Official Trade Thread XVII: 6/29/11 - 1/20 /12

[nate33]

Post all trade thoughts here.

[rockymac52]

Posted a few possible trades in an effort to get another 2012 1st round lotto pick in the last trade thread, but it was on page 99 so not many people saw it so I'm reposting.

Blatche for New Jersey 1st round pick
Blatche for Indiana 1st round pick + James Posey
Blatche for New Orleans 1st round pick
McGee for Houston 1st round pick + New York 1st round pick
McGee for Phoenix 1st round pick + Robin Lopez
Blatche for Phoenix 1st round pick

Not sure how realistic any or all of those are, but you can read more about my reasoning (in depth) on pages 98 and 99 in the old trade thread. 2012 draft is stacked, let's get ourselves another lotto pick!

[Zonkerbl]

Blatche for a bottle of anything. And a glazed doughnut. To go.

[LyricalRico]

^ Of the Blatche deals, the Indy trade is my favorite and one we were discussing pre-draft. But if we were to do it now, I'd like it even more since we'd be getting a 2012 pick. I'd also be interested in Blatche to NOH for Anderson+first. The Blatche for the PHX first deal might end up being the most attractive since that's likely to be a lottery pick.

I don't have any interest in any of the McGee trade ideas, though.

[Severn Hoos]

Orlando traded up to the top of the 2nd round to draft Justin Harper, a 6'10 Forward who loks to have range out to the 3-point line. Of course, they already have a 6'10 PF with 3-point range in Ryan Anderson. I'd love to see Harper blow up and make Orlando feel Anderson is expendable.

Anderson will be a FA next summer (RFA under the current CBA, with a $3.2M QO). Without knowing the implications of the CBA, it could be a risk - and would potentially eat into the cap space the Wiz are trying to preserve. But Anderson is the type of player I definitely think the team should be targeting one way or another. Any deal that sends out Blatche and brings back Anderson (potentially with intermediate steps in between) would be an ideal scenario, IMO.

[Illuminaire]

You know who desperately needs talent at the center position? Boston.


We could swap Blatche for Jermaine, and take an unprotected 2014 lotto pick for our troubles. They get another year or two of contending, we get a great pick when they fall apart from old age.

[LyricalRico]

You know who desperately needs talent at the center position? Boston.


We could swap Blatche for Jermaine, and take an unprotected 2014 lotto pick for our troubles. They get another year or two of contending, we get a great pick when they fall apart from old age.

And as an added bonus, JO would likely rather retire than play for us. So we'd get cap savings too!

Or, we could flip JO to a team hoping to make a run that needed a vet big. Would they deal him within the East?

Celtics trade: JO
Celtics receive: Blatche

Wizards trade: Blatche
Wizards receive: Najera, future CHA first

Bobcats trade: Najera, Diaw, Augustin, and future first
Bobcats receive: Billups

Knicks trade: Billups
Knicks receive: JO, Diaw, and Augustin

Not sure that Boston would help a team in their own division, but that seems to work for everyone involved (assuming that the C's believe that their locker room can reform Blatche).

[Illuminaire]

I'd feel better if we were getting a pick likely to be top-10. I don't trust Charlotte not to tread water around the late lottery/8th seed.

Maybe if it's for next draft and Charlotte keeps sending out vets. Then it should be an excellent pick.

[rockymac52]

If it's a 2012 1st rounder then that's a great trade. But I don't know why the Bobcats would even consider that trade.

Whether they're treading water or actually rebuilding for once, I don't think they'll be keen on giving up a 1st round pick THAT easily. Najera and Diaw only have 1 year left, they're not exactly killing their teams by being there. Even if Walker is their future PG now, Augustin is still solid. It just seems like an awful lot to give up just to get an aging Chauncey Billups.

No chance.

[dukeknicksirish]

Any trade that involves Blatche for a first round pick would help the Wizards greatly....

Select Jared Sullinger, then run with:

5.McGee
4.Sullinger/Lewis
3.Vessly/Singleton
2.Crawford
1.Wall/Mack

[Hoopalotta]

If it's a 2012 1st rounder then that's a great trade. But I don't know why the Bobcats would even consider that trade.

Whether they're treading water or actually rebuilding for once, I don't think they'll be keen on giving up a 1st round pick THAT easily. Najera and Diaw only have 1 year left, they're not exactly killing their teams by being there. Even if Walker is their future PG now, Augustin is still solid. It just seems like an awful lot to give up just to get an aging Chauncey Billups.

No chance.

