flopping positions throughout the game?! How about a lineup of Fish/Blake, Richardson, Kobe, Odom, and Pau at certain times? I think that would/could cause some major issues with other teams with Kobe, Richardson, and Odom all being able to post up of penetrate on their man depending on the matchups.. yeah.. I'm liking the sound of that lol Starters: Bynum, Pau, Peace (still makes me lol), Kobe, and Blake(?) with our first subs being LO, J-Rich, and maybe Fish for a lineup of: Pau, LO, Kobe, J-Rich and Blake/Fish..

What do you guys think about that?

Jajwanda · Post #12 » by **Jajwanda** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:40 pm

I like it quite a bit and I don't think it's impossible that we get him. I hate the PG rotations though. If we have to start Blake so be it but what the hell do you do with Foster. He can't create crap off the dribble, so you're basically relying on:

PG- Morris
SG- Fisher

From the very beginning.

fongie24 · Post #13 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:49 pm

Jajwanda wrote:I like it quite a bit and I don't think it's impossible that we get him. I hate the PG rotations though. If we have to start Blake so be it but what the hell do you do with Foster. He can't create crap off the dribble, so you're basically relying on:

PG- Morris
SG- Fisher

From the very beginning.

Foster?

we would have:
Blake/Fish/Morris
Kobe/Richardson/Goudelock
Peace/(kobe/Richardson)/Ebanks
Pau/LO/Caracter
Bynum/(pau)/cheap back up

I don't like the PG rotation either but theres not many teams that could mess with that kind of roster.. Hopefully Blake lives more up to his potential this year.. Or we can make a smaller trade involving Blake or our TPE for a better PG.. Either are viable options IMO, I just don't know who we should target.

Jajwanda · Post #14 » by **Jajwanda** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:54 pm

Blake isn't who I'm worried about as much as Fisher. Blake can operate in the P and R because he's a good passer that can nail the shot if you go under the screen. Fisher can't do anything with the P and R usually. You need someone to create off the bench for him. J.R. Smith would be one such guy. Fisher is primarily going to be spotting up on the wing.

fongie24 · Post #15 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:04 pm

Jajwanda wrote:Blake isn't who I'm worried about as much as Fisher. Blake can operate in the P and R because he's a good passer that can nail the shot if you go under the screen. Fisher can't do anything with the P and R usually. You need someone to create off the bench for him. J.R. Smith would be one such guy. Fisher is primarily going to be spotting up on the wing.

Well we don't have enough money to get both JR and J-Rich.. Can JR play the PG role?? Hasn't he always played the 2 in DEN? Which one would you rather have, J-Rich or Smith?

I think JR could be a great pickup as well.. but I think, like J-Rich, there are a lot more teams that could give him more money and PT.. but I see convincing J-Rich to ring chase would be easier than JR given that he's more level headed and a little older.

Jajwanda · Post #16 » by **Jajwanda** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:32 pm

That I agree with, except J.R. can play the 2 and create while J-Rich can't do that. It's a complicated situation in some ways. Perhaps the best thing would be to improve the bench by adding Tayshaun Prince, playing Morris from the get-go, and playing Fisher there. Then you trade Barnes to another team for a 2nd rounder.

fongie24 · Post #17 » by **fongie24** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:47 pm

Prince is a FA this year, isn't he!? He would be nice too if we picked him up.. I like Barnes though, he was playing well before the injury.. I'd rather spend our money on a creator like JR or maybe a Jamal Crawford than pay to get someone with a similar skill set to someone we already have..

Jajwanda · Post #18 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:13 am

We don't have anyone of Prince's skill-set though and the point is to have him compliment the rookie. Jamal Crawford could work and I've heard the Lakers have interest. Terrible D back court with Fisher though.

laduane1 · Post #19 » by **laduane1** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:35 am

Sure if he came real cheap. But I do not see that. Unless the Lakers can dump salary like Walton and Brown. There is no money for a player like JR. I see the same for Vince Carter.

You would have to look at paying Kobe 89 million for the next 3 years, and then Pau getting over 18 million. There is no money to spend on good bench players. It will be that way till 2014 or 15.

The_Trade_Seer · Post #20 » by **The_Trade_Seer** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:58 am

I would love J-Rich, really like J.R. Smith and like Vince ... we could get one if we wanted ... I have the Bulls and Knicks each upgrading at SG BUT the Knicks will probably only want to offer a 1 year deal so they can sign either CP3 or D12 outright tghe next year ... so ... if we offer a 5 year deal we should be able to get one.

My guess is the Bulls get J-Rich, the Knicks get J.R. Smith and while we could get Vince ... he signs with ???