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What is Channing Frye's position?

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Post#41 » by MarJJMar » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:17 pm

Channing is a PF and that is the only position he should ever play.
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#42 » by nevetsov » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:33 pm

Los Soles wrote:The key is a quick, scrappy 4. The guy runs circles around the paint, sneaks in for offensive boards after all our threes, finishes Nash backdoor and alley-oops..


Isn't this what Hill and Childress bring from the 3 spot? Hill routinely spots up for corner threes and cuts baseline. That's essentially his offensive game now. Sure, he may not be able to throw down continuous alley oops anymore but he is effective nonetheless.

I expect Chilly to do this to a comparable level, or even better, once he learns how to hit the corner 3 and gets consistent game time.


Los Soles wrote:..runs the pick-and-roll with Nash, rebounds like crazy on defense, helps anchor the 2-3 zone (with Frye and Dudley along the bottom), guards stretch 4s..


And this is our centre. Gortat, Robin before his injury.. Maybe not the guarding of stretch 4 part but I think this is something that Frye can develop. Josh Smith sounds like the perfect fit here but if he were on the team then he would have to start with Frye, thus leaving Gortat to come off the bench. Can't see that happening.

Essentially we have 4's that play on the perimeter like 3's, and 3's that play on the baseline like 4's, albeit with range all the way out to the 3point line.
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#43 » by JohnVancouver » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:49 pm

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Los Soles wrote:The key is a quick, scrappy 4. The guy runs circles around the paint, sneaks in for offensive boards after all our threes, finishes Nash backdoor and alley-oops..


Isn't this what Hill and Childress bring from the 3 spot? Hill routinely spots up for corner threes and cuts baseline. That's essentially his offensive game now.


Essentially we have 4's that play on the perimeter like 3's, and 3's that play on the baseline like 4's, albeit with range all the way out to the 3point line.



which is why Chills has to get his 3 to the same consistency as Trix was - don't know if it can be done without tearing his 'form', if the word can even be used, completely apart and reteaching


but yeah - for 1/3rd the price he brings a lot of what Shawn brought.
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#44 » by Wannabe MEP » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:30 am

Yeah, I don't really know what to do with Childress. I like a lot about him, and I still think he can learn to knock down open threes. But what about this lineup:

Nash - Dudley - Childress - Markieff - Frye

Childress becomes the pick-and-roll partner/offensive rebounder and you still have four-out with four 3-point shooters. The beauty of him being the three is that slower bigs that we're playing against have an awful decision to make: stay in the paint and get torched by someone much quicker, or go chill on the perimeter with our shooters (can't help in the paint, because they can't recover quickly enough to stop a wide open three.

This is really the whole point of putting Frye at the 5, it creates crazy mismatches. This was the fundamental reason for the success of the 2010 2nd unit: Dudley-Lou-Frye could defend anyone, and despite the perception of inferior offense, Frye at the 5 and quickness at the 4 made us incredibly awkward to defend.
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#45 » by pidi » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:40 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Lawal can be Lou 2.0 imo if he comes back healthy.


whys everyone so high on lawal? this guy proved nothing to me, and i agree with them who said he should be the first big off the bench.. and trade lopez.. :D
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#46 » by JohnVancouver » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:20 pm

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lilfishi22 wrote:Lawal can be Lou 2.0 imo if he comes back healthy.


whys everyone so high on lawal? this guy proved nothing to me, and i agree with them who said he should be the first big off the bench.. and trade lopez.. :D


He was overshadowed by Favours his last year in college but put up the same numbers (Favours will admittedly be a better NBA player but Lawal is no slouch), relishes being in the paint and mixing it up, high character/high energy, great work ethic, takes pride in playing defense and rebounding, embraces his role

all adds up to a Lou-type guy, albeit stronger and a better offensive player, though not by a whole lot. he will push Markieff hard in practice. Story is that he's coming back strong from the ACL surgery, has been working fulltime rehabbing in PHX.

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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#47 » by pidi » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:48 pm

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pidi wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Lawal can be Lou 2.0 imo if he comes back healthy.


whys everyone so high on lawal? this guy proved nothing to me, and i agree with them who said he should be the first big off the bench.. and trade lopez.. :D


He was overshadowed by Favours his last year in college but put up the same numbers (Favours will admittedly be a better NBA player but Lawal is no slouch), relishes being in the paint and mixing it up, high character/high energy, great work ethic, takes pride in playing defense and rebounding, embraces his role

all adds up to a Lou-type guy, albeit stronger and a better offensive player, though not by a whole lot. he will push Markieff hard in practice. Story is that he's coming back strong from the ACL surgery, has been working fulltime rehabbing in PHX.

Projected mid-late 1st round at one time but fell to us in the second.


so let´s hope that he comes back strong and can prove to be a good player-- realy looking forward.
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#48 » by MarJJMar » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:06 am

The overrating of Lawal is hilarious. Dude was a 2nd round pick, doesn't have great size, had an "ok" summer league, did nothing in pre-season or NBDL games and then blew out his knees.

That guy is so far away from being even just a scrub role player in the NBA...
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#49 » by Frank Lee » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:20 pm

Every team needs a couple of minimum deal practice players. That is what LawaL is, until he proves otherwise. Much like LouA.

2 or 3 get a chance every yr, for every team... very few make it. We were lucky with Amundson. We'll see with Lawal. He certainly is at least a scrub :lol: but no high hopes here.

Now... Mt Siler on the other hand...?
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#50 » by SUN » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:52 pm

MarJJMar wrote:The overrating of Lawal is hilarious. Dude was a 2nd round pick, doesn't have great size, had an "ok" summer league, did nothing in pre-season or NBDL games and then blew out his knees.

That guy is so far away from being even just a scrub role player in the NBA...

You're pretty depressing, dude.
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#51 » by JohnVancouver » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:32 pm

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MarJJMar wrote:The overrating of Lawal is hilarious. Dude was a 2nd round pick, doesn't have great size, had an "ok" summer league, did nothing in pre-season or NBDL games and then blew out his knees.

That guy is so far away from being even just a scrub role player in the NBA...

You're pretty depressing, dude.


Actually he impressed the hell out of the coaching staff and they reckoned he would bring everything Lou had given us, and more. They also thought highly of matt janning and until RoLo was not available, they planned on keeping him. But then we had to sign barron and matt was SOL.

Funny how thatd fits us - SSOl turns to SOL in only a few short years
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Re: What is Channing Frye's position? 

Post#52 » by SUN » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:04 pm

That's not what depress means..
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