Exactly. Billups is less useful to them than Augustin and they didn't hire Rich Cho's whole "I'm wearing OKC Underoos" schtick to start zipping lottery picks off for no tangible gain.

Blatche for Jermaine would be more likely, though not really probable (I'm sure KG's a big Dray fan). They do have a Clippers pick they got in the Perkins trade. *breath holding commenced in expectation of an impending deal*

[dlts20]

so much for everyone wanting to trade Dray for Hickson straight up or us even giving up more. Cavs thought so highly of him that they traded him for a SF who shoots 41% and a "protected" 1st. With that being said, I think the Cavs are idiots
-

[dangermouse]

NOH: David West signs elsewhere, Carl Landry signs elsewhere.

How about Dray to a desperate NOH for the Stojakovic trade exception and an unprotected 1st rounder. Maybe we can squeeze more out of them?

We get instant cap savings, its risky because Paul could lead them to the playoffs again even without West. I think in this case they are a low seed though, and we could end up with a pick around #16-#18 again in what should be a deep draft. Or do we take a 2013 pick?

We get rid of Blatche to further change the team culture and tank another year to find his replacement, giving Book, Lewis and Vesely a run at PF. Ted pockets the savings and uses the money to replace that god awful primary logo.

PHX also looks like a good target, and he can be traded for the Stoudemire exception and their 1st, which could very well be a late lotto again. Blatche could be sold to them as being a good fit next to Gortat, and he gives Nash a final shot at the playoffs again. All it would take would be a Nash injury and the lotto pick could be even higher. I know the guy keeps his body in peak condition but what is he now, 40 years old? That back of his isnt going to be able to keep up with the NBA schedule much longer.

[Illuminaire]

I'd love to pry an unprotected first from NOH. I don't think Paul will push himself as hard this season - he's darned close to freedom, no reason to risk injury for a fail team that doesn't even have a real owner.

I'd put the odds of that being a lotto pick at 75-80%.

[dangermouse]

Yeah thats my feeling too, West leaving could be a catalyst for collapse. Its wether EG can hustle NOH to make the trade. Has an NBA team been league managed for an extended period before? What would the chances of any trade happening be? Though if Landry goes too they will be completely starved at PF and will need to make a trade just to get someone.

[verbal8]

I'd love to pry an unprotected first from NOH. I don't think Paul will push himself as hard this season - he's darned close to freedom, no reason to risk injury for a fail team that doesn't even have a real owner.

I'd put the odds of that being a lotto pick at 75-80%.

I think it will hard to get NOH to deal an unprotected 1st round pick. I think dealing a 1st round pick and adding a salary obligation would hurt the value of the Hornets.

[queridiculo]

As much as I can't stand Blatche, he's the closest to a post player we have and I don't really see the point of jettisoning him at this point, especially not for yet another draft pick when 85% of our roster is made up of players with less than 3 years of professional experience.

[rockymac52]

I proposed a Blatche for NOH 1st recently, and I like the idea of it still, although I've grown skeptical of whether an NBA owned franchise would make a trade like this. Even with a gaping hole at the 4, they're just adding salary that doesn't NEED to be added. Plus as much as they want to hope that Paul stays, they have to know that the odds are he's leaving, in which case they'll be wanting that draft pick.

If they had a real owner who was desperate to keep Paul in NOH, then yes, I could see this happening, as an easy way to add a quality player with some upside for a small price. But I still think Paul would leave, because Blatche just isn't that great. It's like the Cavs adding Jamison because they're desperate to give LeBron better teammates, and that's all they can get, but it's a last ditch effort that they probably have to make.

[LyricalRico]

3-way to balance our roster:

Wizards trade: Lewis, Blatche, and 2013 first
Wizards receive: Boozer and Charlie Bell

Bulls trade: Boozer, Deng, and Brewer
Bulls receive: Lewis, Blatche, Ellis, and WAS 2013 first

Warriors trade: Ellis and Bell
Warriors receive: Deng and Brewer

Lineup:

McGee/Seraphin
Boozer/Booker
Vesely/Singleton
Young/Crawford
Wall/Mack/Bell

[7-Day Dray]

3-way to balance our roster:

Wizards trade: Lewis, Blatche, and 2013 first
Wizards receive: Boozer and Charlie Bell

Bulls trade: Boozer, Deng, and Brewer
Bulls receive: Lewis, Blatche, Ellis, and WAS 2013 first

Warriors trade: Ellis and Bell
Warriors receive: Deng and Brewer

Lineup:

McGee/Seraphin
Boozer/Booker
Vesely/Singleton
Young/Crawford
Wall/Mack/Bell