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Post#61 » by larry14r » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:36 pm

Jajwanda wrote:I wouldn't mind Vince because at least you have a legitimate player behind Kobe-Artest now.

There's no comparison between a rookie/Fisher and Vince Carter. Carter off the bench will be able to play against some lousy ass competition and really rack up some nice stats. Count me in. Ditch Barnes after that.


Count me out because 1. Barnes anit going anywhere, and 2. no more old players because we need to get younger and faster I mean why the hell do you think we lost to Dallas for.
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Post#62 » by larry14r » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:38 pm

H00PDREAMS wrote:Barron Davis would shape up to be a Laker, that is no doubt. Hometown hero on his fave team as a kid are you kidding me? Dude would be solid.


No that dude is done, and so is VC.
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Post#63 » by Jajwanda » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:13 pm

We lost to Dallas because we can't shoot, didn't rotate, and the offense was run poorly.

Barnes can be traded with little trouble and he's not a spring-chicken either. If you want to get younger play Ebanks.
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Post#64 » by JustAwesome » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:49 pm

There's a lot of playoff teams that would love to add a guy like Barnes to their bench.
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Post#65 » by EnigmaticProblem » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:27 am

So, we're really comparing Vince Carter to Shannon Brown, eh? So, if we're comparing, it'd be interesting to note that Vince Carter's PER was higher than Shannon Brown's last year. A majority of Vince's stats took a hit, after they shipped him to Phoenix-- That can easily be attributed to his major lack of interest. Nonetheless, Vince Carter's TS% of .528 and eFG% of .502 were higher than Shannon's .518 (TS%) and .482(eFG%); the disparity in eFG% in especially telling. His TRB% trumps Shannon's, as well; subsequently, his AST% was significantly higher than Shannon's, despite the fact that it dropped to 9.6%, whilst in Phoenix (lack of motivation/Steve Nash was the primary play-maker). I think the biggest indicator of lack of motivation is the drop in FTA/GAME; there's a significant drop in FTA/GAME from the second he landed in Phoenix, in comparison to Orlando. Seriously. . . This could be done, all day.

Moreover, the only reason his TS% seems lower (this year) is his lack of FTA/GAME. Last year, Vince Carter's TS% paralleled Kobe Bryant's, and LeBron James'. This year, while he was in Orlando, it was higher than both the aforementioned players'. Oh, wait, that can't be right, 'cause apparently, he forgot how to score. lololololololololol.. Once again, I could reference lack of motivation, but I'm sure some snide, pseudo-witty remark awaits. No one likes playing with substandard talent, though. . .

As for some absurd statistics claiming 59% of Vince Carter's baskets in Phoenix being assisted, and subsequently being contrasted with 36% for Kobe Bryant. . . I say. . . Use some basic deduction, hombre. The simplest form of deduction could've solved this riddle, for you. Kobe Bryant had the highest USG in the league (35.1%), this year; concurrently, Steve Nash's AST% this year was the highest in the league, and of his career (53.1%). So, Kobe Bryant dominates the ball, for the Lakers, which would explain why a majority of his baskets don't result in assists, for his teammates. Steve Nash dominates the ball, for the Suns-- And I mean DOMINATES-- Which would explain why his AST% is so absurdly high; subsequently, it derives your aforementioned Vince Carter statistic. Steve Nash is bound to drop a couple dimes to Vince Carter, eventually, no? lol..

Doormatt wrote:Using YouTube videos to prove how clutch a player is pretty..... Ummm.... Well it's not very smart. Why don't you post Carter's actual clutch stats instead of clips that mean nothing.

You sort of, just, fell into that one, didn't you? It's okay, hombre-- It happens. As of the 2008-2009 season (from the 2003-2004 season), Vince Carter was second in game winning shot opportunities, hitting 16-51. To contrast, Kobe Bryant was 14-56, in the same period of time. Now, Kobe Bryant is taking that last shot for me. . . Every. . . Single. . . Time. However, to deny that Vince Carter has a certain clutch gene is idiocy. What's even funnier is. . . Vince Carter's heroics prior to the aforementioned seasons are. . . Forgotten. In fact, up until he clanked that game winner against the 76ers (in the playoffs, 95 years ago), I'd argue he was the most clutch player, in the league.

Anywho, my sabbatical from studying has been far too lengthy. Toodles, hombres.

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